User talk:Dweller

Welcome! to Wikipedia!

Hello Dweller, this is Exir Kamalabadi, and I hope that you are having fun with Wikipedia. First of all, welcome to Wikipedia! Find something that can be improved, either in content, grammar or formatting, then fix it. Don't be afraid. Be bold! If you do something wrong, there is always someone who will clean up the mess.

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Exir Kamalabadi^{Join Esperanza!} 01:30, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Norman Siegel

Hello Dweller, my name is Norman Siegel and I'm an extremely busy man so please excuse my frankness. I'd like you to reconsider the delete comment on the Israel A. Burns page. I don’t believe that he was given a fair objective disication because of his age. He has notable references and I believe he has done more in the city of Brooklyn then most of the local officials. That being said, if you would simply do a more serious inspection of the page, hopefully you will see the noted significance thank you.--N Siegel 23:33, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Cricket work

Hi Dweller, i saw that you created som cricketing pages (biffer and blocker batsmen), anyway, i'm helping to format them a bit better, leave a message on my talk page if I accidentally deleted something in the process MichaelBillington 11:48, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Ted Alletson

Hi, since you are busy clearing up this article... I thought a suggestion might help. There is a wikipedia article containing a List of cricketers -- and the articles linked on that page might give you some ideas on the right style and formatting to use for Ted Alletson. Let me know on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Good luck. - Motor (talk) 11:55, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I've copied your posts from User talk:Motor to Talk:Ted Alletson. I hope you don't mind... the discussion is about that article and things start to get a bit messy otherwise. I'll reply there. Thanks. - Motor (talk) 12:17, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Dweller 14:18, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Have you read the literature available online ? Cricinfo has two articles at http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/england/content/player/8718.html and http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/england/content/story/70117.html .

Tintin (talk) 14:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks... I have now! Dweller 14:17, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

stub sorting

If you'd like to help out with stub sorting, start here. You can also help out by putting the right stub on your article the first time. A list of stub types can be found here. If you have any more questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. Have a great day and happy editing! Amalas =^_^= 13:54, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Edwin Boaler Alletson

Hi, you may have noticed that I moved Ted Alleton's page to his full correct name. The page itself can still be accessed via Ted Alletson, but notice the redirect message at the top of the page. I've also started to build an introduction section for the article... this is meant to provide all the information in summary form so that anyone skimming the article can grasp the basic quickly. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style, Wikipedia:Annotated article and Wikipedia:The perfect article for more information. I've also created the page Alletson's Innings - which at the moment just redirects to Edwin Boaler Alletson. If you decide later that you want a separate article for his innings, you can change it from being a redirect into an article itself. Let me know if you have any problems doing that. Also, I'd appreciate you checking the article to make sure that I haven't missed any information or distorted anything. I'm not a cricket expert, and I'm just summarising the information. Also, feel free to change anything you disagree with. Thanks. - Motor (talk) 18:04, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks very much. Most helpful. Dweller 09:34, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Do you have any printed books/magazines that mention Alletson's innings, which we can use to better back up the claims made in the article? If you do, could you please add them to the bottom of the article: author, date of publication, publisher, ISBN number (and if possible, page numbers). Don't worry about formatting it correctly... just make the information clear and I'll do the formatting if you like. Thanks. - Motor (talk) 10:17, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I've given the most prestigious, in what seems to be its most recent reprint. Dweller 11:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I've just formatted the refs. If you are interested in how the cite book/cite web thing works: template:cite book and template:cite web. I've also removed the bold formatting from the several places. The usual style is to use bold for the first mention of the article title (in this case, the article has three: Ted Alletson, Edwin Boaler Alletson and Alletson's Innings). It's also good style to only link the first mention of a term, i.e. world record and not the subsequent ones. - Motor (talk) 12:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Very helpful thanks. There's a lot to learn about Wiki. A bit off-putting perhaps, but gentle 'nudges' by editors like you are an excellent way forward. Dweller 14:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I know it can seem a bit complicated, but there's only really one important thing to remember: when you enter a new fact/claim/article into Wikipeda you should try to down note where you got the information from -- your source(s). Everything else... things like formatting, typos or organisation... can all be picked up as you go, and are easily sorted out by others. - Motor (talk) 15:20, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Persondata - you might like to spread that around too (like adding it to a few more cricket biography articles). The more people know about it, the faster it'll spread. - Motor (talk) 12:29, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject Cricket

Since your main interest seems to be cricket, please feel free to join WP:CRIC Tintin (talk) 14:38, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks! Have done. Dweller 15:31, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

It should be Image of England.svg. You left out the .svg part. For those who have played only first class cricket, it is far more easier to use Infobox:Old cricket. Take a look at Maharaja of PorbandarTintin (talk) 16:06, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Dweller 16:07, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

For the start and end date, go to the cricketarchive page of Alletson (http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Players/27/27460/27460.html). The "Lists of matches and more detailed statistics" will lead to the list of his first class matches (http://cricketarchive.co.uk/Archive/Players/27/27460/First-Class_Matches.html). The convention followed is to use the starting dates of the first and last matches, and not the last day of the last match. Tintin (talk) 16:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Norwich City work

Hey, welcome and good work to the Norwich page. I'd like to keep contributing and enhancing this (and any relevant sub-) page and I'm pleased you're doing the same. More power to pan-East-Anglian supporters positive contributions to the Wikipedia! Budgiekiller 20:53, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Cheers! Dweller 21:06, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Even if you are a dirty budgie! Budgiekiller 21:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

With regard to your comment on my editing of Pride of Anglia, there's nothing wrong with a little bit of football banter. I didn't expect it to last, just a little bit of humour among fans. Robbro7

Sorry about removing the white kit, couldn't quite believe it was true. How unpleasant...! Anyway, thanks for citing it and I apologise for rushing in too quick. I did have a look around but being a Tractor Boy I wasn't prepared to open an account with the official NCFC site! Budgiekiller 11:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey, no worries! Dweller 11:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Misc

Noa

Hi again, Dweller -- I really like the neat rewording you did in your recent edit of this article; that was a sentence I'd retained from the previous version I expanded, and to tell the truth, I had trouble with it! So, nice job!

I'm about to add some discussion about that very point regarding Noa on the article's Talk page -- and as wasn't sure whether you're watching it. (I've only been editing here for two weeks, and I still don't grasp all the flagging mechanisms.) So this is a head's up: you're invited to respond and I'd appreciate the input! (Just give me a coupla minutes to write it! :-) Thanks, Deborahjay 19:03, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Have done. Not sure I've been very helpful though! Dweller 13:02, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Hair or Ben

Don't sweat it. This sort of stuff goes on a lot at new pages. In a case like this, which is clearly a speedy deletion candidate, you just politely let the editor know how to oppose the speedy deletion with {{hangon}}. They often give up when you contact them on their talk page, if not, start working through WP:VAND warnings... and if they persist... WP:AIV. - Motor (talk) 10:46, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Having looked through his edit history, this article has been created and deleted before. So you could have also used {{db-repost}} to tag it. - Motor (talk) 11:03, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Zubeen Garg

It looks like your deletion noticed was removed by the creator of the article. I subsequently restored the notice once I found the empty article (though under a different reason). I am using VandalProof to do RC patrol. It's a pretty useful tool. 10:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

The deletion notice doesn't look invisible to me. It's right there in plain sight in the article. 10:39, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. 10:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Cool! 10:51, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Uganda YMCA

This was not a speedy. I'm here in Kampala raising the profilemof WP. Charles Matthews 10:36, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Imperial Dragons

Hi. Thanks for your work on Imperial Dragons. However, it looks very much like it's a fan creation for the Warhammer 40,000 game, and probably won't be hanging around for any longer than it takes for it to be sent through AfD, so don't worry too much about it. Cheers --Pak21 11:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Groan. What a waste of effort! On the other hand, a) thanks for the nice message and b) I loved the hilarious message posted on the originator's Talk page. Dweller 11:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, very much have my eyes on the fancruft-central which is List of Space Marine Chapters... as for the message on the originator's talk page, I think it comes up WP:AGF: it could be canon and I (and Lowris) have just screwed up again. Cheers --Pak21 12:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for butting in here (I still have Dweller's page in my watchlist), but let me know when you AFD that space marine stuff and I'll be there to delete vote them. - Motor (talk) 12:27, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey, as far as I'm concerned, you're welcome! :-) Dweller 12:38, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Greg Wain

Hey Dweller,

I'm currently working on justification for the article Greg Wain, which I will post in the article's talk page. Hopefully it won't need to be too long. But in the meantime, Greg Wain is a headmaster of Australia's second most prestigious school (or is marketed as that anyway) and has made considerable contributions to emotional intelligence. There are also heaps of other things to note about him aswell, and as I mentioned earlier, I'll post them in the article's talk page soon. I hope this satisfies for the meantime...

Cheers JonoL 09:44, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Definitely. If you can find a source for saying it's Australia's second most prestigious school, then add it to the article and I think that'll help the argument. Good luck! Dweller 09:57, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Persondata on Stephen Fry

It looks ok. I'm not entirely sure whether it's necessary to list "Stephen Fry" as an alternate name though. Two things... it's a good idea to include [[Wikipedia:Persondata]] in the edit summary to clarify for anyone reading what it is (and pass on the instructions). Normal users can't see the data in the page and they wonder what you've actually done. Also, the date isn't actually U.S. style, it's ISO standard: year-month-day, which allows easy sorting by computer. BTW: if you read the persondata page, it tells you how to modify your own Wikipedia stylesheet to let you see the Persondata when viewing the article - Wikipedia:Persondata#Viewing persondata. It makes it easier to see which articles do/don't already have it, and helps you to see whether you have formatted it correctly. Let me know if that's not clear. - Motor (talk) 14:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Clear! Thanks v much. Dweller 14:39, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

A-Ba-Ni-Bi

I hope you don't mind that I've done some surgery on your article on the song to keep it roughly consistent with the other ESC winner articles I've done up. Of course, odds are that there'lll end up being some sort of template-y thing which will supersede all our collective work anyway. BigHaz 02:34, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem, that's what it's all about! Dweller 07:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

3th century

Thanks for letting me know about the speedy tag and the typo ... I passed the wrong parameter to a yearbox template, and blindly followed the red link. Stumps 11:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Patrick Delaney

Yeah, you did fine. Personally, I would've zapped someone after their third warning, but that's just me. If he doesn't listen, I afraid that's my next move. I tried pointing him in the right direction of WP:BIO. Unless he starts asking questions, I can't be more newbie friendly... Let me know if you need more help. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:05, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Joachim Johansson (bodybuilder)

Instead of reprimanding him for removing the tag, I've asked him to provide sources. The search results for the tennis player make it impossible for a non-body building fan like me to find any relevant google links, but they could exist. - Mgm|^(talk) 12:45, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

lol. Cool. Dweller 13:02, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

RE:Your welcome messages

What template are you using? It's better than {welcome}! Dweller 15:57, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I'm using {{subst:welcomeg|--~~~~}} . It seems the most welcoming as it is more graphicy and has loads more useful stuff on it than most of the other welcome messages. Benjaminstewart05 16:01, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Quiz

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cricket/Quiz is the place. Actually there is a link to this from the Cricket project page. Tintin (talk) 09:20, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Israel A. Burns

There's no need to be bewildered by it... it's standard operating procedure on AFD. The AFD process is so broken and unscalable that it is close to being complete madness half the time. Wait until you get into the middle of the Deletionism, Inclusionism, Exclusionism battles and all the factions in between... and of course, none of the above. It's like that sketch from Life of Brian#Analysis. I'll leave you to figure out where you sit with that lot. :) - Motor (talk) 10:31, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Nicholas Tildemann

I guess somebody agreed with me - the article was removed when I went to change it from a speedy to a reg. deletion. Sorry. Srose 12:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:Nathaniel Bar-Jonah

Thanks for the message. It could still use a fair amount of work, as there is a decent amount of information out there that can be used, especially in the profile link I already have in the "references" section. Feel free to expand it based on that link, or other reliable sources you can find. EWS23 (Leave me a message!) 20:24, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Help Desk response

Thanks! It usually just takes a push in the right direction for many people to figure out their questions. -- Natalya 01:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Gladiators

I just thought that it would get recreated. And redirects are cheep? CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 09:41, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

The Needles (band)

Hiya, I saw that you slapped a {{db-copyvio}} template on The Needles (band). db-copyvio lets you insert the URL of the original source, so in this case the template should've read {{db-copyvio|url=http://www.video-c.co.uk/radarwatch.asp?vidref=then015&text=expanded&playback=S&player=QT}}. I've edited the template already, but I'm just letting you know for future reference :) Matt Eason 11:09, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, that's helpful. I'm still a bit of a noob and tips like that are useful. Dweller 11:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: User talk:JustBenCrew

Heh, thanks. I pretty much made it up on the spot, but now that I think about it that could maybe be useful in a few situations. Feel free to use/ignore/edit/template/whatever it as you please! Luna Santin 11:33, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Re 195.40.4.49

I took a look at what they did here - basically copy the warning that had been placed by others on their talk page - and have watchlisted your and their pages to see what may or may not happen next. I've found that whilst most schools seem to have sensible kids, some do not and need to be blocked. Sad but true. --AlisonW 23:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I award you a barnstar

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		I, Michael Billington, award you the working man's barnstar for your tireless contributions to the project. Note: You may wish to move this to your user page. MichaelBillington 06:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Wow. A whole Barnstar, just for little old me? Thank you! It's my first!

What did I do right? :-)

Dweller 08:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad you like it. If it may be of interest, here is my reasoning:

I was startled when I saw how many edits you have clocked up over the last two months. You have made around 650 edits in the last two months alone. I think all wikipedians should get the recognition they deserve from such a good lot of contributions, so I chose the working man's barnstar so you could see how much everyone appreciates you helping out here. You asked what you did right: You found something that interests you, and you expanded on the articles in your field. Keep it up and happy editing! MichaelBillington 09:12, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

As you requested...

(edit conflicted) Hi Dweller, you have previously requested that you be notified if I am nominated for sysop. Well, I have now nominated myself, and the nomination can be found at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Kimchi.sg. Regards, Kimchi.sg 06:29, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

No

No, you weren't being dense about The Aristocrats (film) article. I was just creating this page and only now added info about the joke and a link to the full article on it. Enjoy. --relaxathon 13:02, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Group of Death

Hey, just thought I should let you know that the group of death you referred to was group C in Euro 2004 (not Euro 2000), so I've linked it to the group on that page instead. Hurrah! Budgiekiller 15:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

There's nothing worse for pedants than being, erm, wrong. Blast. <grits teeth> Well done, thanks. (You really have killed this Budgie). --Dweller 15:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Latest score - Tractor Boy 1-0 Budgie! Budgiekiller 15:28, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Verification

List of wars and disasters by death toll seems to be a bit of a mess generally, it could certainly do with some good sources. I am at a bit of a loss as to the purpose of the article to be honest. I cannot in truth see any point in it, though I doubt very much that it would be possible to get it VfD'd. I wonder if the scope of the article is just too big for one thing. I could see some point in having a list of wars, and a seperate list of disasters, but I would just list them alphabetically and I don't really understand the concept of attempting to put figures on the unknowable, at most these are just best guesses. I also wonder how events like the space disasters count as a real disasters, loss of life wise, I mean they vary from the loss of a single life to the loss of seven lives, these events may have been disasters for their respective space programmes, but in terms of the number of individuals that died their inclusion seems a bit odd. Then there's the Murder by individuals section, are we to list every single recorded murder? In the War and military action section it mentions a figure of 30-60 million for the 13th century Mongol expansion, but this seems just daft to me, it's pick a figure time. I also noticed that many, if not most of the comments on the talk page are unsigned, even by IP address, I find this quite disturbing, there are obviously some people here with an some sort of agenda, or maybe I'm being a bit paranoid. What is your opinion? Alun 17:31, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... I've seen it before, thought not edited. It looks like a bad mess. And a political minefield too. What fun! We could get seriously stuck into it. Actually, rather than arguing the toss over every line, a good start point might be splitting the page into two halves for verified and unverified stats and gradually move constituent parts upwards? What do you think of that? --Dweller 17:59, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Meant to get back to you about the article, I'm a bit pushed for time but think it's a good idea to try to work on this article. By the way the thing that niggled me about the KP article was that my not verified tag kept being removed without a proper explanation. I'm always a bit wary of articles that don't use in line citations, as any new edit may appear to be supported by the list of citations in the article, because it is unclear which citations support which edits. Anyway I got the impression that the KP article is in good hands and any erroneous information will be quickly removed. I am quite keen on verification though and the Listof Wars article could do with some verification, as well as some major editing work. Alun 16:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Movement of the Earth's Crust

Thanks :) Seemed like a reasonable search term... Grutness...wha? 10:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

It's what I was expecting to find when I spotted the article name on RC patrol. NOT the pseudo-scientific claptrap that I did find! :-) --Dweller 10:49, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

David Jason Silver

If you say AFD as you did in tagging List of notable Bosnia Herzegovian veterans, make sure it's AFD. It was mighty confusion trying to look for a non-existant AFD entry ;) - Mgm|^(talk) 12:00, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh crikey. Sorry. My noobishness showing through again? <cringes>. --Dweller 12:05, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

• And why didn't you do anything about the David Jason Silver article? - Mgm|^(talk) 12:04, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Looked as if it may be notable. --Dweller 12:05, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Boys And Girls (song)

I'm inclined to believe that it's notable at the moment, since it's one of the very few songs to have been selected for the Contest and then not performed. It's also Beslan-inspired, which to my knowledge is pretty rare in English-language songs at least (I obviously can't speak for Russian ones). BigHaz 08:52, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Nice answer. Can you add that to the article? --Dweller 09:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Andorra the band

Hi, thanks for the message. I realised before I got your message, as on adding the AfD box I got linked to the previous discussion. But thanks again for taking the time to let me know. --Wisden17 13:39, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Epicity

Hey, no worries. You're quite right that its a non-notable neologism and it will get deleted, but its important to follow the policies so that everyone can understand what's going on. You might like to take a look through WP:CSD for the full list of what is speediable. Good luck, and feel free to drop me a comment on my talk page if I can help you in any way. Best, Gwernol 15:30, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing me to the Subsidary page. I've redirected it to Subsidiary. Subsidary is probably a common enough mispelling that its worth redirecting to the existing article. Good catch on that one. Best, Gwernol 16:54, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Template

Hi Dweller!

It's in my user space - User:Redvers/Vanity. Feel free to take a copy and put it at User:Dweller/Vanity if you like! The page for new users it links to is at User:Redvers/New Users; some people using my template leave the link to that page (probably because I'm an admin and can take the screams of the users) but you can take a copy for yourself if you wish.

Don't forget to subst: the template if you use it! {{subst:User:Dweller/Vanity}}~~~~

Cheers! ➨ ЯЄDVERS 16:06, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: John Hedley Desmond Lucy McConnell

Hey there, as you've noticed there's been a tag added to that article addressing that very concern, so my hunch is other Wikipedia editors will pitch in and analyze/improve it. Do keep me updated though. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. --Pilot|guy 22:39, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Weller brothers

Hi Dweller - I agree with you in your "wikify" comments... but please take it easy with User: Peter Entwisle. He isn't very tech-savvy but he is a very useful editor - a professional historian and writer (if you look at a lot of New Zealand history articles, you'll see books in the reference lists written by P. Entwisle). Because of that, I'm trying to mentor him a bit until he gets the hang of wikification. Grutness...wha? 01:56, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

AfD

WP:AFD if you still think it should be deleted. - CrazyRussian talk/email 16:19, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Never done one before. Seems a little cumbersome, esp. in contrast to speedys. Oh well. I'll see if he deletes the current prods. --Dweller 16:58, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Lashings & Tendulkar

Hey, two things - firstly, thanks for combatting the vandalism on my user page, and secondly, just thought (in case you missed it) you should see this because I knew you'd be interested in it. Especially as it happend not too many miles down the road from us both... Budgiekiller 20:08, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

np re vandalism and thanks for that article. Nice strike rate, eh? btw I presume that vandal was irritated with you for something specific, he doesn't just go for binmen? --Dweller 22:03, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

He seemed upset with some reversions I did on his vandalism on the Man Utd page, but it was a while ago. I found the vandalism quite amusing! But thanks for the revert. I direct him to a budgie next time... Budgiekiller 06:30, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Nagara373

Thanks but at the first quick glance I don't see any wrongdoing. Sorry I'm on the run right now, please use WP:ANI in the future. Cheers. ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 10:20, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Kill Doctor Lucky

I made the change we discussed. Thanks for the dialogue! -- JHunterJ 14:03, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Nathaniel Bar-Jonah

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I found the time to further expand this page like I wanted to. Let me know what you think. EWS23 (Leave me a message!) 07:17, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Sporting events

Because this is a list, citations shouldn't be needed where the list summarises a figure given in the main wiki article for that disaster. Citations only needed where the Disaster has no corresponding wiki article, or figure is disputed. --mervyn

I need to work through all of them to check. I'll take down the citations as I find they're not needed. It's a *work in progress* --Dweller 13:22, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

My work in progress can be seen at the article and in user:Dweller/sandbox

Actually Dweller, I wouldn't go to the trouble. I've had second thoughts about that particular form of presentation, it's messy and complicated, hard to get right and rather restrictive, and the end result neither looks very good nor is that easy to read in my opinion.

I'm working on a simpler, more elegant and more functional solution for the presentation of data on this page. So if I were you I wouldn't waste too much time on the formatting ATM, unless it's just for your personal edification.

Actually, I might as well show you a quick example of what I'm working towards. This one uses a fixed width text that is normally used for computer code and so on, I don't intend to use such text in the final version, but the layout is pretty much how I want it to be. Just to give you an idea of what lines I'm thinking along. I find this solution to be basically simpler, easier to read and more flexible, in that you can discuss each event at greater length instead of being confined to a wee little box in which you try to fit in one little piece of info or another. I think it looks a lot better too, quite frankly, even in the temporary fixed width text format.

BTW, note that the code to this little table is not really suitable for using as a basis for table code, because the format for fixed width tables is quite different than for normal tables. I'm just giving you this as an example of the type of layout I'm trying to work towards.

30,000,000 - 200,000,000 - African/Atlantic slave trade (16th - 19th C)

27,000,000 -  72,000,000 - Communist China (1949-1975) under 
                           Mao Zedong[1]

20,000,000 -  26,000,000 - Democides and genocides (1933 -1945) of 
                           Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler

 3,000,000 -  30,000,000 - War crimes of Imperial Japan, especially in 
                           China, 1930's-1945, under Hideki Tojo and 
                           others. See also Japanese war crimes.[2]

BTW, I've left a copy of this message on the article's talk page. Gatoclass 22:59, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Ted Alletson

Hi, Dweller. You were right first time re Alletson's name. He was called Ted and so that is what WP convention requires he should be called here. After all we don't give Johnny Douglas's name in full in the tile and that is a good example to support our view. All the best. --Jack 09:30, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Shanadoo

I have restored the speedy tag; I consider "no claim of notability" an abbreviation for the A7 speedy criterion. - Mike Rosoft 12:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

דוגמה למופ"ת - The Mofet article has been edited...

...and its creator advised (on the article's talk page) and personally welcomed (on his talk page). It isn't every day I dialogue with someone younger than my own children...!

BTW, the Hebrew I wrote here is a play on words based on his article's title: the phrase dugmah le-mofet means "an example worthy of emulation". Don't know if my writing qualifies, but since our junior colleague and I are new to Wikipedia, I think we'll find a common language to suit our common cause. Thanks for the intervention, -- Deborahjay 15:30, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Pirate Party USA

Before you re-create that article, please note this: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pirate Party of the United States. Note the consensus. --Calton | Talk 09:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Before you suggest I've created something, how about checking the page history. Note the evidence. --Dweller 09:37, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Why not just write an article about them? Even if they approve, it won't be the right tone... and let's not even go there with POV. Before you suggest something I didn't say you did, how about recalling what you suggested someone do? Or was that some other user named "Dweller"? --Calton | Talk 10:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I didn't recreate anything. And I don't plan to. If the person that did wants to do so, he should do so with his own efforts, not a copyvio. And if he does so and demonstrates notability, he's done nothing wrong. I was trying to help, so admonish the bad guys. --Dweller 10:57, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I didn't recreate anything Dot's nice. What that has to do with your actual suggestion that an editor actually do so in direct violation of the actual AFD I actually linked to -- which was the actual point, if you were paying attention -- I don't know, but if it's important to you, yes, you didn't recreate anything, nor did you kidnap the Lindbergh baby. --Calton | Talk 12:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I had no idea that the article was a repost. (Incidentally, as I'm still something of a newbie, how does one know when articles are reposts?) I tagged him for the blatant copyvio and posted a helpful comment on the talk page explaining how the creator of the article could overcome that problem. I've done nothing wrong and deserve no admonishment. You posted your AFD after I tagged and added to the talk page. Now I'm off to improve my mind by finding out what the heck the Lindbergh baby is/was... but I do suggest you've fallen foul of WP:AGF here and I'm not the one in the wrong. --Dweller 21:30, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Relativity

Relativity was not "made up in school one day", and in fact is one of the most important scientific advances of the 20th century. I gather that you don't approve of it, but do not disrupt Wikipedia to make a point. --EMS | Talk 14:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey, lighten up. a) it was obviously a joke and b) what's the "disruption" on a Talk page. --Dweller 15:20, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

You need to see user talk:Der alte Hexenmeister. Let's just say that there are plenty of people out there who seriously would agree with your posting, and it is a nuisance when they show up here. As for disruption, I was refering to the implied possibility of your initiating an AfD on the article. However, even this joke is mildly disruptive in that it forces people to respond. --EMS | Talk 17:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

OK. I'm sorry. --Dweller 21:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. It was a relief to realize that you were not even serious. It actually was a bit humorous, and the lack of bile in it marked both you and it as something different from the usual trolling the we occasionally get here. Unfortunately, those of us who watch that page have to take that type of threat seriously. --EMS | Talk 21:37, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Once you explained, I was happy to do what I could. I have no intentions to inadvertently stamp my way into a minefield. (Hmmm... note to self, nice metaphor, reuse!) I've reverted the page, deleting my contribution. Even though I thought it was one of my wittier moments. --Dweller 21:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Userpage

It is rather good isn't it! But I'm just in the processing of nicking it myself! I came across it on Kittybrewster's userpage, haven't looked to see if he's nicked it. But yes it certainly is a nice userpage. I've been meaning to redesign (or ask someone nicely to redesign) my userpage for a while. But this was the best thing I've seen so far. So feel free to join me in nicking this wonderful design! --Wisden17 21:57, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

lol --Dweller 21:59, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:Techno Source

It does look suspiciously like and advert. WP:AFD would be the way to go, as a PROD is going to be contested by the author and speedy doesn't apply. You want me to do the listing or will you? Petros471 16:09, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice / support. I'll do it. Let me know if I get it wrong. --Dweller 16:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Looks fine. Cheers, Petros471 16:28, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Speedy

I try my best :D--§hanel 16:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Group of Death or Group of death

Um, I just stumbled across the above 'problem'. Not sure what you want to do about it as you started the first page, presumably not realising the second existed. The second is quite comprehensive and probably should remain as is while the first should become a redirect. I'll leave it to you to decide, just thought you ought to know! Budgiekiller 08:39, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah nuts. What a waste of time. Good spot though. When I searched for "Group of Death" the software didn't find Group of death!

Just to make sure I wasn't imagining it, I just did the same for "Group of sleep" and it didn't find Group of Sleep. So now I've created Group of sleep as a redirect.

To address this issue (!) I completely agree with you. Bah and phooey. --Dweller 08:43, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Job done. Appreciate it if you reviewed it in case I've done a hatchet job. --Dweller 08:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Vandal reversion

As always, thanks for the revert job. Seem to be a few vandals prowling around my turf today...! Budgiekiller 10:33, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Wow, I'm really getting picked on today! Thanks again... Budgiekiller 10:54, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

WikiThanks

Thanks for the barnstar. It's nice to hear that my work is appreciated.
 SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  15:00, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Origins of the First World War

Looks like a clear redirect to me, so I've redirected it accordingly. Not often you get a new page that long that isn't a copyvio. Oldelpaso 10:42, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Critic of Islam

• :-) Your own words betray you. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is indeed a critic but to blanket refer to her as "anti-Islam" is not correct. This is true primarily due to the fact that she's only "Anti-" to certain aspects of Islam... and not generally the entire religion. Netscott 14:55, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks. I think you'll have your work cut out though, with a narrow definition of the category. Not everyone here is well-intentioned, or with no desire to score points! --Dweller 14:58, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

You can respond here with no need to crosspost if you'd prefer not to. I know all too well from personal experience that not everyone here is well-intentioned. I'm not sure what you're referring to with the "score points" commentary though. Netscott 15:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Maybe you were saying "axe to grind" with the "score points" commentary? Netscott 15:01, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Not too much to read into it... I just meant that there are undoubtedly (exceedingly sad) people out there who will take great joy in adding names that don't really fit to that Category, just so that they can score points against Islam. (Is "score points" a British idiom?) --Dweller 15:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I suppose your usage of "score points" is British in this case. In the way you've described it it sounds a bit more like "axes to grind"... but I don't see how adding someone like Ayaan Hirsi Ali to such a category is going to "score points against Islam"... if anything in my mind it'd be moreso "score points against Ayaan Hirsi Ali"... or put in the way that seems clearer, "Those with axes to grind against Ayaan Hirsi Ali will add her to the category.". :-) Netscott 15:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

lol I bow to your greater knowledge. --Dweller 15:13, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

:-) It's all good. I've appreciated your discourse though. Netscott 15:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Honeyburge Posting - Kids Cottage Toys

Can I have some advice on how to improve the article? I've seen an article by The Entertainer Ltd which was accepted. I'm not vandalising - I remover the delete banner because I thought I'd improved it.

Thank you

Hi. I'll reply on the talk page of the article. --Dweller 15:22, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Your award

I'm not sure whether to be flattered or insulted! But I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt ;) Gatoclass 03:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, it's definitely flattery. --Dweller 08:55, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

NCFC

Good work on the NCFC player of the year page!

That last comment was mine - I forgot to 'sign' it! Demonicanglian.

Adelaide Football Club player lists by year

You are right, it does seem a bit extreme to have lists of players by year for every Australian Football League club. You can put them up for AfD, or have me do it if you wish. It's going to be a big nomination. :) --Kimchi.sg 12:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Is there an automated or clever way of doing this? --Dweller 12:14, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

For multiple articles, no. There are scripts like this one that automate the process for single-article nominations, but they aren't smart at handling things like second nominations or, in our case, multiple articles in one nomination. --Kimchi.sg 12:33, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh dear. I've no idea how to make them all appear on one page, which would be smart. --Dweller 12:35, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

The steps are on the Articles for deletion page, but here's a short summary.

Suppose you want to nominate 3 pages: SomePage, AnotherPage and YetAnotherPage.

1. Paste the {{afd1}} on SomePage, as usual. This will create a link to the AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SomePage.
2. To get AnotherPage and YetAnotherPage to link to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SomePage, paste the afd1 template on these pages in a different form: {{afd1|SomePage}}.
3. Create the AfD page (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SomePage) as usual, but before you go on to step 3 (listing it in the daily log), edit the AfD page and mention the other articles you want to nominate for deletion also. (Just write something like "I also want to nominate these articles for deletion: AnotherPage and YetAnotherPage.")
4. List the AfD page on the daily log using the Afd3 template, as normal.

Hope the above helps. --Kimchi.sg 13:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Dayan and Beth din

Hello.

1. Please do not revert my good-faith productive changes without any discussion or explanation.
2. What I did was correct: there's no need to disambiguate between the Dayan the judge and Moshe Dayan - because Moshe Dayan is not ambiguous to Dayan, and a "Dayan redirects here" notice at the top of Beth din is plenty sufficient.

I think this is a non-issue, but if you wish to follow with this further, please discuss first, and we can enlist a third opinion if we cannot come to an understanding. Thank you. - CrazyRussian talk/email 14:05, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I think you've been too quick off the mark. I have given explanation at the talk page. And it was you that reverted my edit without discussion. You've only come here now because I reverted your revert. --Dweller 14:07, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I was a bit eager b/c of all the broken links on rabbi articles. I made a good faith edit on 6/30. The first revert was yours on 6/2. - CrazyRussian talk/email 14:10, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Not sure I follow. On the History page [3] I see a lot of edits by me and then you stepped in on 1st July. --Dweller 14:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

OT: I see you've found Delsort/Judaism I created. Good job. I'll see more of you then, I imagine. - CrazyRussian talk/email 14:14, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Just look through the whatlinkshere I posted on talk: surely that must be enough to convince you! - CrazyRussian talk/email 14:17, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Zidane

Hi

My opinion is that if you have to show the headbut, one also has to show glorious moments of his career because otherwise it only shows one part of the story - a moment of loss of mindfulness. Where are the pictures showing him winning one of his honors, listed below?

So add a further picture. Don't take away valid content. --Dweller 11:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Questions

My questions are: the Sturmabteilung were an atheist organization? Large part of Sturmabteilung members were atheists? --Vess 13:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Quiz

Aaaargh. I made an error. One of his seven hundreds was in a Second XI match. I looked at his scores above 200 without looking at the status of the matches. Thanks for the query, or the error would have stayed there.

All his seven hundreds were in England and all the six fc doubles were in county matches. Tintin (talk) 10:34, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Redirects

The reason for keeping miscapped redirects is that, if I were to be typing in the address bar, and mistakenly type "Gledhill" as "gledhill"...

see? DS 17:19, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

That's an argument for creating redirects for every single article that has more than one word in its name. --Dweller 17:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Given that it already existed, and was already a redirect, there was no reason to delete it. DS 00:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

i havent deleted anything

i havent deleted anything. i just added my thanks for the reply i got for my querry on that page. why will i delete anything. nids 18:13, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

i got the prob. our edits were saved at the same time. when i was editing u saved the page. since i saved my page later, by a few secs, ur edits were reverted. it wasnt my fault. please reply if u got what the problem was, else i will try to elaborate it more for u. nids 18:19, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

since i havent got any reply i assume that u havent got what the prob. was. i shall elaborate. open the edit option of the same page in two different windows. now do edits in one of them and save it. close the window. now do some edits in another window (they must be different from the first). now save the second window. then open the original page. u'll see that ur first edits would have been reverted and only ur second edits will be shown on the page. this was what happened at the time when u saved ur edits before me, but we were actually editing the same page. since i saved my page later, ur edits got reverted. i m sorry for ur inconveniences but it wasnt my fault either. atleast reply if u got what the prob. was. waitin for ur reply. nids 06:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

sorry... have been offline. Yes, I get it. I think they've updated the software and there are more problems with edit conflicts. Glad you hadn't deliberately deleted. --Dweller 08:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

fine if the prob. is resolved. seems that u r brit.nids 10:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Duncan Forbes (footballer)

Great work!

Any relation of yours? --Dweller 16:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. No, no relation ;) Forbsey 16:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

RfA

Thanks for your comments. I'm not sure I'll be able to work at quite the rate I did due to work commitments, so I may not apply again (never say never, though), but your comments are much appreciated!

EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME 17:04, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Schools of History

The empty tag says (reason 3), Consists only of links elsewhere. If you want, you can make it into a list page or disambigation page. Reywas92 16:07, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

It's a stub. It'll develop. That's one option. --Dweller 16:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

No, it was a sub-stub. Stubs are usually at least a paragraph. ~MDD4696 16:12, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Ha! it was deleted!

(Ignoring User:Reywas92's juvenility) "usually"? --Dweller 16:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Have you taken a look at Wikipedia:Stub? ~MDD4696 16:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Does this sound familiar, "The length of the article is not an absolute rule to classify between a stub and a non-stub." --Dweller 16:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Stubs and subst

Thanks for the note. Regarding the subst'ing of stub templates, the stub sorting project prefers not to do this for reasons given here [4]. --Bruce1ee 10:51, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

There is consensus, but I'll get back to you with the official position on this. --Bruce1ee 11:12, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, please hold off subst-ing until I get back to you. --Bruce1ee 11:24, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I could see what you were doing (and I was in the middle of writing you an explanation). The rule is never to use subst: on stub templates. Doing so completely ruins the work done by WP:WSS since it makes resorting articles close to impossible. It also means that a template and its corresponding category can easily be separated which is even worse. I think I have fixed all the affected articles now. WP:WSS will probably have to write this rule somewhere easy to see. Happy editing. Valentinian ^(talk) 12:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I couldn't find the policy and I was deliberately looking for it! --Dweller 12:19, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, we've got our act together now. Please have a look at WP:WSS#General rules and WP:SUBST#Templates that should NOT be substituted. I hope this helps. Thanks. --Bruce1ee 15:19, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Cats and Coffee warning

I added a couple more citations, and can find others... does this satisfy your notability concerns? - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 12:18, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Nice work. I'll ask someone more experienced than me to comment. Happy to remove prod if they don't prod2 it! --Dweller 12:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I think its borderline either way, there is usage outside NANAE, but I'm still debating whether or not this article can be more than a dictionary definition or not... it may ultimately get merged into news.admin.net-abuse.email - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 12:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Merge is done... I requested speedy on the page as theres really no reason to force an AFD for something this trivial. - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 12:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

RE: RfA

Thanks, but I'm not sure I'll run again, at least for a while! EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME 18:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Pass-Pirates

Thanks for the heads-up re db-advert. Why does the template exist? It should be deleted. I don't agree with your db-empty however; the article doesn't seem to fall foul of those criteria. --Dweller 10:01, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe the db-advert tag was created by an ambitious user but not debated and accepted into the WP:CSD criteria, so while it was undoubtedly a bold move it was sidestepping procedure somewhat, so got the active portion of it disabled (i.e. adding it doesn't automatically list the article in the speedy deletion category). At the time I added the db-empty tag the article was only one sentence saying it was a forum that gave out passwords for adult sites, so I figured it probably classed as speedy (on reflection, db-group might have fitted better as it didn't "assert the notability"). Frankly I still can't see much hope for the article - it fails WP:WEB pretty hard, having been in existence only for a few months and having no Alexa rank. ~Matticus ^T_C 11:04, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

It sure does fail WP:WEB! Thanks --Dweller 11:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Sarandon

Yup, I'm fairly new. I use MediaWiki at work though, so have some experience with it.--Michig 13:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

RE: RfA

Sorry you weren't successful. Please drop me a note if you stand again in a few months. --Dweller 14:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, will do! Sorry about the late reply, I managed to miss your message and haven't been around recently. EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME 12:28, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Err, maybe I replied above! Oops. EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME 12:31, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

RfA

Re your comment in Deville's RfA : And there is a need for at least one admin with a strong interest in cricket. - Everyone in WP:CRIC except you and me is an admin :-) Tintin (talk) 09:44, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

(blushes). I'll strike that. Thanks. --Dweller 09:45, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I've compiled a list at WT:CRIC. There are 19 out of 113 of us who are admins. Blnguyen | rant-line 03:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Nett weight and Net weight

You've made an assumption; I'd guess based on your country of origin.

Tomato, tomato, potato, potato? Let's call the whole thing off. --Dweller 09:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

To correct the numbers I put down on my own talk page: I found about 30,000 occurrences of "nett weight" and about 4,000,000 of "net weight". So the latter definitely wins that round. Michael Hardy 22:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I googled both spellings and found several hundred thousand occurrences of "nett" and tens of million of "net". Michael Hardy 18:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Deville's RfA

File:Scarlettanager99.jpg

Hello, Dweller, and thank you for the support on my recent RfA. The final tally was 72/1/0, and I have now been entrusted with the mop. I'll be tentative with the new buttons for a while, and certainly welcome any and all feedback on how I might be able to use them to help the project. And even though I'm not nearly the only admin with cricket interests, your sentiment is much appreciated in any case...=D All the best, and thanks again! — Deville (Talk) 00:39, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Grace (prayer)

I meant in the context of mealtime prayers, but I could be wrong...Andycjp 31st August 2006

The first paragraph of Grace after meals is traditionally ascribed by Jews to the authorship of Moses. Subsequent paragraphs are also attributed to various prophets who predate Christianity by some millenia. On a more factual, "citational" basis, by the time of the discussions recorded in the Mishna, with which the life of Jesus is roughly contemporaneous, Grace after meals (and indeed, the blessings before meals) is a well-established fact of Jewish life with some antiquity behind it. --Dweller 15:09, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Me, a stalker?!

Hey, thanks for reporting this guy. I found his diatribe amusing, and will continue to hunt him down every time he adds links to his crappy Geocities pages.. Budgiekiller 15:59, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Keefo

Hi, thanks for letting me know about the Keith O'Neill article. I'll see if I can dig out some more info for it. Remembering how big Keefo's ego was, I'm sure he'd me amazed too that he didn't have one on here and that he hadn't been a featured article! User:Demonicanglian

Mathias Svensson

I've set up a page for Svensson using the red link from the IF Elfsborg page. I don't have many career details for him, however. If there is anything you can add, feel free! User:Demonicanglian

Tractor does budgie

Hey, just add Daryl Sutch to the Wikipedia. It's a stub, but hopefully is a good start. Budgiekiller 16:06, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

My recent uses of VP

Thanks for your message, and I hope you can help me out - another view always helps. So, to my errors with VP. The warning to DemonicAnglian was a complete and total error that arose because of a hardware problem here, I had no intention of issuing any warning to him. If I had, I agree a t4 would be innapropriate. I think I can point to two mistakes with VP, and one complete mystery (The Truth about the Iditarod). If I'm making other mistakes, either in degree of warning or where no vandalism has taken place, then please tell me where they are and I will work out how they arose and how to avoid them in the future. Thanks again, Mr Stephen 14:23, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Editcount using Interiot's tool

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Total edits	2669
Distinct pages edited	905
Average edits/page	2.949
First edit	09:27, 16 September 2005
	
(main)	1188
Talk	266
User	141
User talk	534
Image talk	1
Category	1
Wikipedia	496
Wikipedia talk	39
Portal talk	3

Hello! This is your editcount using Interiot's tool. It works using Firefox, perhaps it doesn't like IE very much? (aeropagitica) 15:13, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Has anyone recently told you that you're a nice person? --Dweller 15:16, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

No, but that's made my day! Cheers (aeropagitica) 15:27, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi there. Thanks for picking up that issue yesterday re the VP. As I said to Mr Stephen on his talkpage, it all seems to be sorted now and hopefully it won't happen again, whatever caused it. All very bizarre! User:Demonicanglian

Re: Magic Cir

Dweller wrote:

Please will you review the tag I just placed on this article. I'm not 100% certain I've done the most appropriate thing and would value advice. --Dweller 10:37, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for tagging this article. I have moved it to Magic Circus as you suggested and re-tagged it for speedy deletion. In future, if you want to move a page (even if you think it may be about to be deleted), feel free to do so using the "move" link at the top of the article. Tagging the article was the most important thing, as it now shows up in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion and us administrators can deal with it – Gurch 10:42, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. --Dweller 10:44, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Steggla

Dealt with. The guy was quite persistent plus I forgot that deleting a page removed its protection which lead to him creating the article for a third time. Anyway, it's done and the page protected. Regards. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 12:57, 19 September 2006 (UTC) Thanks --Dweller 13:00, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Misc Desk

Hey! The text is at [5]. I suggest you search for "23 Mar 2004 : Column GC289" in the text, although the whole thing is interesting if you like that sort of thing. Good luck. --Skittle 15:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Associação

Hi there, I can´t see your point. What´s wrong with the article? Thanks! Tonyjeff 15:06, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I think you need to demonstrate that it's notable. --Dweller 15:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thanks, I couldn´t understand what is a speedy tag or a worked-on article. The article is notable because it is about the most important project to preserve the Transmontan bagpipe in Portugal - which had been almost vanished -, supported by many institutions like the Ministry of Culture. They do make a great effort with many projects, like classes and workshops. They have made valuable researches with old bagpipers which are dying, making these their last register. They promoted the most important bagpipe meeting in Portugal: the National Encounter of Bagpipers (Encontro Nacional de Gaiteiros), gathering even bagpipers from Scotland, Spain and France. It is really not just a self-promotional text, since it is a non-profitable organization; the intention is to show how important is to preserve the Transmontan bagpipe, and which efforts are being made. However, all of it is said on the article; how do you think I could make it better? Thanks. Tonyjeff 16:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Happy to help. I'll post to your talk page. --Dweller 17:58, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Dweller. I´m sure enough that the Bagpipe Association of Portugal is much more notable than The Hairy Hands Club, but I´m going to retrieve some informations, like quantity of members (not 1,000,000 I guess, but a relevant quantity) and midia coverage. As I have said, is the most important organization to the preservation of the Transmontan bagpipe, for the extense of its courses, workshops, researches and events promoted. In fact, maybe only by the Gaitafolia, the pipeband of the association, there is enough midia coverage. As soon as possible, maybe two days, I may gather some informations. Cheers. Tonyjeff 19:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi there, Dweller. I think I was able to gather some informations. The Association gahters actually around 200 effective members, and much more non-members. It has been covered by some important newspapers of Portugal, like Expresso, Público and Diário de Notícias. Their effort has been recognized by the government, receiving a subsidy from the Ministry of Culture to support their projects. The shows of their pipeband, the Gaitafolia, have been covered by some important media whereas it has been, like Spain and France. Their most important event, the Nation Encounter of Bagpipers, has gathered more than 8,000 people along its four years of existence, and has been covered by important media, like the newspapers already cited and TV channels like RTP and SIC. They are indeed the biggest movement to the preservation of the Transmontan bagpipe in Portugal, although they work toghether with other minor organizations. I sincerly think its notable enough to be in Wikipedia, since they have just seven years of existence and still growing. Tonyjeff 20:32, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Stick that in the article. Sounds excellent (apart from the 200 members, which is a bit weak!) --Dweller 21:07, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok Dweler, really thank you for your patience. Let´s make it better! =D Tonyjeff 01:15, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

The Henderson

Prod might be a better option.Geni 11:59, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but if they remove a speedy tag, how long will a prod last? --Dweller 12:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

NCFC

Well done for removing the rest of the vandalism on the page - I was sure I'd taken those other comments off as well, but obviously not..... User:Demonicanglian 09:22, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Paul Doktor

I removed your wikify tag as the article is a copyright violation speedy delete candidate. –– Lid^(Talk) 13:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough! --Dweller 13:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

CRIQ

Sorry. Adding one now. Tintin (talk) 12:17, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Edits by Demonicanglian

Hey, any idea where your fellow budgie is getting his info from? I'm beginning to become cautious that each article may be a copyvio, or he's a great transposer of biographies...! As for expert pen takers, what about expert pen savers (e.g. Paul Cooper)?!! Budgiekiller 19:57, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

If It's Notable...

Fine, then, but as I see it currently, the article is worthless. Expand, or save it for another day. I am a bit of a speedy-deletionist, and as the article is currently written, it's useless. And as it was first posted, it's vanity. Niki Whimbrel 19:43, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

As I didn't create the article (and in fact it was I that removed the daft advert) I'm not responsible for how Holman Fenwick & Willan began life. And I could hardly be expected to expand it in the time between my removing the speedy tag and you slapping it right back again. --Dweller 19:46, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Fine, fine. I'll back out. You have fun with it, and I'm sorry if I offended you. Niki Whimbrel 19:47, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Have another look - I think I've established notability now. --Dweller 19:50, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Nice job. Okay, you have fun now. Once again, sorry for any offense.Niki Whimbrel 19:34, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

PBHM

Fortuitously, the small matter on Mr May's bio took me off to Peter West where there was a nice picture of... Frank Bough. Ho hum. Johnlp 22:56, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Rencin24

Hey Dweller, Thanks a lot for helping me know certain things. I have done accordingly and now just wanted to inform you that I did delete that statements that I made aganist him. It would be nice of you if you gave me a reply and made me know who is he exactly.

David Eden

Not over the top, although I know what you mean. Looks like a stub worth saving. Rich Farmbrough, 22:47 5 October 2006 (GMT).

Thanks. --Dweller 22:48, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

DYK

On 7 October, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Summer of four captains, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Duke of Norfolk's XI

You're welcome. I can't claim huge personal knowledge, but with this sort of thing I've found the Scorecard Oracle on CricketArchive to be very useful in providing the bare bones. Loganberry (Talk) 16:08, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Your message

You likely have no idea just how much good messages like that do. It really cheered me up to know that my work had been noticed and appreciated. Thank you very much. --Guinnog 19:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Oh, no, I totally didn't mind! I'm so pleased with how various people stepped in and helped out when I was on Wikibreak. It's sad, but there few things that give me warm fuzzy feelings on WP, but this was one of them. Thanks! -- Merope ^Talk 20:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you very much for your support in my RfA, which passed on October 17, 2006 with a tally of 53/6/0. I am equally elated and humbled by my new capacity as administrator of Wikipedia, and I send my heartfelt thanks for your unflinching support. If you need me for anything, just ask me! With gratitude, 210physicq (c) 03:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Odd talk page

Dweller wrote:

Hi Gurch. Wondered if you'd cast an experienced eye over User talk:Crystal place? Seems to be being used for free advertising. I've removed contact details, but don't know if my warning message was totally out of line... or perhaps understated! --Dweller 07:44, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for removing the contact details; they were definitely inappropriate. Whether the rest of it counts as advertising, I'm not sure; it's not blatant but it's definitely not the intended purpose of a talk page. CSD G11 therefore doesn't really apply, but I'm sure you could get it deleted through MfD. It's up to you whether you think it's worth doing so – Gurch 07:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

CRIQ

Damn. Sorry. Tintin (talk) 12:21, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Malta? Messed up?

What do you mean by "I think something messed up with your visit to Malta!"? And by the way, I've not been to Malta, it says there I want to go to Malta. And the page looks fine to me. | AndonicO 15:07, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

If you visit the Malta article, you'll find that you've misrepresented Malta's name and its flag. --Dweller 15:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM) is the smallest official country on earth, according to the history channel. It is, just like the Vatican, in Rome. Occupying only one building, it is the only nation to have only one street in it's adress. They even showed the licence plate for their cars on TV. In order to become a citizen, you must be born there; there are only about 80 of them. Therefore, as you may expect, going to a place no one has ever heard of gives you bragging rights (especially if it's the tiniest country on the planet). | AndonicO 16:07, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

For following up with that user asking me about spam. I should probably take a break from editing--I find myself getting easily frustrated and impatient, and that's bad. Good thing you're around! -- Merope 17:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

A pleasure. We're all here to help each other with this thing. There's a heck of a lot of stuff you do that I simply can't, so thank you! --Dweller 17:10, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I am going to ask you for a teeny-weensy favor: can you archive your talk page? It's getting pretty cumbersome to navigate, especially since you're becoming more active. If you need any help, just ask. -- Merope 17:13, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah, yes. When I've got a mo, I'll take a look at how to do that. Thanks for the link. I'm aware that it's overlong <sheepish grin> --Dweller 17:16, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Adminship

Per your comment on my talk page, I am informing you that I've decided to run for adminship. The request is here. MER-C 11:11, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

edit counter

You asked about an edit counter before... try this one? --Interiot 17:17, 19 October 2006 (UTC)