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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Saxifrage (talk | contribs) at 07:07, 26 December 2004 ("NAFTA Plus / The Future"). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

As I recall, the Canada-U.S. part of NAFTA started around 1990. 1994 was when Mexico was brought into the mix. Kingturtle 22:42 Apr 15, 2003 (UTC)

Copyright notice from the NAFTA Secretiat site. There was a suggestion on the article page that all the data on that site is free. It is pretty free, but thought I'd put a link to their copyright notice so you can judge, if you wish, if its GFDL compatible. Pete 10:33, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)

perscription drugs

U.S. citizens go to canada to buy the same drugs at a cheaper price. And it is considered illegal to do so. But doesn't NAFTA say there is free trade? Kingturtle

NAFTA does not establish absolute free trade, there are many exceptions (health care and culture for example)

04:30, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

NAFTA facts

I'm not sure the best way to incorporate the items in this list into this article. But here are some "facts" I scraped off the net concerning NAFTA.

  • NAFTA was originally a Republican initiative.
  • First advanced as an idea by Ronald Reagan in his presidential campaign of 1980.
  • In one of his last acts as President, Bush (41) signed the completed agreement on December 17, 1992, and forwarded it to Congress, where it awaited the new President.
  • 08 December 1993 President Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law
  • On November 8, 1994, George W. Bush (43) was elected to the first of his two terms as Governor of Texas. As governor he supported NAFTA. --Buster 07:29, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

NAFTA was pushed in with Canada at the height of it's right wing politics with Mulroney and with Reagan, you figure out what the agenda of this damn thing is. Roley

You clearly have no idea what economics are about if you think George W. Bush supports free trade. Conservatives have always been traditionally protectionist and the current American administration is the best example. The problem with NAFTA is not that it's "too much" for free trade, on the contrary it has too many exceptions which are a disadvantage to Mexican producers (e.g. massive agriculture subsidies to benefit American farmers). If you looked around the net with more objective eyes you would see other interesting "facts" like that the current Canadian Liberal governement supports the agreement (it opposed it but changed its mind after seeing the positive effects on employment) as well as most of the provinces, including Quebec which is usually not the first pushing the Republican "agenda".

GDP

"NAFTA Plus / The Future"

I'm removing this section. "NAFTA Plus" is a proposition of Mexico's President Vicente Fox that has limited support in the USA and virtually none in Canada. [1], [2], [3]

(IMHO, there's actually negative support for it in Canada, which has always been wary of becoming the "51st state" of the USA.)

Not only that, but the text is a copyvio [4] of an article in The National Post of Canada, which is a notably right-wing newspaper. (The original article is no longer online.)

Perhaps a total rewrite is in order (I notice there is a better-written version in History, but it's still factually incorrect) that would explain Fox' take on this. However, this suggestion of his about NAFTA is a non-event except for the political and public reaction to his audacity in suggesting it without consulting the rest of NAFTA. So, not being encyclopedic at all, I think removal is best. — Saxifrage | ☎ 07:07, Dec 26, 2004 (UTC)

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