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December

December 7

  • Nick Sackiewicz written in sprawling feature article style with tons of links -- more red ones than blue ones. -- Antaeus Feldspar 02:20, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Nonlinear Coulomn field. (yes, the period is in the title - I'd move it but I don't know whether this is even spelled correctly) - lots and lots of fearsome-looking math equations that I don't understand, and very little explanatory text. Not linked to from anywhere, so no clues there either. Bryan 01:02, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
It isn't spelt correctly. We have an identical article at the (correct) Nonlinear columb field. One of them should go. [[User:Grutness|Grutness talk ]] 03:19, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Stagism - I have no idea what this is trying to say. Katefan0 00:12, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)
    • It's a copyvio from here. It seems to be a minor component of Marxism and may be worth discussing there. -- Antaeus Feldspar 02:26, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • El Diablos - A gang in Grand Theft Auto 3. Gangs aren't listed in the main article, but I don't think there needs to be a separate entry for it. Either merge or VfD? Katefan0 21:40, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)
  • Human rights in Turkey - Came across this page completely zeroed out by [[1]] who seems to be doing lots of editing on various articles on Turkey. Reviewed his other changes, but they've all been reverted. Reverted this one to the old article but it needs some looking-at. Katefan0 21:10, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)
  • Lateran Accords should be merged with/redirected to Lateran Treaties: the former is slightly NPOV. Jackiespeel 19:29, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Cyber (comics) was wikify but I think it is more that that - Drstuey 12:08, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Russell Maughan formatting structure - [[User:Cohesion|cohesion ☎]] 09:37, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)
  • Dynamite Repeated information. Factual, but needs structure.
Restructured. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 10:48, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)
  • Pagans MC I have heard of these folks and I think they're notable but the write-up is a personal essay, albeit one with some factual information content. -- Antaeus Feldspar 06:41, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Bonus Stage needs to be wikified and a little bit NPOV-ed. [[User:Livajo|力伟|☺]] 05:41, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
It does have a very entertaining and original dab link, though! [[User:Grutness|Grutness talk ]]

December 6

For that kind of wholesale expansion, maybe it should also be listed on attention? Katefan0 19:48, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)
His name is universally transliterated as Shiing-shen Chern, not the other way. He's written several books in English, and that's how he spells it there. -- Walt Pohl 04:25, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

December 5

  • Viking (was "corrected" by someone with a less than complete grasp of English. begins with "A Viking was a male member" at the moment :o) See also Viking Age below (Dec 2). [[User:Dbachmann|dab (T) ]] 08:34, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
    • Took a crack at some cleaning grammar, spelling, punctuation etc. Someone with knowledge of the subject should review to make sure I didn't precis something into an inaccuracy. Katefan0 20:39, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)
  • C. Ellen Connally political figure of some sort of significance but what that significance is exactly isn't made clear. Hugely POV; ends by stating that the concession by John Kerry had "no legal standing". -- Antaeus Feldspar 04:37, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Suspected Republican Celebrities large text dump, possible copyvio-, needs wikification--nixie 02:40, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
    • Looks like this has been listed on VfD. Katefan0 20:44, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)
  • Physical event - This might belong on VfD, unless someone can turn it into a valid stub. ike9898 01:51, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)
    • Looks like this has been listed on VfD. Katefan0 20:44, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)
  • Sensorineural hearing loss - The information is all there, but I'm sorry for how aesthetically offensive it is.. Tarek 01:18, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Seheult - A family of architects. Are any of them particularly famous? [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk, automation script)]] 00:44, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)
  • Childhood autism - my eyes are burning. Needs formatting (LOTS formatting), dePOVing, actual content...egads. It's a research paper. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality/talk]] 23:08, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)
    • The author is removing the clean up notice--nixie 00:34, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Starship Troopers (board game) -- wikification and a better style required -- towo 22:54, 2004 Dec 5 (UTC)
  • Transient receptor potential - unwikified, orphaned, unknown context (apparently biochemistry, but I'm not sure)... help! --rbrwr± 21:40, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Unidev - very thin article about a Brazilian tech website. Low traffic rating according to Alexa [2] so a possible delete. --rbrwr± 19:40, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Olivia Olson - It might belong on vfd, but we might be able to get an npov stum out of it. --Bart133 18:48, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Here's the stub, but I'd like to know more about her awards and possible contract offers. I remember hearing she was American on the DVD. Can anyone confirm any of this? [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 22:34, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)
possibly redirect it to bocce - it looks as though it's the same game, or very close. dramatic 04:52, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Cleaned up and removed tag. Katefan0 19:02, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)

December 4

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December 3

  • The Mississauga Blob - Entry about a flaming rock that fell on a Canadian family's picnic table. Style is too breezy, slightly POV, also is this notable? Katefan0 18:29, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)
I find such an event odd enough to warrant an article. If there's something verifiable to say about it that is... [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 22:47, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
A google search shows only this article. I question its veracity, since no online sources are provided. It should probably go to VfD. Denni☯ 18:11, 2004 Dec 5 (UTC)
has been listed on VfD - clearly verified, but notable? - Drstuey 12:50, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Saxony - littered with code, not sure what's what. Mashford 17:16, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Kenneth Rexroth - dePOV - reads like an essay. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality/talk]] 15:11, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)
  • Atris : needs wikifying - almost no content - perhaps to be merged in one of the Star Wars articles. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality/talk]]
    • redirected but nothing worth merging - Drstuey 13:03, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

December 2

December 1

  • UN Security Council Resolution 497 - wikisource, or copyvio? Either way the text of the resolution is not the same as an encyclopaedia article about the resolution. --rbrwr± 22:46, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Air ioniser - POV, doesn't note toxicity issues with ozone, nor the tendency of that substance to aggravate asthma. Also, is "ioniser" a valid Commonwealth spelling, or a misspelling? Pakaran (ark a pan) 19:44, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
    • 'Ioniser' seems okay to a Brit. Berek 11:31, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
    • ...and to a Kiwi [[User:Grutness|Grutness talk ]] 11:45, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Schistosoma seems to contain a lot of redundant info about flatworms in general, and is formatted awkwardly. Noser 18:10, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Shahjahanpur needs formating and linking -- Chris 73 Talk 15:18, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)
    • made some corrections. Weak English and odd formatting need fixes. Some fact-checking and fill info are also needed. Denni☯
      • text is now corrected, but fact checking and additional info are needed. Denni☯ 01:10, 2004 Dec 7 (UTC)
  • Gormenghast needs formatting, and an expert to make additions and fill in all the red links. Looks very bad at the moment.
  • NIPS - Looks like a valid topic (though should be moved), but seems very POV. Cool Hand Luke 06:45, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • California secessionists - the subject is legitimate but the content is too vague and maybe POV. Alfy 06:40, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Shallow donor - something about semiconductors, but needs context, wikify. Cdc 06:01, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Serafino Dubois - an Italian chess player. Needs wikify, editing of chatty, sometimes POV style. Cdc 05:50, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Sandia Base - vague unverified stuff about a secret base in Nevada, but Google is telling me Sandia Base is a not-very-secret part of Sandia National Labs - I dunno, but I'm sure someone out there knows this stuff... Cdc 05:36, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Koeksuster - Looks like a South African delicacy. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk, automation script)]] 05:21, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)
Turned into formatted and tagged substub. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 12:41, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)
Copyvio- listed as such--nixie 01:30, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

November

November 30

November 29

  • Yitzhak Rabin - I am concerned about accuracy and POV. Someone with experience should take a look at this.
  • Andaz apna apna - A film in India. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 05:51, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
  • Alejandra Guzmán - Mexican singer needs a neutral tone, particularly at the end. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 05:50, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
  • Geschiebekunde - Huh? [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 04:40, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
    • I get "deposit" and "pushing and shoving" in machine translations. Can be merged into tectonics or geology as soon as someone can find a proper translation. Maybe VfD? [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 10:46, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
    • Looks like a synonym for moraine, but that's just a guess. "Discolcated" is a good word, though. [[User:Grutness|Grutness talk ]]
    • According to my German dictionary, this could be translated as : glacial detritus morainic debris, moraine (glacial erratic boulders) See [3]]. JoJan 20:02, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Just cleaned up and added some extra info. Do we want to keep it here or merge it? Areia 13:07, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Falção - Needs a lot more on this Brazilian football player, especially his real name. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 04:11, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
  • Chelsea Charms - A porn star. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 04:07, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
  • Uvedale Price - fmt, wikif., source check. -- User:Docu
  • Mexican Standoff - An idiom. Has it gained currency? [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 22:02, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
    • I would say it has, but I also don't know of anything that can be said about it that could make it more than a dictdef. -- Antaeus Feldspar 05:06, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Agreed - it's known as far afield as here in New Zealand, if that's any indication, but it looks more like a Wiktionary than Wikipedia [[User:Grutness|Grutness talk ]] 12:55, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Dillonism - Actual condition? [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 21:57, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • Spatial competitivism - Ditto. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 21:55, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • Cindy Wilson - Member of The B-52's. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 21:52, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • Competitivism - Not much different from competition, I think. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 21:50, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • Cheju_April_3rd_Massacre - Little context. A battle in the Korean war? Is it significant? [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 21:49, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • Cheju April 3rd Massacre -- appears to be a real incident, but there's barely any context (not even the year before I looked it up and added it) and it appears that much of the truth about it only came out several decades after the fact. -- Antaeus Feldspar 21:47, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

November 28

Formatted, could still use work. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 09:29, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • Delme Thomas - A cricketer? [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 07:12, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
    • I'm guessing rugby. Ambi 07:26, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Jon King (porn star) - unwikified. Reads like a copyvio. RickK 06:46, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • Coulometry - original poster blanked it after adding it. Needs wikification. Reads like a copyvio. RickK 06:29, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • Debbie Jaramillo - Unwikified, POV, some bad grammar and spelling. RickK 06:26, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • Goda - Can't make heads nor tails out of this. Can somebody rewrite it into a meaningful article, or should it be listed on Vfd? RickK 05:45, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • John Skelton - Prose needs a little cleanup -- backs into who this person is and why a reader should care. Also screaming for categorization. Katefan0 00:41, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
Categorization seems to be done. Still contains weasel language. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 09:41, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • Also could use some formatting, headers etc. Katefan0 17:31, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
Did some picture formatting. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 09:39, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
No, they did crash, but some people walked away. The plane was crippled and he somehow flew her anyway, but that's better covered in the crash article. Delete is fine by me. --Dhartung | Talk 05:28, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Haynes is fairly well known, but it should be Fitch (who got them to the airport) who should be the well known one (but isn't). The United Airlines Flight 232 article covers the full incident, and otherwise Al Haynes, aviation speaker, doesn't seem notable. -R. S. Shaw 06:31, 2004 Nov 28 (UTC) == VfD Katefan0 16:42, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)
  • Lynn Strait - format & categories; may be copy-and-paste copyvio, but maybe not.
  • Meekrab - don't know what the deal is with this. Someone went all "Harold & Kumar" happy and made articles about insignificant aspects of the movie. -R. fiend 01:29, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Mee krob - minimal content. RickK 00:51, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)
  • Nerolic acid, Geranic acid - no content. RickK 00:35, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)

November 27

Turned out to be copyvio, I put notice on. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 12:51, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)
Is now a wikified stub with some more info. Isn't there a chess project to hand this to for further expansion? [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 10:56, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)
  • FreePPP - Needs wikifying. A whole lot of text.
  • United States v. Carolene Products Co. - just a discussion of what the case was, no discussion of the decision, nor of its implications. RickK 07:53, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)
  • List of gay erotic actors - mostly red links, half of the links to existing articles are to unrelated articles. I suggest removing all red links and auto-reverting any additions that don't lead to a relevant article. (List of webcomics did this with relatively little fuss.) Also, I bet a few of these guys are bi, not gay - rename? -Sean Curtin 02:26, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)
    • Or we could just delete the whole thing as unverifiable and unencyclopedic. That's my inclination at least. -R. fiend 05:45, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Disagree. Keep. This is one of the reasons why we keep lists instead of just replacing them with categories. If the links are wrong, clean them up, but don't delete them. RickK 07:53, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)

November 26

Isn't it a copyvio then? [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 22:46, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

November 25

November 24

November 23

  • This article is looking pretty good. Any objections to removing it from Cleanup? Joyous 02:15, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
  • Alex Kaleta - presumably a hockey player? The article contains nothing but sketchy statistics. RickK 06:19, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC)
  • Damon Armstrong - self-promotion, excessive external links. Notable? RickK 05:05, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC)
    • Actually, you'll want to put this on Votes for Deletion. --Idont Havaname 05:46, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
      • I was trying to get some idea of whether this is a person I've never heard of who might be worth an article. RickK 06:19, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC)
  • Quezon City — Huge grammar/semantics mistakes in Commerce & Economy section. Please edit if you can figure out what this person was saying; I don't know enough about the topic to edit it myself. --Idont Havaname 03:07, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Lestat de Lioncourt — Style is very conversational and could do with expansion. — OwenBlacker 00:43, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC)
  • Danny Hillis - needs work, esp. the insertion of material from another site. RickK 00:31, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC)
  • Fright Night — Appalling substub. I've wikified it a little but haven't seen the film recently (nor am I lucid enough) to do it justice. — OwenBlacker 00:13, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC)
    • And please reword it from scratch — it's all terribly POV and un-PC. — OwenBlacker 00:20, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC)
    • Edited and expanded, although I've left the somewhat-editorial comment in: do we really want that? --Phil | Talk 10:09, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

November 22

November 21

Needs expansion, otherwise needs to be merged with insect article. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 10:49, Nov 22, 2004 (UTC)
  • Sidewalk Surfing! - wikify. Also needs fact check--there seem to be two releases by the challengers with basically the same name, but radically different track lists. Niteowlneils 23:02, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Zenata--very little content, poorly written, I've fixed what I can but needs someone who knows vaguely about this Moroccan tribe. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 21:03, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)
  • Battle of the Beanfield -- highly POV, needs fixing. -- Anon.
  • Herbert Huncke - wikify Deus Ex 12:02, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Sisterson - 'A short-run comic book which ran for three or for issues around 1990' - notable?
  • Nico Demonte - NPOVing, non-encyclopedic style, possibly non-notable artist (no allmusic.com page, only ~230 Google hits). User added links to this page in about 10 different genres Lexor|Talk
  • Miller Puckette - unwikified text dump, possible copyvio. --Flockmeal 05:40, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)
  • Was a text dump from my own thesis on Pure Data, wanted to save before wikifying. Article might need further cleanup to articulate better. Not copyright infringement. --User:Seb(not registered) 5:43, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)
  • Joanna Pettet - unwikified text dump. Again, Copyvio? --Flockmeal 04:51, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)
  • Tartarus (Halo) - unwikified text dump. Copyvio? --Flockmeal 04:32, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)
  • Offensive marketing warfare strategies, Defensive marketing warfare strategies, Flanking marketing warfare strategies, and Guerrilla marketing warfare strategies all get bogged down in military metaphor. Might need to be sent to PNA, but I think we can add some context to the leads first, see "Defensive" changes. - RedWordSmith - Can you be more specific about why you feel these need to be cleaned-up? mydogategodshat 22:31, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Felicia - unwikified text dump. Notable? Copyvio? RickK 00:57, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)
    • Not encyclopedic at all. "Felicia" was just an Internet pseudonym of an unidentified anonymous person, posting in a few comic book message boards, and raising up a stink for a couple of weeks. Her effects at Marvel were pretty much negligible. The story was cute at the time, but in a couple of years nobody will remember "Felicia". In order to understand this, you'd have to know that at the time Bill Jemas was Marvel's president, Joe Quesada the EiC, Mark Waid the FF writer, and Rich Johnston a rumor monger. I'd VfD it. --Pc13 14:26, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Sultana (steamboat) - much of it unwikified and in non-encyclopedic style (from a 1925 newspaper article, as far as I can see) - Marcika 18:29, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Stencil shadow volume - in particular, someone who knows more about computer graphics than i do should give this a working-over. --Pyrop 21:44, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)

November 20

Copyvio--nixie 00:40, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
No copyvio. Did some basic cleanup --Cnu 10:09, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Agree. I wikified a bit, but its still messy and needs lots of context.Estel 19:40, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)
  • Liquid metal--seems to be a real genre (44,900 hits for "Liquid metal" +music, including a satellite radio station), but needs heavy cleaning. Why does metal spawn so many subcultures? [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 18:35, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)
  • The Majestic Documents - wikify, check facts Deus Ex 17:14, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • I've wikified, and don't see any factual problems; but I've only actually read a few of the documents. It could use some expansion, though. Ben Standeven 06:32, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Social balance theory - needs rewording, not easy to understand
  • Michael wayne - not sure how notable him or his company are Deus Ex 16:59, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

*Michael Moon - wikify

    • by the time I got there it had been done, but no-one removed the note. It's gone now. [[User:Grutness|Grutness talk ]] 13:34, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Deus (band) - wikify,although it may be non-notable
    • Wikified Estel 19:40, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)
  • Moringa - wikify Deus Ex 14:42, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Santa claus incident - is this really notable? Deus Ex 14:31, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Six by seven - wikify
    • Did a major overhaul. Should be moved to "Six By Seven"? -R. fiend 20:50, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Se vuol ballare - make into article or delete
  • Secret society of the seven - wikify
  • Order of the gimghoul - wikify
  • Matthew's bible - wikify Deus Ex 14:23, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Impact of WW1 - wikify
  • Open meeting laws - wikify
  • Open records law - wikify
    • I merged/redirected the above two into Sunshine law, because they had more in common than not. If someone was inspired to merge Sunshine law and Freedom of Information Act (disambiguation) into one, that might work - the latter page is quite good, and is far more than just disambig, but its title is a little US-centric, I think (lots of nations have these laws, only a few call them "FOIA"). So there's still stuff to do here, and it's a great subject, I think.. - Cdc 01:49, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Dog Patch Possible vfd
  • Drag Balls - what exactly is this?
    • The generic term "drag ball" is a dance where "drag", the wearing of female garb by males, and other gender-bending, is generally encouraged. This article is about a specific series of such dances, run by the specific female impersonator "Khrystal Leight", who happens to be User:Bobbkehrer. The same user has, I believe, created other pages about his alter ego and her activities, but if so they've been deleted. -- Antaeus Feldspar 16:35, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • I'd point out that drag (and related drag social events) is also used to indicate women dressing as men. Katefan0 20:41, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)
      • And in an article about the phenomenon of drag, or of drag balls, specifically, I would spell that out, instead of simply saying "other gender-bending". This however is not an article about either, making the point moot. -- Antaeus Feldspar 04:05, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Looked at it, I say mredirect to drag (clothing)and delete, there's no good point to having a separate page for this small facet of the culture. hfool 00:19, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Vocal trance music. Needs NPOVing, and copyediting into an encyclopedic style, subgenre is of dubious note. google:vocal trance. Lexor|Talk
    • Could easily be described as progressive trance. I've turned it into a redirect to progressive electronica. --Pc13 14:35, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Veepstakes - redirect to Vice President of the United States (veep already redirects there)? --rbrwr±
  • Rail transport modelling - unwikified, needs better organization --Szyslak
  • DJ Doboy - one of the most POV articles in the history of Wikipedia, and that's saying a

lot being that this is a music article --Szyslak Worked on it - Sprafa

  • Glenlair - unwikified. RickK 10:18, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)
  • Science of Value - unwikified text dump. Copyvio? RickK 10:11, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)
  • Jihad - User:134.22.70.218 has added several copyright violations to this page in the last four or five days. Unfortunately, several users have edited this page since he/she first started editing it. Unless someone objects, I am going to revert the entire page to just prior to 134.22.70.218's first edit. RickK 08:43, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)
  • Foreign relations of the Philippines - needs to be divided into sections, and reorganized so it's clearer and makes more sense. Also should be linked to other Philippines articles. JesseW 08:38, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Liedertafel - unwikified text dump about a Australian choir. Also listed on Template:Wikify. JesseW 08:35, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Roughnecks - unwikified text dump. Might could use another name. RickK 08:19, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)
  • Boyne mountain - unwikified, advertising, should be at Boyne Mountain. RickK 08:15, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)
  • Zaat ?? --nixie 06:48, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • A very unencyclopedically written review/essay/transcription of the cult movie "Zaat", a.k.a. "The Blood Waters of Dr. Z". Actually minorly notable as the subject of a Mystery Science Theater 3000 episode; probably a good idea to create a redirect that'll attract the MiSTies to work on it. -- Antaeus Feldspar 16:35, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Kidding on the square Not encyclopaedic
  • Giovanni lindo ferretti wikify

November 19

  • Ethnic Albania neededs POV editing/rewording by someone that knows about the subject Deus Ex 23:51, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Bill "DigitalBill" Douthett I'm not sure if this person is really notable. Anyone care to comment? Deus Ex 23:46, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
    • Though I'm sure he's a fine person, it looks like a glorified resume to me. Katefan0 00:36, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)
  • Farah islam is this a real person?
  • E-negotiation what is this about?
  • Book and snake wikify
  • Vanagon: "this is terribly messy, and disorganized, i know, but i would appreciate anyone editing in any missing or incorrect info. thank you." Maybe we should just salvage what we can and redirect to VW Type 2 which has an extensive section on this model already. --rbrwr±
    • Reorganised, some bit of editing. It'd be nice to make this a full main article with a summary on VW Type 2. Some info can be brought over from the latter that may not appear in this page. - Mailer diablo 22:44, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Theory of conduct This was probably listed before but i came across it randomly...it is big and scary and needs alot of cleanup! -Mkrupnic 21:04, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • CEM integration This makes no sense to me. Katefan0 21:01, Nov 19, 2004 (UTC)
  • EarthSave Is this encyclopedia-worthy? Looks like an ad for a company. Katefan0 20:56, Nov 19, 2004 (UTC)
  • Polymorphism in object-oriented programming — two article parts not yet melded together, plus comment "Lots more to be said here, including generics..." OwenBlacker
  • Twiztid - extremely chatty. Copyright vio? Danny
    • Thank god. It's a copyvio. Saves me having to spend my valuable time editing that crap. -R. fiend 16:36, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
      • actually, if you go to the page the copyvio notice points to, they claim their source is wikipedia, not the other way around. Suppafly 22:59, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
        • Crap. Just what we need: more bad publicity. Why can't people learn to write an encyclopedia article? -R. fiend 23:40, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Washim - needs context badly. Also needs expansion (substub to stub, at least). [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (hopefully!)]]
  • David McCullough Text dump. Possible copyvio? Definitely a notable historian who needs a good article. Academic Challenger
    • Seems it's a cut-and-paste from several sources, at times badly melded together. Should we list it as a copyvio? -R. fiend 06:32, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Modern Antiques - orphan, chatty, wikify etc - maybe merge into another article --JTN
    • Did a 100% re-write. Is it worth keeping though? Not sure how much this term is used. -R. fiend 08:47, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • DPPX -- Sarge Baldy 06:24, Nov 19, 2004 (UTC)
    • Rewritten. Check for any minor mistakes I made. :) - Mailer diablo 22:15, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • List of corset periods - was merged with a number of articles after listing on VfD. Needs serious cleanup, and also probably a different name. - Mike Rosoft 13:18, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Chakra - the introduction sounds a little bit strange, may be biased in favour of the existence of chakras, and doesn't seem to adequately represent the diversity of the traditions mentioned later in the article. The section on modern New Age notions is also strange with its many slashes, and may even be nonsense (I haven't put up any mental effort to determine this). arj 14:16, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Did restructuring, may need some expansion on acupuncture within the article and some points from non-believers. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 11:49, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)

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