Talk:Munich massacre: Difference between revisions

An event mentioned in this article is a September 5 selected anniversary.

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"This was later confirmed in a U.S. documentary by a Palestinian guerrilla involved in the massacre." Refers this to "One day in September"? I thought "One day in September" was a german-, swiss-, uk-production and not a U.S-documentary.

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Were the three Sept. members killed by Mossad or just those involved in the Oct. hijacking? --rmhermen

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NPOV query: Why is there a "Munich massacre" (2 Israelis, 1 policeman and 5 Palestinians dead) but no "Jenin massacre" ("at least 52 Palestinians, of whom up to half may have been civilians, and 23 Israeli soldiers" dead UN Report)?

11 Israelis dead. See also Talk:Jenin --Uri

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(A documentary film about the event, 2000's One Day In September has alleged collusion between the German government and the terrorists with respect to this hijack, to prevent their mishandling of the affair being revealed at the suspects' trial).

I've seen that film, and it you suck as collusion; it was presented as a typical snafu. Furthermore, unless you are one of the filmmakers or the filmmakers have been very naive and open about their intentions, you're really not on solid ground speculating about their motivations. --KQ 10:41 Sep 18, 2002 (UTC)

I've also seen it, and I don't think it was presented as snafu. In fact, the head of GSG-9, general Ulrich K Wegener, was interviewed and admitted that "The Germans probably cooperated with the Palestinans regarding the October hijacking." The plane had only 12 passengers, none of them were women or children. The hijackers' demands were met without consulting the Israelis. I think we could state that in the article. -Guppie, Sep 18, 2002.

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The documentary also stated that Jamal Al Gashey, one of the Munich killers, is still alive today, presumably living anonymously with his wife and two daughters in Africa. That does not match with the article... -Guppie, Sep 18, 2002.

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Terminal reprisal seems to me to be an euphemism that has no place in an encyclopaedia entry, at least not uncommented. --Laca 17:47, 23 May 2004 (UTC)

Pirate?

A new edit says that Mahmoud Abbas is a convicted pirate, and is now dead. I can't find anything to confirm this. Is it true, or should I remove it? Quadell (talk) 18:37, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)

Secret Security Agents within the Olympic Team

I read some where that two of the coaches were in fact security officers there to protect the team. Has anyone else know of this fact or seen any information like this before?

Why is there a link to a nonexisting image in the article? File:Munich helicopter crime scene.jpg

Has it been deleted? Fuelbottle | Talk 14:04, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

NPOV edit

This article has been revised to represent a neutral point of view:

• "Terrorist" replaced by "kidnapper",
• The (too) numerous rants and outrage about the police sloppiness were reduced to matter-of-fact statements.
• Some facts were revised to state what the Israeli Report linked actually says.
• The unsubstantiated speculation of one person about Abbas' financing role has been removed.
• The unsubstantiated Israeli speculation that Germans later released 3 as a cover up was removed.
• Attributions have been made where the source of claim is obvious.

HistoryBuffEr 05:00, 2004 Nov 10 (UTC)