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the passage of Quetzalcoatl -- as a personification of Venus -- through the underworld

Somehow I don't think Venus was a part of Mesoamerican beliefs. --Ptcamn 10:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will have to disagree, Venus (the planet) figures rather prominently in pre-Columbian Mesoamerican texts (mainly Postclassic, but also earlier), imagery and mythological associations. A number of Mesoamerican deities, such as the central mexican Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli (roughly "lord of the dawn") have a primary association with Venus, and the Borgia along with several other central mexican codices illustrate the baleful effects linked with the periods of Venus' heliacal rising. Quetzalcoatl is in some texts linked with Venus, such as in the early Colonial Anales de Cuauhtitlan in which Quetzalcoatl is reborn from a funerary pyre as Tlahiuzcalpantecuhtli.
I think that that sentence in the article was paraphrasing some particular commentary's interpretation, which while not necessarily the only possible one, has a degree of validity. Unfortunately it's not clear which particular commentary this appears in. For the moment, I'll restore the text, but agree that it would be better to have an explicit cite for that interpretation. Will see if it can be tracked down, might take awhile before getting round to it. Regards,--cjllw | TALK 00:28, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, sh*t. I should've thought that through. --Ptcamn 04:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]