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Order of candidates in the infobox: It has been agreed by consensus from an RfC at the article United States presidential election, 2016 that US presidential election articles will use the following criteria for ordering candidates in the infobox [pre-election]: order based on results of the candidates or their parties from the previous presidential general election. Link to previous discussion: here

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Russia Collusion Investigation statement is not NPV

In the last paragraph (#6) of the first section: "but it "did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government." is not NPV and Politico is right leaning. The term "collusion" is nebulous and it was established that the Trump campaign in addition to the infamous "Wikileaks, if you have the emails" comment prompting the hack, that campaign shared internal polling and direct contacts with Russian state actors in addition to having members prosecuted (Flynn, accepting a pardon, accepts guilt). This is unprecedented in American history. To make a weak-tea statement about this is totally typical for this site, but if you want to actually follow your own rules, you will attempt to make a statement about the contacts with foreign state actors, the fact Mueller declined to make a prosecution recommendation leaving it to Barr and subsequently indicated pretty clearly he felt misrepresented by Barr's characterization, the unprecendented actions of Barr to mischaracterize the conclusions and his tantamount to purjury before Congress about it. Won't hold my breath. Wouldn't want to upset MAGA with reality now would we. All of this can be worded such that only the facts of what occured is presented, without giving commentary or leaning towards a conclusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.186.180.170 (talk) 03:50, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sanders-Trump voters

"Trump's surprise victories were perceived to have been assisted by [...] the influence of Sanders–Trump voters who refused to back her after Bernie Sanders dropped out"

Why is this notable? The number is in line with similar proportions from other elections, if anything it might be slightly lower than usual.

The linked page cites estimates of 6-12% of Sanders supporters voting for Trump. In 2008, about 15% of Democrats who supported Clinton the primary switched to vote for McCain in the general election. [1]

There is also a wiki page for Obama-Trump voters which made up 11-15% of Trump's vote share, but that page is not even linked to on this one, even though there are far more Obama-Trump voters than Sanders-Trump voters. joft (talk) 16:52, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

538 predictions instead of RCP in "Predictions" table?

RCP's average includes all available polls without weighing based on historical accuracy. This means outlier pollsters like Rasmussen weight the same as more historically reliable sources (sometimes weighed even heavier because tracking polls release weekly, even daily). Using RCP's predictions also understates just how shocking Trump's over-performance was. RCP's final predictions were more bullish on Trump than everyone else in the mainstream because they included the few pollsters who gave DJT more than a puncher's chance. Ryanjackson10 (talk) 18:01, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possible addition of Margin Swing from the 2012 Election

Hello, I wanted to propose the idea of incorporating a margin swing analysis, similar to the one shown in the table of results from the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election#Results). In my view, margin swings offer valuable insights into how states allocate their electoral votes over time. As you're likely aware, swing states play a crucial role in every election cycle, and tracking these swings helps highlight how states shift politically, both in and out of "swing state" territory.

Moreover, given the significant shifts in states that weren't traditionally considered swing states before the election, visualizing these margin swings would provide a clearer understanding of how the final vote count evolved. Higgs32584 (talk) 20:54, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October surprise Comey

Why the comey letter which halved her lead immediately and was the first on voters minds not mentioned? Nohorizonss (talk) 14:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

" because of seven faithless electors"

This statement is evidence that people who post articles on Wiki (and possibly Wiki itself) is not true journalism nor simple facts. "Faithless" is an opinion of the writer. A true journalist does not display his/her biases. They present the facts as they are. Obvious bias does not belong in a page or article comprised of what should be simple facts. It should be removed. 2603:9001:8F00:982:8C40:4671:A7EF:205D (talk) 21:46, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's the actual term. See our article on it: Faithless elector. You see how those words "faithless electors" is in blue? That's called a wikilink. Please educate yourself on the matter before going off half-cocked. (That's an actual term too.) – Muboshgu (talk) 21:52, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Faithless elector is the commonly used term for an elector who casts a vote for candidate other than the one they are pledged to. See Faithless electors in the 2016 United States presidential election. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 21:54, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Other positions at the time

Other positions at the time. Trump hammered away at the Clintons on NAFTA and their role while Bill was in office at the time. And Hillary hammered away on Trump on wanting to destroy or break up NATO and being influenced by Vladimir Putin. CaribDigita (talk) 10:11, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]