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The topic of this article is the ideology or movement known variously in reliable sources as gender-critical feminism (including abbreviated forms such as "GC", "GC feminism") or trans-exclusionary radical feminism (including abbreviated forms such as "TERF ideology", "TERFism" and similar expressions). The two main titles are equivalent. The article was split off from the article Feminist views on transgender topics where the corresponding section is titled "Gender-critical feminism and trans-exclusionary radical feminism."
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“this article is very biased, and is purely a hit job on the left wing ideology of Gender Critical feminism, which does not hate trans” collapsed per WP:NOTAFORUM and WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT
This article is very biased, if anybody criticises that, their remark is deleted as a "opinion", this is a very unWikipedia attitude, that any statement contrary to the editors, must be deleted, all I am saying is a good critique, that is what the Talk section is for, that this article is very biased, in not allowing it to be accepted that Gender Critical feminism, is a left wing ideology, which is why left wingers like Dawkins and Joyce and co support it. They do not hate trans people, indeed they believe they deserve respect and love, they just have a different view on the definition of the word woman :) L;ove to aeverybody==
Restored revision 1251918375 by Lowercase sigmabot III (talk): I think we've heard this one before. Wikipedia is not a forum. Please take a specific and constructive line of argument, or do something more constructive with your time. undo Tags: Twinkle Undo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:B3AD:FF01:81DD:D02B:88C0:DD65 (talk) 14:54, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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No, this article here is about TERFism in general, worldwide. Whereas that new article is about the rise of the anti-trans movement in the UK and is more similar to the article of 2020s anti-LGBTQ movement in the United States which documents the rise of the anti-LGBTQ movement in the US.
Hi! My goal isn’y to cover gender critical feminism specifically, it’s to cover anti-trans sentiments in the UK - GCF is just the most common strain of anti-trans beliefs in the UK. Likewise, unlike this article, the new one focuses specifically on the United Kingdom and not worldwide. As Raladic mentioned, my goal was to make a UK counterpart to the very well written 2020s anti-LGBTQ movement in the United States article Snokalok (talk) 01:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have to agree with @Snokalok and @Raladic. This article is about GC feminism in general, that article is about the anti-trans movement in the UK, of which GC feminism is a large part but not the only part. I fail to see any reason why this should be concerning or presented as "rivalry" — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk)11:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It seems well referenced to me. If you have specific concerns about POV or OR, perhaps you should enumerate them on the Talk: page once the article is more stable. — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk)21:00, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Without anything to support those claims, that just sounds like a rather rude WP:IDONTLIKEIT.
This sounds more like a euphemism than a real thing. In the U.S. we just call them TERFs and of course really people we might call TERFs are usually only feminist as much as necessary to justify the transphobia. But the real reason it sounds like a euphemism is that the phrase is incoherent. Who came up with the idea of gender being non-grammatical and distinct from sex? Feminists, mostly. So the phrase is sort of illogical. I've yet to hear a feminist criticism of the idea of gender. It's just trans people these kinds of people don't like. If this phrase is a real thing, someone needs to explain where these people got the idea that they are arguing a feminist criticism of the idea of gender because that's not in any way clear... 96.231.188.182 (talk) 06:41, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Gender critical feminists" is the term used by some people, especially here in the UK, and is reliably sourced as such from several references, as can be seen in the article.
Discussing whether or not the term is a euphemism is not useful here on the Talk: page (per WP:NOTAFORUM). If you have specific references to point to including such a discussion in the article, then feel free to start that conversation, with those references. — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk)10:30, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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