Talk:Abyssinia, Henry

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An entry from Abyssinia, Henry appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 28 September, 2006.

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Review: October 12, 2006. (Reviewed version).

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Passed GA

Congratulations on getting this fine article up to GA standards. Just when I was despairing that anyone was doing anything useful or encyclopedic with episode articles, I found this gem. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 17:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agree completely. Fantastic use of sources. A model for other articles to follow.Michael Dorosh^Talk 21:21, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Failed GA

I have re-checked this article, and even though it is a GA in A Man In Black's view, it compares to the criteria in that way :

'1. Well written? Pass

2. Factually accurate? Pass

3. Broad in coverage? Pass

4. Neutral point of view? Pass

5. Article stability? Fail

6. Images? Fail

And for the reason that the article is not stable, it will fail the GA candidacy for now. Please re-nominate the article once the article has been present in WP for at least 1 week. Lincher 18:29, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I will do so. In terms of images however, I do not think that there are many relevant images to this specific article that are not copyrighted. To compare, Pilot (House) is now a GA and only has the one image. I will, however, clarify the fair use rationale on the current image's page. Thanks, Hotstreets 20:34, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP rules specifically state only one screenshot per article, so using a lack of images in order to fail an article for GS status strikes me as a bit absurd. If ever there was a GA, it was this one. Especially since the criteria linked to on this page state specifically "(b) a lack of images does not in itself prevent an article from achieving Good Article status. "Michael Dorosh^Talk 21:39, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fairly sure it was failed because of the lack of a fair-use rationale on the single image, not because of a lack of more images. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 21:43, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I forgot about that until after I submitted to GA. The image now has a fair use rationale almost completely matching the one from Pilot (House), since that is the only other GA television episode that I know of. I think the other reason it failed was, as mentioned, the new status of the article... when I read the GA criteria though, I interpreted stability to mean no controversy or edit wars going on, not that the article had to be in Wikipedia for a week first. Hotstreets 21:51, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Abyssinia?

Anyone have any knowledge about the show name? I'm at a loss at understanding what the "Abyssinia" in "Abyssinia, Henry" means. -- 19:22, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I believe it is a slang term for "I'll be seeing you", but I don't have a source right now for that. However, that might make for an interesting note in the article, so I will look that up. Hotstreets 21:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Abyssinia actually means Ethiopia. As to why the show is called Abyssinia, I don't know but perhaps it's just a word that sounds like it might mean 'In abscence' even if it doesn't?

Vietnam war

This article claims the series was meant to critique the Vietnam War. However the MASH article says:

Some said the series seemed to be an allegory for the Vietnam War (still in progress when the series began) rather than just about the Korean War,[citation needed] though the show's producers have said it was about war in general

These are not consistent and I suspect the MASH article is right (some people think the show was meant to critique the Vietname war but the producers just say it's about war in general) Nil Einne 22:53, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed that phrase for now; while the producers may have said that the show was about war in general, there were many comparisons or references to Vietnam on the show, and there are many sources that have come to the conclusion that the show was, for at least the first few years, a criticism of the Vietnam War and the American military at the time. I guess it all comes down to wording, though. Please let me know what you think. Hotstreets 23:40, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA passed

1. Well written? Pass

2. Factually accurate? Pass

3. Broad in coverage? Pass

4. Neutral point of view? Pass

5. Article stability? Pass

6. Images? Pass

Additional comments :

May I add a little idea that would help the article, if the development or the filming or the producing of the show would be mentioned in the article. What led to the TV serie would also be a plus to the article, meaning what came before that episode if the serie is a continuous one. To dramatize the final OR scene it would be nice to have a screencapture of that scene. Lincher 13:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]