User talk:Adam Carr

Me at Ayutthaya, Thailand, where I am currently travelling

The temple of the Golden Mount in Bangkok

Merdeka Square in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

If you get a chance, would you be able to give Ralph Willis some work? It could really do with the Adam Carr touch. Ambi 06:56, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

on your last post on the gough whittlam talk page. on your web page, senate vacancy 103 appears rather odd. it appears you made an error, replacing jeanie ferris with jeanie ferris. cheers Xtra 11:11, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

ok. Xtra 05:58, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I fixed the table errors, for reference see: m:Help:Table

-- Curps 22:08, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thought you might be interested in Willem Arondeus. Danny 12:36, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Bob Matsui

I have nominated Bob Matsui for Collaboration of the Week. Please help support the article's nomination. -- AllyUnion (talk) 07:09, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Jacob Israël de Haan

It would be troublesome to declare this fellow a gay icon, so the choice for the Homomonument remains unclear. Of course his first novel (which I admit I have not read) has strong homosexual overtones, but a lot of his later lifestyle is circumstantial. I'm convinced the rabbis in Amsterdam chose not to inform their Jerusalem counterparts of De Haan's past. JFW | T@lk 14:41, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thailand meetup I noticed in one of your comments that you are in Thailand now. If so please come to our meepup on saturday the 15th (Wikipedia:Thailand-related topics notice board) or give me a call on: 01 343 7918 (mobile) or 02 691 1280 (home) Waerth 02:16, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Great picture I just wanted to say that I love this picture that you took. That is all :) →Raul654 22:02, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)

"beloved" Princess Ubol Rattana

Kind Sir. You are in Thailand now. Look around you. The iconography of the Thai Royal Family that surrounds you everywhere is not a manifestation of meglomania on the part of Adulyadej and his kin, rather it is the product of deep adoration of the royals by the Thai people. The depth of this adoration is perhaps difficult for Westerners to understand. It goes far beyond the "love" one might feel for their Prime Minister or President or the "love" a citizen of the United Kingdom might feel for Queen Elizabeth. The Thai Royal Family is our Royal Family. We love them like we love our own families. Before you chose to strip the word "beloved" from before Ubol's name again, please ask some of the Thai people sitting around you whether or not Ubol is "beloved." (Anon user)

That may well be true, although the reading of Thai history also tells me that the cult of the Royal Family was at least in part manufactured by past Thai military governments as a means of bolstering their legitimacy. But whether it is true or not, it is unencyclopaedic to put the term "beloved" in front of someone's name in an article. It would be legitimate to say at the Ubol Rattana Rajakanya article that "Ubol Rattana is beloved by the Thai people" if that is your view. Adam 05:39, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Are governors politicians?

Hi Adam,

SimonP has put Arthur Lawley and Arthur Kennedy (Australian governor) in the Australian politicians category. My take on this is that the position of governor is not liable to be vacated on political grounds, and the governor is obliged to be apolitical in his or her views, so therefore the governor is not a politician. But I'm not entirely confident in my view, so I'd like your opinion please.

Drew Devereux 05:50, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Wikicode in your user page

You might be interested in changing:

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as the latter syntax is considered easier to read & modify by many,

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to:

as templates improve uniformity in messages across the 'pedia and also have less chance of giving the false impression to newbies that you don't want them to edit the article at all,

{{PD}} Photo by [[User:Adam Carr]]

to

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as that makes it clearer that you are the copyright holder and also makes it easier to track PD-self images. Thanks! -- Paddu 11:57, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Adam, like all of us fallable human beings, you are sometimes guilty of throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Take my recent edits to Arthur Fadden, for instance. We might debate the merits of including the fact that he was born and died on Easter Saturday, although for my part I think this is a fascinating bit of trivia that I discovered all by myself, and I know a lot of people would find it at least amusing. But I'm prepared to leave it out, for now.

However, what on earth is a "Presbyterian police officer"? Since when do these types of facts go together? Is a Presbyterian police officer significantly different from, say, a Methodist police officer? His father's religion might be relevant if it would automatically follow that Artie himself was a Presbyterian. But it doesn't. I don't know whether Artie himself adhered to the Presbyterian teachings or not, but if he did, this is a fact about Artie in his own right, and it should be stated as such specifically. I leave it you to make the necessary change since you seem to be the self-appointed owner of all knowledge about Australian politicians.

Further, I corrected "asistant [SIC] Town Clerk" to "Assistant Town Clerk" - that's one spelling error, and one capitalisation of a part of a title. Both of these were entirely necessary. Please explain why this was "unhelpful".

Yours in anguish (oh, and Happy New Wikiyear) [[User:JackofOz|JackofOz] 05:22, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I think I'm missing something here, my friend. How come the joke about Fadden "reigning for 40 days and 40 nights" (as witty as this is), and the bit about him living quietly after retirement, and the fact that his father was apparently a member of the Church Police, are all so terribly important to his life and impact on the world, when my contributions are just so much trivia deserving of instant deletion? This sort of debate crops up all the time, but I'm going to ask the question yet again. Who is the final arbiter of what is "important" information, and what is "trivial"? And even if something is universally regarded as trivia, so what? Abraham Lincoln's page (to name one of many) even has a special section for "Trivia". These are precisely the sorts of tidbits that bring otherwise dry prose to life.

Maybe the Yanks wouldn't know what a treasurer is, but most anybody else in the world with a minimum of English would. Would you describe the British counterpart as the "Chancellor of the Exchequer (finance minister)"? And besides, Australia for the last 25 years has had both a Treasurer AND a Finance Minister - so using the "finance minister" terminology to explain what a treasurer is, is potentially confusing and misleading. I know there was no "Finance Minister" in Fadden's day, but that's beside the point. This is unnecessary pandering to the perceived ignorance of others, and once you start, if you're going to be consistent, where on Earth do you stop? Better not to start, I say.

Now what about "Minister for Air"? I always thought this was a dumb title for the person running the RAAF and civil aviation, but at least I know that's what it was. However to unsuspecting 21st century ears, this sounds like the person ensuring the air we breathe is of an acceptable quality, or maybe even the guy in charge of making sure all new cars have air-conditioning (because saying "air-conditioning" seems to have become old-hat, and now it's just apparently "air"). So if you absolutely need to explain "Treasurer", then SURELY you need to explain this beauty too. JackofOz 13:14, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

OK, Adam, you and CBurdett have made your points, and I will gladly withdraw my contributions.

I was also wondering, when you say you're not responsible for the Abe Lincoln page, are you suggesting that there are some pages for which you ARE responsible? Cheers JackofOz 23:07, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Just chiming in with correct spelling of my username. :) Cburnett 23:35, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Adam, why did you remove the references section from the Mark Latham article?! See [1] - Ta bu shi da yu 00:32, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Mate i don't like it either and i've agreed with you on this issue ever since you pointed out that it wasn't an official title - despite what the Parliamentary Library purported to claim - but the Wiki PTB seem to have decided that "Father of the Australian House of Representatives" should be what is referred to (as they have unfortunately done on the main Father of the House page) To forstall someone moving your List of longest-serving members of the Australian House of Representatives to that non-existent title i created succession boxes with the seemingly preferred but false "FOTAHOR" but linking to your article - someone else would have moved your article to the false title - until you could talk to the Wiki PTB and fix things up. I was only trying to help but seem to have ended up causing trouble for which i apologise. PMA 21:26, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your good additions & corrections on the Myanmar tsunami page! However, please note that a dictatorship and political instability are not mutually exclusive. ;) Zosodada 04:26, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC) PS: My take on the "stability" issue (which was not the best choice of words, but which I will defend in sport) is that the regime's tactics suggest a defensive tact; this defensiveness implies an air of instability within the regime. Particularly in regard to the human consequences of the natural distaster, any intentional playing down of the damage further implies that the regime fears that this incident might provide an environment that is contrary to their aims -- a situation that may lead to change. Zosodada 19:30, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Powers That Be - the kind of people on here we both have trouble with - POVers, nationalists, pedants etc etc. Sorry about the Commonwealth Opposition Leader thing with Latham but i had seen you correcting "Federal" positions with Commonwealth in other article and i thought it applied to this as well - one of the problems with having an autism spectrum disorder is that i sometimes take things too literately. Again i apologise. PMA 23:34, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks mate you're good to me PMA 10:50, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Bangkok

You are still welcome to call me anytime to meet up if you are here. 01 343 7918 Waerth 11:02, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)