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Continent

What made you think New Guinea was not part of the Australian continent ? Is Britain part of Europe ? Is Japan part of Asia ? Is Java part of Asia ? Are these continental islands part of their continent ? There is a schoolboy myth that 'Australia' the State occupies an entire continent and therefore anything not under control of the Commonwealth of Australia is not part of the continent, but that is a myth. 211.30.95.182 03:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC) Actually I apologise, I responded before reading the rest of the page; I can explain the reason you were not taught to include New Guinea as part of the continent; and that reason is money, or specifically the world's richest deposit of gold & copper in West Papua discovered in 1936 by Standard Oil by using a Dutch company and geology team as cover. As neither the indigenous people nor the Dutch would ever allow a US corporation to mine the sacred mountains of the Amungme people, the Rockefellers and other executives needed a new more US business friendly colonial power to claim West Papua; at the same time they wanted the oil from Sumatra & Borneo, and all sorts of mineral wealth; by supporting Sukarno's claim to be the leader of Java they got his 'Republic' included in the 1949 Federation of the 'United States of Indonesia' which within 8 months fell prey to Sukarno's military and were claimed as part of the 'Republic of Indonesia'; it took 13 to 16 more years but the U.S. executives eventually got access to the wealth of Asia and northern Australia that they had wanted. The confusion about Papua, so that people cant even agree what to call the country; is so that the pass 40 years of genocide in West Papua went unreported in the global media while they keep digging up the gold & copper. Rockefeller and Ford Foundations are the main academic backers to support anything to add confusion and misinformation to discredit West Papuan demands for a end to the ethnic cleansing.211.30.95.182 03:43, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for this interesting but depressing history lesson. Yes, as I say, considering the Commonwealth of Australia to occupy the whole continent is geologically and biologically flawed. However, isn't the same true of splitting Eurasia in two? Yes, that is what I was taught. If what you write is true, then it's a shame we were taught such things. But, of course, that's what we have been taught and isn't there some degree of conventionality involved when defining a continent? Yes, it's better to include not only New Guinea (the whole NG, of course, not just PNG) but the other Australasian islands but is this what the World considers to be the continent? Jimp 20Jan06

Pluto's not appearing

Thanks. I don't know why I didn't pick that up earlier :-) ptkfgs 06:32, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. Jimp 06:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IPA/"KPA" order

Hi Jim,

If you're going to go through and reorder the IPA vv the pronunciation respellings, could you italicise parentheses and other punctuation marks as you go? It's a lot of extra work otherwise to clean up the formatting.

Thanks, kwami 16:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, if I'm doing this I will but, y'know, I don't think I'm up for going through and reordering a whole bunch. Hey, Kwami, why do you change the order of the stress marks? I mean, we don't mark stress explicitely in English orthography so why not just stick with the IPA's style and put them at the beginning of the syllable? Jimp 17:03, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Just following the dictionary convention. I also don't have the bandwidth to make many changes right now. kwami 18:21, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

American punctuation???

Re your recent edit to Melbourne - I was puzzled by your edit summary, which implied that a comma, for example, within the quotation marks was 'American'. I too happen to prefer the comma outside ... it seems more logical, however I'm pretty sure that at least in older editions of the Australian government Style Manual it was specified that commas should go inside the quotes. I don't have any copies with me to allow me to verify this. The labelling of this style of punctuation as 'American' also struck me as a bit antagonistic. Stumps 07:20, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the detailed reply. When I get back 'home' to Australia — if I remember — I'll try to find the old Style Manual just for interest's sake. Maybe I'm mistaken where I read that recommendation that commas etc go inside the quotes, but wherever it was it stuck in my mind precisely because I didn't like it. Cheers. Stumps 07:04, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've been working in Warsaw for a few years. Stumps 09:18, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling of millimetre/millimeter

Hi,

Obviously you care about the spelling. Please note that the notice that you change on Swedish krona will be replaced by these 2 templates {{Standard coin table notice}}, {{Standard banknote table notice}}. A global solution must come to term. What do you think about making a parameter to the template like british_english = Y to override millimeter with millimetre? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 01:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It will have to have a default value. I will make millimeter the default value since English language claims that 2/3 of the native speaks are from the U.S.A. What do you suggest for the parameter name. british_english may be politically inappropriate. What about Commonwealth_English? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 04:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I am in complete agreement with you. I will stick with the orignal proposal british_english. Commonwealth is too long to type. As long as the output value is correct, I really don't care what the default value is. Ultimately, we the editors should cater to the readers. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 05:54, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I can do BrE. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 06:23, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

anon redirect to userpage

Dear Jimp,

I just want to let you know that 210.138.233.26 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) redirect the userpage of that IP to your userpage: [1]. If that is your IP, than it is understandable, if it is not, you might want to revert that redirect. --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 08:51, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. 210.138.233.26 is me thus the redirect.

Entering IPA

Thanks. DTOx 11:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]