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You edited both of these articles to say that racing shells are semi-displacement hulls and not limited by hull speed. Do you have any sources to back that up? I'm not sure that racing shells approach wave propogation speed, and if so, whether or not they move into semi-displacement mode at that point is moot, as they'll always be operating in the displacement mode. I'm going to do some research and see if I can find stats on LWL and speed of racing shells to see what sort of speed/length ratios they operate in. Ditto for racing canoes and kayaks. scot 20:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, found some info on racing shells. Vespoli shows their 8-shells running 56' to 58' OAL, which works out to a hull speed of 10 to 10.2 knots, assuming the LWL is not significantly shorter. This paper puts 8-shells speeds at about 5.5 m/s. That's 10.7 knots, so while wave drag may be less than 20% of the drag (based on the fact that skin drag is 80% according to the paper cited) it sounds like the hull may well be limited by hull speed--else why bother making it 56' long? Additional length just adds more surface area to create more skin drag. scot 20:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I replied to your response on my talk page. scot 15:01, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If you're interested in some of the AYRS towing tank tests of the long, thin hulls I have a copy someone scanned in and sent me. E-mail me at fluzwup at yahoo dot com and I'll forward it to you. And I just read that NY Times article yesterday, and was bemoaning to a friend the lack of a good, cheap, inboard diesel generator/outboard electric hybrid kicker motor for my sailboat. Something that would give you the instant on/off and quiet operation when running off batteries for low speed work, and the ability to fire up the diesel for extended running time and extra amps. I used a stern mount trolling motor on my old 13 foot pocket cruiser, and it was great except for that time I took it out in the 25-35 knot winds--it wouldn't even prevent leeway with the boat pointed straight into the wind, with the mast bare. With the 21 footer I picked up this summer (which, BTW, ended the drought in Oklahoma--never did get it on the water) I'm torn between the 3hp MinnKota electric motor I got for it and the 6hp Evinrude outboard it came with. scot 20:56, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What are you talking about?

Says it all really. You recklessly acuse me of flaming you when I don't even know you. And I have the proof...

"I go to a Wikipedia article Standard Model and before I can log on I have this message from you.

The IP address I logged onto is floating and assigned by the server (along with maybe several million other people who use the same system.) I was not amused to unreasonably be subject to your rant:

"Moronator, you amuse us all with your stupidity."

I say go look in a mirror."

I say 'Not until you do'. I mean, to acuse someone of flaming someone else he doesn't know...I've never heard of you before, anyway.

Editor's note: The person who wrote the above, User:CBFan, flamed several dynamic IPs not realizing that his messages were going to people other than his intended victims. I was an innocent party who got his flame and was upset. I complained (maybe a bit too hard) and pointed out his error, and this is his response.

Just so you know, the flames I was sending were to people (idiots) who were continually posting nonsense on the Zoo Tycoon 2: Dino Danger Pack. People with nothing better to do with their life. Not you, obviously (or I'd like to hope you're not that kind of person).