User talk:Lisiate

Hello there Lisiate, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you ever need editing help visit Wikipedia:How does one edit a page and experiment at Wikipedia:Sandbox. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump. Cheers! --maveric149

Well done on getting the 100,000th article, Lisiate! That's quite an honour. :) (See my talk page.) -- Oliver PEREIRA 04:07 Jan 21, 2003 (UTC)

Congratulations from me, too!

Your article is already featured on the German wikipedia's internal news page, and if you manage to find out the number of inhabitants of Hastings until 10am GMT, I'll also create a German article about it today :-P.

Best regards from Singapore --zeno 04:11 Jan 21, 2003 (UTC)

Cheers for that, kind of flukey doing my old home town just in time really... Zeno, the current population (according to populations.com) is 59,432. I'll add this to the page now.

Hi, regarding your question on the deleting of information placed on wiki by banned user, the answer is simple. Their stuff is deleted. The bottom line is that for people like DW, Michael et al, their ability to participate is one of the main motivations they have for continually coming back. It is part of an ego trip on their behalf. From experience it has been found that the most effective way of getting the message through to them that they are not wanted is to systematically and thoroughly delete what they write. As long as their work remains it acts as a magnet for them to say 'look. You banned me and I still am here and you still have my articles'. In DW's case, his identities constantly come back to work on the same articles; indeed we can almost identify the lastest DW troll by watching which pages a 'new' user goes to and follow their usage of DW's style of writing.

It can be frustrating having to delete good material, but it is a small price to pay if it achieves the effect of getting rid of a particular multiple banned user. Remember once banned, a user has no right to return to contribute. In some cases these people return 5, 10, 15 times as 'new' illegal identities. While their content may be good (except in Michael's case where he deliberately puts in deliberate fiction among the fact) they cause chaos all around, threaten and bully users and almost bring wiki to a standstill. (DW is currently supposing taking me to court for defamation because I stood up to him, or rather his phoney identity Joe Canuck!) Unless Wiki can get rid of cancers like DW, Michael, Adam etc they will ultimately destroy wiki. That is no exagguration; DW downloaded hordes of probably copyright images, all of which could have got wiki into serious legal troubles that might have required its shutdown, while Michael used the name of a rock band member as part of his vandalism, again opening up the prospect of possible legal action by that rock band member for defamation (he didn't just use the name but claimed to be that man!), and indeed by some rockbands he pretended to be. While deleting text has not stopped DW and Michael yet, Michael is now much less trouble and by going ballistic when he finds his stuff has been dumped, he makes himself instantly recognisable. It is an unfortunate but necessary way of bringing these characters under control and clearly and unambiguously sending an unambiguous message to them from wikipedia to f*** off, in the knowledge that all the hours they spend on wiki are wasted as everything they do is reverted, deleted or dumped en masse. Hopefully (eventually!) the futility of their coming back to wiki will sink in. FearÉIREANN 23:31 2 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Lisiate, thanks for your encouragement. When I started I knew very little about the Maori Wars either apart from the first one, we lived near one to the battlefields so it was unavoidable, but I have been reading and digesting and trying to make sense of the different accounts. In many ways it is quite painful, Being an ex pom I am very proud of New Zealand but it is hard to be of things like the Invasion of the Waikato. So it has been a real learning experience

Cheers Ping 08:24 30 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I was about to email you to ask about Utu. I can only remember it vaguely and the scene I do remember seems to relate more to Volkner's murder rather than Te Kooti, perhaps the Director took a very flexible view of NZ history. Any help is appreciated. Ping 09:22 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Let's wait until one of us has seen the movie again, for me it was twenty year ago so it is very vague. Ping 09:30 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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People editing in the Maori Wikipedia - http://mi.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=HomePage - are encouraged to add the following (which appears THERE with macrons, not ASCII) to the top and bottom of each page (until we can organise something equivalent that sits outside the text box - hint, ANYBODY, PLEASE?):

<!-- copy from these: Ā ā Ē ē Ī ī Ō ō Ū ū (and add this whole "hidden comment" to top and bottom of new pages) -->

Robin Patterson 06:16, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I've now added an editing bar that sits just below the Maori WP's edit box; Lisiate, you may move this whole contribution to your Talk page if you like. (But I hope you have a look at the current state of the Maori version while you are at it - over 40 articles written by someone who barely understands any of the language!) Robin Patterson 03:16, 18 May 2004 (UTC)

Maori TV is saying it's going to show "Utu" soon. :Robin Patterson 22:39, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I saw it last night, and the first scene was apparently set in 1870 so it's probably too late to be based on Te Kooti, still a good watch though. Lisiate 22:39, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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Dear Lisiate, i have a present for you:

http://www.livius.org/le-lh/legio/legions.htm

Have fun! Muriel Gottrop 11:18, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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Dear Lisiate, it's always nice to know that i'm an inspiration, particulary on Roman affairs: a topic that tends to bore to death all my family and friends. I just posted another legion - Legio III Augusta. I'm going on wonderfull holidays :) tomorrow. In the meantime if you find something interesting let me know. I'm planning a list of Roman civil wars and rebellions. What about that? Cheers, Muriel Gottrop 18:06, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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Thanks for the recent disambiguation. I'm sure we will meet again here from time to time.

robinp 21:27, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Yes, less than 2 months later! (I'm glad you saw UTU too.) Thanks for the ideas about where to seek help on boilerplate matters. I dropped it into your macrons paragraphs in case some kind soul EITHER interested in macrons OR scanning the "Recent Changes" might jump in and offer. I know very little about doing things outside the textboxes; but "they" made me a sysop on the "mi:" (bringing the number to 4) and I've poked around a bit. No hurry for this one - my top-and-bottom system works fine for me. Kind regards (and don't forget to keep an eye on New Zealand matters!) - Robin Patterson 01:12, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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Hi Lisiate, I noted you VfD tagged New zealand cycling history which I think would be better speedy deleted. Have a look at Kennett Bros too. Looks like this anon may be deliberately getting some free advertising. It should be a speedy too IMMHO. Moriori 23:49, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)

I've added some wikification after the original submitter cleaned it up a bit. It still needs work, but I'd like to ask you to give it another read and reconsider your vote. Articles that need work aren't neccesarily deletion material. Thanks for your time.