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Where is the ORIGINAL rap+metal?

Where the f**k is the reference to Mike Patton and Faith No More???? These guys really started the whole Rap+Metal thing back in the late 1980s. ok i'm blind. However I see no reference to Anthrax arguably the first rap meets metal tune was done by them. Alkivar 04:21, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)


Isn't Zeromancer industrial? -- Dysfunktion

Are 28 Days really a "notable nu metal band"? -- Sam

When did Skid Row ever "exhibit techno influences"? -- leigh

Update: unless somebody shows me some evidence, I'm taking Skid Row out of the article. I'm reasonably familiar with their work (I have both Subhuman Race and Slave to the Grind) and I've never heard "techno influences" in it.

Also, somebody who knows more than me about Ministry, Fear Factory, and other industrial bands should edit this to include the connections between industrial and nu-metal, which have so far not been mentioned at all. leigh 05:45, Dec 21, 2003 (UTC)

Is this a joke?

Who the hell wrote this ridiculous article? Numetal isn't metal, it's hard rock with a commercially profitable name. This person should turn off the radio, turn off MTV, grow back some brain cells they've lost, and put a career of journalism out of their mind. Holy ****, I 've never laughed this hard at anything in my life.

Lots of people contributed to the article. I haven't got a clue what is nu metal and what is auld metal myself so can't tell if you are right or they are.

But if you are confident you know what your talking about then please feel free to edit and improve the article yourself. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 16:37, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Nu-"metal" is not metal.. In fact nobody should write it the way you wrote it in the article because nu and metal are words that cannot be connected. Metal is a reaction agaisnt commercializing music while nu is exactly the opposite. People who listen to that music are not metallers. Metallers have true personalities. People who listen to nu-shit are just posers who want to show off from the music they hear. That's pathetic and so not-metal..


There is so much wrong with this article. I tried fixing it, but the changes I made just got reverted again. If I try again will the same thing happen? Vim Fuego

I can't tell who reverted your edits from the article history, but I imagine it was because of NPOV, a policy that we maintain very strictly at Wikipedia. The opinion that nu metal is not a form of heavy metal and that nu metal guitarists are less skilled than other guitarists needs to be backed up by those who believe it. Tuf-Kat 05:04, May 7, 2004 (UTC)

I've removed Tool (band) because though they may have influenced nu-metal (this is mentioned at the top of the page), they really aren't nu-metal themselves. I've heard "alternative," "hard rock," "prog rock," and "psychedelic" thrown together in the attempt, though.

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Is Evanescence really numetal? It sounds to me more like Rock or even Pop/Rock

Well, some people have criticized Evanescence for being "Linkin Park with a female singer" so I guess that's where the idea came from.

Nu Metal started with bands like Prong and Voivod

This music is cool but obviously not all of it, as the same with Metal. It's never going to be as listen-able as metal because that is the nature of the beast being it a sub-genre, in a sense. Here's my little article on this: Nu-metal's or poo-metal’s roots -lie- in the ashes of bands like Voivod and Prong in 1990. They took strong elements from Heavy Metal and expounded and expanded on them with synthasized and alternative grooves as well as cool off-beat art. This created a larger and more mainstream market for a Heavy-Metal type music because of its liquid nature. Plus, it was fun as a headbanger to get more liquidy or psychedelic and step out of the riff box for a while to try something different. You might even want to call this liquid metal. Sounds cool, I'll start a page just for the hell of it. The sound is sometimes watered down but ultimately allowing for more creativity in the genre through more experimentation. More bands could make a living off of Metal without having to sound like the next Megedeth obsessing about note structures at high speeds and still getting a metallic sound. It’s nice to go off the norm once in a while. --User:24.13.183.57


"starting a page just for the hell of it" is not what Wikipedia is about. Liquid metal, since you seem to have invented the term yourself, is a vanity page and I've marked it for deletion. leigh 01:14, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)