Talk:Pathological jealousy: Difference between revisions

Morbid Jealousy is the most obvious result on google

I'll go on a move. It's all in good faith. --fs 19:04, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I've added content to the article

I changed the gender differences section to an overall epidemiology section and expanded on the information provided. I've also added information about the assessment aspect of diagnosis and how it begins to treat the issue. In addition to those two, I have also added some information on how to manage the behavior. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mshepha (talk • contribs) 20:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, good job! However, I removed the information based on a 20 person's sample - this is a very specific group, all were in hospitals or locked forensic psychiatric facilities, the sample was made in 1998 and consists only of 20 people. There is no way of knowing if the results of this sample can be generalized to other people suffering from morbid jealousy. We would need secondary sources instead. With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 22:34, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Just sticking above on this page. Can easily see both sides. Seemed spot on target for this article but agree n=20 isn't huge. Still a valuable ref from a top refereed journal, on target, so I put it here.

There were 20 cases of morbidly jealous cases sampled and studied in California. The results determined that average age at onset of psychosis was 28 years, however, morbidly jealous behaviors developed an average of 10 years later. Out of the 20 cases studied, 19 of the jealous persons were male. Eighty per cent of the jealous individuals were married and living in the same household as their spouses. The ethnicity of the sample was representative of the ethnicity of the population to control for the variable of ethnicity affecting the prevalence of morbid jealousy in any particular race.

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Rick (talk) 17:07, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Iago

This seems like a misnamed behaviour. Othello was very cleverly deceived by Iago. The evidence he saw (Iago's confirmation, the handkerchief, overheard conversations, Desdemona's own actions) did seem to support his fear that she had been unfaithful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.6.206.67 (talk) 09:44, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Pathological controlling

This article (or maybe the "morbid jealousy" concept itself) may be at least in part misconceived. It may be part of the broader dynamic of an abuser obsessed with controlling someone else for an abusive purpose - see Isolation to facilitate abuse and Power and control in abusive relationships. So the obsession may be more about control in general and just using the delusion that partner is unfaithful may just be some deep rooted rationalisation that may be used in some circumstances. Also why should it just be a delusion about unfaithful partners, why not an unfounded jealousy in other contexts such as narcissistic jealousy. --Penbat (talk) 11:12, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Pathological jealousy

Pathological jealousy is a better title as in eg pathological lying.--Penbat (talk) 12:23, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

"Morbid jealousy" is just one type of possible pathological jealousy but it almost entirely monopolises this article.--Penbat (talk) 16:37, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Suspicious jealousy versus reactive jealousy

Article currently only deals with suspicious jealousy where unfaithfullness did not really occur instead of reactive jealousy which is a response to actual unfaithfullness.--Penbat (talk) 20:17, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Obsessional jealousy

Ideally obsessional jealousy should be merged here but first the sprawling existing content here needs to be radically trimmed. --Penbat (talk) 19:06, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Tagging

Many of the passages in this article are not encyclopedic, and removing them would leave the article bare. Here is a snippet:

"In an attempt to counsel or treat the morbid jealousy of an individual, proper and thorough assessment must be employed. This approach is broad in nature, but necessary so as to provide adequate information that will aid in the possible reparation of a dynamic containing a morbidly jealous person. To begin, a careful history should be taken of both partners if possible; separate and together. It is imperative that a full and detailed psychiatric history and mental state examination be recorded for the jealous partner; doing so may enable one to distinguish whether the jealousy is obsessional or delusional in nature. It is also possible that the jealousy may be the result of a thought that has been given too much importance. Considering that jealousy is a very delicate issue, any reference made to it should be approached carefully and with tact. It must be kept in mind that the jealous individual may be displacing blame for their issues onto their partner and their alleged infidelity as opposed to their own behavior. If there is any history of relevant or related mental illness and substance misuse it should be noted as it may possibly be a contributing or aiding factor. In order to get the best grasp on the issues and begin positive progression, multiple interviews should be held to assess the marital relationship. After completing the assessment, it is best to deliver information about risk with both individuals in the relationship. Due to confidentiality, the patient should give consent for this information to be shared unless there is a risk to another individual and it is serious and immediate. This is the only case in which confidentiality is invalid. The professional should ensure that all necessary steps are taken to guarantee the safety of a potential victim, keeping in mind that it is possible that authorities may have to be alerted regarding the matter. If the professional has reason to believe that there is a high risk of harm to themselves or another person, the individual who is morbidly jealous should be admitted to a hospital as soon as possible to prevent any negative outcomes for any parties involved." Plasticwonder (talk) 03:45, 14 September 2024 (UTC)