Talk:Belinda Stronach
Guys, does anyone else realize that she isn't the leader of the Conservative Party? At least not yet, she's running to be the leader. What were you guys thinking? Also, she isn't a prominent Canadian politician, no one in politics even knew who she was until last week. [That's fixed now.]
- Most people realized it before you I'm sure. dave 15:27, 27 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- So what's your point? At least I pointed it out... Shawn
- I was just confused by your "What were you guys thinking?" question. dave 21:29, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Anyone have a public domain picture of her that we can put in the article? All the ones at belinda.ca are copyrighted. dave 22:11, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- Would not the photo in the press section ([1]) have to be copyright-free? -- stewacide 08:16, 23 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Who is the first most powerful woman in business? Carly Fiorina?-戴眩sv
Fiorina is the most powerful woman in American business. Here's what Fortune says about the most powerful women in international business, outside the U.S:
- Marjorie Scardino, CEO of Britain's Pearson, was ranked the number one woman in international business, followed by Belinda Stronach, CEO and president of Canada's Magna International, Anne Lauvergeon, executive chairman of France's Areva, and Patricia Barbizet, chief executive of France's Artemis. Sunray 06:24, 2004 Jan 24 (UTC)
- Although I would'nt generally call Fortune a source, its just a typical who's who list, so I suppose that its nothing to take issue with. ;) -戴眩sv 14:21, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- The Fortune 500, not a source? I'm shocked! Sunray 08:05, 2004 Jan 27 (UTC)
Who removed the picture? dave 21:45, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- It was a wikipedia wide problem. I uploaded it again. dave 19:49, 29 Jan 2004 (UTC)
A Social Democrat???
User 24.222.32.250 repeatedly claims that Ms. Stronach is a social democrat. I'm asking for proof of that. She is, after all, a member of the Conservative Party. In Canada, members of the Convervative Party are generally not referred to as "social democrats." It is an absurd notion. Despite the fact that she supports union and has other progressive ideas, she is not, by definition, a social democrat. If she were to cross the floor of the House and join the NDP, that would be evidence that she was a social democrat. I've tried a couple of alternate wordings (e.g. "her views are to the left of many in the Conservative Party"), but 24.222.32.250 continually reverts my edits. I'm hereby asking 24.222.32.250 to discuss this. Sunray 07:56, 2004 Dec 5 (UTC)
Sunray in the conservative caucus ther is 98 conservative MP's (Red and Blue) and 1 Social Democrat MP (Belinda Stronach) and some people do view her as a social democrat and if she did won the leadership she will put the party to the center to bring in center-right and center-left ideas but later on she will bring the party to the center-left (a.k.a. social democracy) but it failed because she did not win the leadership. She should join the NDP because she should not trust Stephen Harper and the Conservative caucus. She should trust Jack Layton and the NDP caucus. I'm an NDPer my self. Keep an eye on the news media Sunray Belinda Stronach is going to walk cross the floor to the NDP at any time. Belinda is not happy with the Conservatives.- michaelm
- Thanks for your response, michaelm. It is clear that you think that Ms. Stronach is a social democrat. I would like to see a record that someone else thinks this and has documented it in print (i.e., evidence). Then, I'm suggesting one further step: That there be some rational argument for stating this (i.e., proof). You say "people do view her as a social democrat." Who has this view? She may not be happy with the conservatives, but as long as she remains in that party, neither she nor any of her colleagues in parliament would be likely to refer to her as a social democrat. So there would have to be some fairly strong documentation (e.g. of a credible political scientist arguing that she is, in fact a social democrat). Meanwhile, the statement that she is "to the left of many in the conservative party" covers what you are saying, without making an un-encyclopedic leap into the speculative. Sunray 06:15, 2004 Dec 6 (UTC)
- I would like to see some evidence of this as well. Although I can't comment on Belinda's "happiness" in the Conservative caucus, I did get the impression during the leadership run that she was a definite economic conservative - i.e. in favour of big business, across the board tax cuts, "grow the economic pie" economics, etc. She's certainly to the left of most (if not, yes, all) of the Conservative caucus on social issues (abortion, SSM, etc.) but no social democrat would agree with the aforementioned economic philosophies. (These policies imply more limited social advocacy, something Social Democrats disagree with.) It also should be noted that one can still be for the existence of a union / in favour of job rights and a conservative, i.e. one doesn't have to believe all unions/worker rights should be abolished to be a conservative. I would like to see sources on Belinda's union views. -- Matty j 22:05, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)