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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by LordsReform (talk | contribs) at 12:15, 3 October 2006. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

This is not a private article. It is open to anyone willing to fill out the facts to come and help. Remember however it is a difficult subject and we've had problems because it started one sided. I'm hoping to take the development out of the gaze of the deletionists by setting up a new account: LordsReform, where we can put articles until they are developed. (But I make no promises because I've been surprised before!)

There is more stuff under development to see it look at: User:LordsReform Or go to the docs: Mike 12:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

General Discussion

I have produced a new introduction and a section on pre-1997 reforms. The modern material still needs some work, to give more information about the House of Lords Act 1999 and the subsequent proposals for further reforms. --Gary J 19:15, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A vast improvement! Thanks. I've taken the liberty of formatting it a bit to make it a bit more readable - I hope you don't mind.

I've also started to add some sub pages so that more can be written on each of the options.

I am impressed with how much this article has been improved since I worked on it. That is the benefit of Wikipedia at its best. The product of several people is better than any of them would be likely to do alone. --Gary J 18:08, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Sub pages

I've added Various links and in some cases the actual pages. I would appreciaate some feedback on this idea.Mowgli++ 17:13, 1 October 2006 (UTC) I've taken the hint (and read policy on sub pages which someone could have told me about!) and have created one page on proposals combing all the proposals on one page.[reply]

Lords Reform - Roles

I took this out of the main article as there are quite a few different ideas on the roles of the lors/commons (the consequence of an unwritten constitution?)

Lords Reform - Aims

I'm not sure about the name! There are very different ideas expressed in the many proposal about this issue. In particular there have been quite a few proposals for allotment/sortition. I don't think the background information would be suitable to the main article, but it really needs to go somewhere for those who haven't come across sortition or the many alternavtive views of democracy + the problem of applying it to an upper chamber.Mike 17:13, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lords Reform - History

Great section!Mowgli++ 17:13, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is a section I was originally responsible for drafting. I am in the proceess of adapting it, so it can stand alone as an article. --Gary J 22:11, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lords Reform - Proposals

Created to amalgamate the detail information on the range of proposals that have been offered by government, Mps, Lords, public and detailed in consultation papers, Hansard, newspaper, websites. Mike 10:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sections

Introduction paragraph(s)

  • I have a strong feeling that our American colleagues really don't appreciate the way Lords reform has become a subject in its own right deserving a place in Wikipedia. I have tried to strength the introduction to make it sound more encycolpedic whilst at the same time clearly defining the scope of this article.Mike 08:34, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is good practice to have an introduction summarising what an article is about. However the use of the heading 'Introduction' is not advisable. If you have no heading the introductory material will go before the contents box. If you look at other articles you will see that is how introductions are normally handled. I believe there is a Wikipedia policy favouring such an approach. --Gary J 22:18, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Good point LordsReform 12:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposals

  • It would be useful to have some other input to this section. I've laid it out with my own ideas, not because that is what should be there but because I haven't anything else to put there! Mike 14:01, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Judicial role

This does still exist, but has already been reformed. A very little noticed statute called the Constitutional Reform Act 2005 transfers the judicial powers of the House of Lords to a new Supreme Court of the United Kingdom. That reform will be brought into force when the Supreme Court has a suitably grand court building available (which is expected to be in 2009) and the era of the Law Lords will then end. --Gary J 02:18, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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