Talk:Cubicle

Bold textC'mon, somebody should be able to illustrate this! I would, but I work from home, no cubicles to be seen. :-) Stan 19:21, 23 Oct 2003 (UTC)

My intention is to eventually do small shape illustrations off all of the desk forms I am entering in Wikipedia, but I must admit that the cubicle desk illustration (or illustrations) is extremely low in my order of priority since it is one of the most boring ones. The interesting things about the cubicle desk do not come out well in a small outline illustration. On the other hand, a small caricature of the cubicle desk would be fun, but I am unfortunately not a good caricaturist. Alain V.

There is no product called A Cubicle Desk.

L K Tucker This article misses the main feature of a cubicle, Cubicle Level Protection. Cubicles were the industry standard once the discovery of a conflict of physiology was made in the 1950's.

Manufacturer's are unwilling to reply or discuss this. I encountered this problem as a freshman engineering student in 1961/62.

The design features of Cubicle Level Protection prevent the occupant "Subliminally Seeing" movement to trigger peripheral vision reflexes. In a correctly designed Cubicle the occupant is positioned so that every thing they can see with peripheral vision is stationary.

If you have information or the name and date of the psychology, or civil engineering paper on this email me through VisionAndPsychosis.Net. Use any email link on the site.

If you know a designer or engineer willing to write an article for my site have them email me. ___________

L K Tucker 10/14/04 -- I returned to correct any errors I made in the re-write of the "Cubicle Desk" article. I find that the article has been reverted to the original incorrect text.

There is no "Cubicle Desk." It does not exist.

The author of this article has innocently crossed into an area where he or she has no expertise or knowledge.

Cubicles are a subset of Systems Furniture. Cubicles are designed to combat a problem of physiology discovered by the designers and engineers who built the first close-spaced workstations in the late 1950's.

The best course would be to remove the entire article and refer visitors to a correct article on Cubicles.

I can be reached by visiting my site http://VisionAndPsychosis.Net. The site is about the conflict of physiology not cubicles. But my Modern Cubicle page links you to the manufacturers where you can see the protective designs. There will be no mention of Cubicle Level Protection on manufacturer's sites. The manufacturers will not discuss this problem.

To verify this you must reach a design engineer. Sales or office staff at the dealers for these manufacturer's will not be aware of the problem.

Can you cite articles or books which talk about this? I have references for everything I have written in this article, right at the bottom of the page. And there are more, in the architecture magazines and office layout books I have read over the last years. --AlainV 00:04, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

YOU ARE JOKING, RIGHT?

VisionAndPsychosis.Net is the citation. You will find links to the sources I use there.

You can verify this information by speaking to someone who teaches first semester psychology. Have them explain Subliminal Sight to you. Notice in the two pictures you used the computer work position faces into the corner and the worker's back is to the door.

The reference to the engineering discovery will be a statement like, "Subliminal Sight caused a problem in the early days of modern office design."

Phone any dealer for a Office Furniture manufacturer and ask to speak to the designer or engineer. Have that person explain Cubicle Level Protection and the need for it.

The dissociative mental break that is recognized appears as a short episode that resolves with no treatment.

I learned about this problem as an engineering student over forty years ago. I sat in a psychology lecture, 1990, where the phenomenon was explained.

You can also search civil engineering course abstracts for a course in Systems Furniture Design and call that instructor.

I FOUND THIS IDENTICAL ARTICLE on a site for a newsletter "Systems Furniture?"

I sent an email to that contact person but got no reply. If you are that person you should have contacts to verify this psychiatric injury exists.

YOU ARE CORRECT in that you will not find this anywhere else on the Internet. The manufacturers will not talk about this. Would you want to defend a lawsuit every time someone has a headache while using your product?

One of the main reasons my site exists is there is little knowledge of this problem. If almost no one is aware of the problem why would you expect to easily find information about it anywhere?

This is not secret information but you will only find it in the places I suggested above. I wrote several schools of architecture. None of the instructors in the departments were aware of the design requirement. Unless the student takes the course on Systems Furniture they would be unaware of the problem.

The Cubicle replaced the Desk. There is no product called a "Cubicle Desk.

If you have seen an article identical to this one in a newsletter called "systems furniture" then it is a copy with which I have absolutely no connection. If your site is the only existing source on the Internet for what you advance, then it is not sufficient authority. Once again, do you have other references? These do not have to be on the Internet, they can be articles or books. In the publications on office furniture which I have consulted there is no mention of what you are talking about. Look at it this way: All the Web sources and the published sources I have consulted during the last three years make absolutely no mention of your theory. It might be true, and I must admit it certainly sounds plausible, on the surface, but if everybody else says something else than you concerning the origins of the cubicle, then how are we to know that they are all wrong and that you are right? --AlainV 01:23, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)