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Yoel Razvozov

Hello Deborahjay. I have started a discussion re the category at Talk:Yoel Razvozov. Cheers, Number 57 23:15, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello

My pleasure, and thanks for the thanks.

Any chance of some help here? --Dweller (talk) 10:28, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Here's the folk etymology provided by Haaretz (English edition):

Isaac Herzog, 53, is better known by his nickname "Bougie," which he was given by his Egyptian-born, French-speaking mother, who combined the French word for doll, "poupee," with the Hebrew equivalent, "buba," but he prefers to be called Isaac when speaking with English-speakers or foreigners, not its Hebrew version, Yitzhak.

I'll add it to the page too, though I'm unconvinced by the supposed mashup of the two words indicated. Somewhere I vaguely recall "bougie" as-is courtesy of that same francophone mother, but perhaps that's just my imagination? -- Deborahjay (talk) 10:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Oh, and while I'm being cheeky, is there anything much in the Ivrit Menachem Banitt article that isn't in the en:? --Dweller (talk) 10:32, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

By length alone it does appear so, though the typical lack of citations on the WP HE page leaves me wary of adding much that can't be verified elsewhere, either in English or French (I can't function in Flemish/Dutch... how do the Belgians cope with their WP wants and needs anyway?).

Timewise you've caught me (ahem - us) at the start of International Women's History month with a backlog of selected articles to improve and translate - so your request is noted and duly shuffled lower on the GotToDo list.

The good news is that last month I left my almost-full-time job at the GFH Archives for the sake of freedom to spend my time at a select set of other pursuits, both personal and public, the latter including WP. The timing was coordinated with my attaining eligibility for the inelegantly titled Old Age Pension, a modest sum meaning I still must freelance (or feelance as a colleague calls it) translating or editing plus a few days/month at the museum. A cheery situation indeed! -- Deborahjay (talk) 10:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Just marvellous all round. Thanks and Happy Purim, --Dweller (talk) 12:12, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Please...

Before someone ends up permanently with some ghastly nonsense on their body, could you weigh in again at Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Language#Hebrew. Ta. --Dweller (talk) 15:42, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Hmph! The putative someone would IMO deserve the consequences of what I referred to as "reverse cultural appropriation" - I added my response bulleted under "Hebrew" and in the edit summary besides, both of which will likely be overlooked. Here's hoping that good taste and sound judgment will prevail. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 19:13, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Jewish Art Music

While I don't necessarily disagree with your decision to move this article, I think it was improper and precipitous to do so without raising the issue on the talk page first. Had you done so, I would probably have suggested that the article be expanded to include Jewish music that was not written by the St. Petersburg group - music by Copland (the Vitebsk trio), by Milhaud, by Bernstein, and so on. That is no longer a possibility because of the new name and lead.

In the future, I suggest you discuss actions like this before doing them unilaterally. Regards --Ravpapa (talk) 18:32, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Please pardon me, Ravpapa, for what was indeed an unduly hasty process and quite uncharacteristic on my part. I was acting somewhat under duress, having been recently introduced to a group of Hebrew Wikipedians whose activity on this very topic I was approached to translate for incorporation into the English-language Wikipedia. The Hebrew page in question, whose title translates quite literally as Jewish art music, is far more comprehensive in scope. This prompted me to Move the previous page here to a more specific title. This is the sort of explanation I'll now add to Talk:Jewish art music movement as well as Talk:Jewish art music (which is presently a REDIRECT page). My newly increased activity in the Hebrew WP, valuable as this is, is hugely demanding of time and effort I'd ordinarily spend on more thorough work in English, besides placing me far outside my personal comfort zone. However, the exigencies of bringing Jewish and Israeli content to the English-language readership, with the increased possibility of its further translation to other language projects and readers, speak to my personal values set. So I appreciate your calling me to order regarding the preferred process of revision, and I assure you I intend to restore order and expand content accordingly as befits the pair of pages. -- Deborahjay (talk) 19:44, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

ETA: See Talk:Jewish art music movement#Jewish art music: Page Move to Jewish art music movement. -- Deborahjay (talk) 20:44, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Apology accepted, of course. I looked at the Hebrew article - it is full of stuff I didn't know about, very interesting. But also problematic. First of all, it is very thin on documentation - the whole last section on "Canticum Hebraicum", for example, is completely unattributed. Also, the article ends at mid-18th century. If we want an article on Jewish Art Music, we need to include everything that happened after that - works with specifically Jewish content by Halevy, Joachim, and others. We need to think about what to do with Sulzer - whose compositions were liturgical by definition, but in fact clearly in the tradition of Western art music.

User:Smerus has been doing some work on the article on Jewish music, and we have briefly discussed what needs to be done in the field. Maybe we should think about a sort of colloquium on how we want to organize all the stuff on this topic, before you start churning out the hours in a major translation project.

Just a thought. --Ravpapa (talk) 04:59, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

If I can barge in -- as Ravpapa states, there are anyway significant predecessors to the Russians in Jewish art music - I would mention for example Isaac Nathan and Charles-Valentin Alkan - whom I don't see on the Hebrew page either.....--Smerus (talk) 05:43, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

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My grandparents met in Andijan

Hi Deborahjay, my grandparents met in Andijan as refugees from Poland during the Holocaust. They got married there. They then traveled back through Europe as they were resettled in numerous cities including Breslau, Poznan and Stetin before ending up in DP camps. You updated the Andijan page with a reference to the influx of Jews to Andijan in 1941. I was wondering if you could help point me to some of this research as I'm very curious to learn more about life there during this time for refugees. I looked up the reference for the Ghetto Fighter's House Museum Archive but I was unable to find the reference in File no 2165 that you documented. Perhaps this is only visible in-person? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jongraf82 (talk • contribs) 19:19, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Off topic at RDL

As I'm sure you know, there is no end to such a discussion, so I'm not going to continue it there, in an unrelated thread, in tiny print. You felt I shouldn't go unanswered, I felt Dodger67 shouldn't go unanswered, and Dodger67 felt StuRat shouldn't go unanswered. I'll say only one more thing, and that's that experience tells us there is zero chance of reaching any understanding on these issues—the two perspectives are unreconcilable and there is no interest on either side of seeing things from the other perspective. That pretty much ends the debate for me, and this will be my only comment here. ―Mandruss ☎ 12:12, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Kindly understand that I felt your response on RD/L was dismissive of an issue that can be read otherwise, so I added content I felt was germane. If you've read it, you've seen that I disagree also with your "zero-chance" assessment. Perhaps it would better be discussed at the RD Talk page, and I'm considering moving it there.

Something more pervasive is at stake that I'll describe here (hoping you'll read it despite your last sentence, above): Recently concern has been expressed in numerous Wikipedia forums (e.g. on Facebook and mailing lists, that I know of) that there's a gender gap in Wikipedia participation besides in content, skewed towards the male. While we can't expect a sudden correction of millennia of bias to quantitatively equalize biographies of notable people in all fields, we can do something about participation. I saw an OT response ridiculing women on a Refdesk I frequently peruse (H, L, M) and on which I often contribute - and pardon me that I don't recognize your User name among the regulars - and I chose not to be silent. I tried (and it took me an overlong time to edit my response before posting) to make some cogent remarks on the matter in hopes that lurkers will read it. Because I have a personal stake in certain highly contended topics that sometimes arise, it's a quick place to possibly have some influence. -- Deborahjay (talk) 12:37, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Viennese Waltz has already started a thread at WT:RD, attempting to extract an apology from the offender. I would hope any further discussion there could at least be limited to this specific case, as any larger debate would be out of place there. The chances of seeing my wish come true? Probably pretty slim, as most people seem unable to keep things in scope around here. Just my advice. ―Mandruss ☎ 12:49, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

yi-1?

Surely you're better than that? Anyway, can you input at Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Language#Borscht_terminology_in_Yiddish? Ta. --Dweller (talk) 15:17, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

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Hello, could you do me a favor, please?

I'd like to respond to the Hebrew tattoo issue, but I cannot, because the page is semi-protected, so could you please copy my following response from your page to the Language Reference Desk? After you copy my response, you can remove it from your page (if you want to). My response is as following

Hi there, a native Hebrew speaker is here. The tattoo undoubtedly reads "Muhannad Amir" (Hebrew: מֻהַנַּד אַמִיר). The first word is an arabic first name, the second word being the surname.

Two questions have still remained: 1. Why does this Arab prisoner use Hebrew letters instead of Arabic letters? 2. Who is Muhannad Amir? He cannot be the prisoner, because thanks to this page supplied by User:Basemetal in their second response, we can also discover the prisoner's name: Ahmed Bani Jaber.

As for User:Dweller's hypothesis that the prisoner is Yigal Amir: This is impossible, even theoretically (hadn't we known that the prisoner is an Arab whose name is Ahmed Bani Jaber), because Yigal Amir is an orthodox religious jew, whose religion forbids using tattoos (Leviticus 19 28).

As for User:Akld guy's hypothesis, stating that maybe the word on the right represent a date written in Hebrew letters: This could theoretically be a possible option, had he been a religious orthodox jew, because religious orthodox jews tend to use the Hebrew calendar whose dates are written in Hebrew letters; However the prisoner is an Arab, so why should he use the Hebrew calendar?

As for Akld guy's second hypothesis, claiming that maybe the prisoner uses Hebrew letters in his tattoo in order to indicate his prisoner number: In my view, he wouldn't have done that, because of two reasons: 1. Modern Hebrew uses Hebrew letters as numerals in very specific (and rare) cases only, e.g. when indicating dates of the Hebrew calendar, and sometimes also when printing ordinal numbers of pages of books (e.g. "עמוד כג" i.e. "page Kaf Gimmel" meaning "page 23"), and sometimes also when indicating ordinal numbers of footnotes or of paragraphs and the like, but Modern Hebrew never uses its letters as numerals in most of the cases, including the case of indicating prisoner numbers. 2. Why should a prisoner indicate his prisoner number on his tattoo? Tattoos are usually intended to perpetuate or to immortalize something, aren't they? But I don't see why any prisoner in the world may want to perpetuate his status by a tattoo, which will be hard to remove (if at all) in the future, while he's looking forward to getting released as soon as possible. 87.68.54.45 (talk) 10:26, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

RD deletion

Hello, I deleted the post and your well-intentioned reply. This is just childish trolling, which we normally delete on sight. Best wishes, --Viennese Waltz 08:39, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

@User:Viennese Waltz, thank you for hailing me here. I'd noticed two other editors had deleted the post on sight with the first edit summary of "troll" - and now your delete has also been reverted twice. Here I don't see the usual trollish "Why do scholars have a bias against NS Germany / Holocaust revisionism / your choice", so I decided to try another tack, which is that the poster has a problem with WP therefore no other responses are required here. I didn't suggest posting elsewhere (frankly I'm not sure where...which is what I wrote.) I'm interested in knowing what method would be more effective than the loops of sequential del/revert, until, what, an admin blocks the offending account? Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 08:49, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

ETA: I see that user account with its four a/m reverts has indeed been blocked. -- Deborahjay (talk) 08:58, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

I don't think there are any more effective methods than del/rev and block. That's how we deal with these people around here, and it's pretty effective. Cheers, --Viennese Waltz 09:13, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

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Spotted you on the Misc Desk earlier

Thought you might like this --Dweller (talk) 14:20, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Shalom from the Hebrew Wikivoyage

Hi Deborah. I noticed that you helped develop the English article about Akko in the English Wikivoyage. Since you know Hebrew too, I just wanted to invite you to help expand an article or two at the Hebrew Wikivoyage. I have been one of the leading editors at the Hebrew Wikivoyage for a long while, and although we have accomplished quite a lot over there, our little community of editors hasn't grown much in the recent years, and therefore there is only so much content the few active editors can produce alone. If possible, please help expand a bit one or two of the Hebvoy articles about your favorite destination/s. Thanks in advance. ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 15:11, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

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Anything we can collaborate on, at the Pritzker pages? Seems to be a lull in progress. Cheers. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 02:20, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Bielski Partisans members

Hi well Colby here to talk about the so called Bielski Partisans which was run by the Bielski Brothers during World War II, apparently some famous guys are needed to be told, Meyer Bronicki is one of them and was also a member to Tuvia Bielski's Partisans one of his men, Jack Kagan is also one of them, Pinchas Boldo is another member also, Mike Stoll is another one needed to be told, plus one guy in that unit who told the story is Peretz Shorshaty, he was famous for his artwork cartoons he did drawings of the Bielski partisans it's important Peretz Shorshaty gets put on this Wikipedia since he was famous who lived to tell the tale, although his character in the 2008 Defiance Film dies on screen right which is odd because in real life he lived, yeah it's important more to tell Peretz's tale, also Beryl Chafetz is also another man needed to be told,

Also David Bielski the father of the Bielski brothers who was murdered is needed to be told, Leah Johnson also is needed to be told of her story, Lea Friedberg also is another Jew with her story to be told, Sonya Oshman is also another to be told of her tale, Ruth Lapidus also needs to be told, another Bella Goldfischer is also another Jew with a tale when she was aboard a Death Train someone opened the doors, she also escaped to koin the partisans, Ann Monka I think was a sister of Bella and she survived as well, also Sol Lapidus also needs to be told he's also one of the most famous that will need to be told, so yeah what might have to be told is they're famous to the Bielski Partisans during World War II, Trooper201 (talk) 06:26, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Ion Ianoși

Hello. Thanks for that editing. I think you are right, I'm usually confused when it comes to nationalities and ethnicities and I just though that Israeli is a better word to refer to a Jewish person, but thanks to you I've learned that they are not the same thing.--MJ for U (talk) 10:44, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

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As an armchair linguist I've lately become much more sensitive to, and fascinated by, pragmatic considerations.—PaulTanenbaum (talk) 14:01, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

@PaulTanenbaum Pardon, when have I used that word? What is this about? Respectfully, InsaneHacker (💬) 15:35, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

@User:insaneHacker, Sorry, my mistake. An entry in the language reference desk does so, and somehow when I cut and pasted I grabbed your name, rather than that of the actual (anonymous) editor. Please accept my apology for the confusion.—PaulTanenbaum (talk) 15:49, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Ah I see, no problem. Have a nice day Respectfully, InsaneHacker (💬) 15:51, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

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Ynes Mexia

Hello Deborahjay. Lovely to meet you! It looks like you did some really wonderful work on the page you shared for Ynes Mexica we have her on our list of pages to add additional content to, although it certainly looks like you were very thorough! I didn't know about Mexia until very recently; one of my colleagues mentioned that she came to botany later in life and was by most counts a colorful character.

Thanks for the support of the work I am doing! Wikipedia is such a great and supportive community--I'm really happy to have found everyone here. Best of luck with what looks like a great deal of wonderful and detailed Wikipedia projects! Please do not hesitate to reach out again in the future. Emjackson42 (talk) 22:49, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

International Holocaust Remembrance Day

I saw your posting on the main page errors report, and was going to respond to you there, but the thread is gone, so posting here instead.

Decisions about what runs on the main page are based upon two things. The first is the importance or notability of the topic. Everyone agrees that International Holocaust Remembrance Day is an extremely important and solemn topic so that is not an issue. The second criterion is the quality of the Wikipedia article itself. In this case, the article could benefit from additional citations of sources, plus it is unbalanced in that it focuses heavily on how the Remembrance Day was commemorated in a couple of specific years but certainly could benefit from updating.

Different editors feel differently about how to balance these two criteria of topic-importance and article-quality. If it were up to me I might have linked the article from the main page based on the first criterion, downplaying the second one, and hoping that seeing the article might have led editors to improve it. Other editors balance the factors differently and in recent weeks, several of the people who are most active in selecting the content for the main page have been working to improve the level of referencing in all articles linked from any portion of that page. Sometimes that means not including articles that would surely be worthy of including if the decision were based on the importance of the subject alone.

In my time on Wikipedia, I have worked with all the editors who posted in the errors thread, including David Levy, Black Kite, and The Rambling Man. Sometimes I agree with their opinions about things and sometimes I don't, but all of them are respected Wikipedians and none deserve the type of accusation you made. You can rest assured that the decision not to include this particular article on the main page this year was based on the same type of discussions that are taking place every day regarding all kinds of articles. It was not, to any degree whatsoever, based upon anyone's denial or trivialization of the Holocaust or the importance of never forgetting it. Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:44, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Deborah,
In case you missed my reply at WP:ERRORS:

• I personally removed the link.
• I'm Jewish (on both sides of my family).
• My paternal grandparents were Holocaust survivors (and most of their relatives were far less fortunate).

I hope that this dispels any notion of Holocaust denial or related biases playing a role in the link's omission. —David Levy 23:42, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

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Not quite, Ipigott. Deborahjay was editing wikidata but seeing her items removed from the Listeria list. The cause was that the list was limited to 1000 rows (slightly less - I'm thinking it selected 1000 Female/Israel items, then deducted those with en.wiki articles, for a total of iirc 887 rows). I've now removed the limit=1000 and per my explanation on VP/T, Deborahjay's edits can now be seen in the list. We could do two or three things to diminish the sort of uncertainty which has afflicted Deborahjay such as 1) note in the explanatory text of redlists that have limits, that the limits in place may lead to recently edited wikidata items falling off the lists 2) work out if we can force the sort-order of the select such that the presumably edit-timestamp-related current sort is removed, meaning that edited items will not fall off the list 3) remove the limits 4) add a note to the explanatory text suggesting that anyone with problems comes to WT:WPWIR rather than elsewhere. Deborahjay - please let me know whether the problem is now sorted for you; thanks. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:20, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your clarification, Tagishsimon. From what you say, it looks as if you have sorted out the problem. I see that the list now runs to over 2,400 items compared to just 1,000 earlier. I must say I have not followed the technical development or performance of ListeriaBot but it certainly looks strange to me to see that it was failing to list Wikidata additions. I must say that when I have updated Wikidata details, they have always been reflected in the Listeria updates but that may well be because I have not been working on lists exceeding the prescribed upper limit. As you suggest, it may be a good idea to expand the explanatory note at the beginning of the longer lists.--Ipigott (talk) 13:47, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

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Deborah, article of Deutsch wiki is pleasantly meticulous, but I'm a beginner in that language... --Opus88888 (talk) 21:34, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

It's best to ignore The Rambling Man

He's apparently just here to cause trouble. StuRat (talk) 21:47, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Not true StuRat, you're here for social media affirmation, I'm here to improve Wikipedia (let's compare contributions, shall we??), while Deborahjay accused me of being a Holocaust denier. Stay out of it unless you have something actually useful to add, which on your form guide, is highly unlikely. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:56, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, if I intervene, but I think I have to. I do not see any harassment in pinging. I always thought it is a very useful instrument to get people know you answered them. Isn't it invented for that very useful purpose? It's called communication, you know. As for other things, why that unexpected out-of-place fuss? We were very politely and routinely discussing a very small linguistic issue. You suddenly created a drama from nothing bringing some of your personal grudge into an entirely unrelated discussion. Your comment was rather mean and out-of-place, utterly overreacted. If you have some problems with an editor, don't bring your conflict everywhere around, have it out somewhere in appropriate places.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 09:19, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

For the avoidance of doubt, and for both of you, no more pings, or you will be reported for harassment. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:08, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Do not worry I do not want to have anything to do with you. You will do us a favour if you ignore us, very bad persons, in the first place, as it was you who overreacted and started that drama and actual harassment (and not what you call a harrasment, nobody did any harm to you). Nobody surely invited you for that. And yes, some more such dramas from nothing out of place you will be most certanly reported at ANI, not to an admin, who seems to be tired of and does not want to mess with you.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 16:07, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

You don't have the first idea what you're talking about, but why let that get in the way of a good story and a weak threat, eh? The Rambling Man (talk) 16:20, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

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@Igorberger: I'm glad to have made a useful contribution on the Haavara Agreement page, especially considering the prior activity on its Talk page. As for your above statement: you presumably know that it's similar but not identical to mine earlier today, to which I alerted you and now repeat here: "...consult me to objectively discuss particular edits on matters of the Holocaust, Israel, Zionism and Jewish history." These are my areas of expertise and/or interest and on which I have experience finding sourced material. They specifically do not include "Judaism" and "Antisemitism" so that I can prioritize my efforts here (also in WP Hebrew and Wikidata). I'm involved in a number of projects which sometimes claim more time than I can commit, which is not to say I don't value the concerns and good-faith efforts of other editors. Thank you for respecting my practice. Kol tuv -- Deborahjay (talk) 14:31, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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Israeli-Palestinian localities

You do realize the original intention of that template I made was to show the villages according to ethnic and religious divisions? Jews, Muslims, Christians, Druze, Circessian and Non-Arab Christians (like Nes Ammim). The module is simply not complete.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 23:39, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Hmm. That is what you substituted after I questioned the map legend which had been retained from the template's previous purpose (per title). I then went on to change religions to ethnicities and moved the Template (to rename it) from "Israeli and Palestinian" localities to "Jewish and Arab." I noted my rationale in the Move's edit summary (visible in View history). Now, reading your intention - would you agree to move this discussion to the Template's talk page? I have some considerations to raise for the sake of objectivity and inclusiveness, which are sensitive topics (mixed-population villages, Bedouin identity, Jewish secular vs Orthodox vs Haredi), especially as this template is already "live." I'm unsure whether a map could successfully present the relevant distinctions. Rather, I'd suggest setting up a Task Force to review the pages of all Israeli residential localities' religious and ethnic demographics. Examples among my neighbors: Maghar, Israel#Demographics, Abu Snan, and Ya'ara, vs elsewhere in the country: Beit Shemesh#Demographics, Nazareth Illit#Demographics... The goal, as I see it, is for readers of the English-language WP (including non-native speakers whose own language projects don't have this content) to get background for, e.g. news items about what happens in Israel. המשך שבת שלום וכל טוב-- Deborahjay (talk) 07:51, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

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South African Musicians

Hi,

I see the page is protected, however there are a number of artists not on the page.

Example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_East

I'd like to be able to add artists that I find as I'm currently doing a little bit of hunting - trying to find out bames and discographies of artists I remember from the early 1990's.

My mom made a few videos, and I'm hoping to hold of some details that way as well, however my main reason for contacting you is that you are the last person to have edited the page, and it's no use having an incomplete page if no additions are made (or welcome) - that being said, I do completely understand why it's protected.

I was born in Durban, lived in Toti until I was 25 and am now in Cape Town. I would greatly appreciate the opportunity to help curate this page. Desilu150986 (talk) 14:47, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Desilu, and thanks for getting in touch with me to present your issues. I'm no expert but here are my explanations to the best of my knowledge:

• The page is the List of South African musicians and is updated manually, not automatically. Each listing is a page in this (the English-language) Wikipedia, so it's displayed in blue with an internal ("hot") link to the page. The format is the exact page name enclosed in double square brackets.
• Compare the list with the Category:South African musicians. For a page to appear in a category, the category name has to be added when editing the page, in a format similar to a page name. (See examples in the Edit view.)
• If you recently created this User account, you can already edit your own User page and write on your User talk page (which I'm creating now). I think after 72 hours you'll be allowed to edit mainspace pages (e.g. an article). You can look at mine as a model and decide how much, if any, personal info you want to include. (Languages in Babel boxes, for example).
• Meanwhile you can explore categories and articles. The best way to learn editing is to copy what others do. If you know HTML, the Wiki markup language is similar, e.g. enclose text in double apostrophes for italic, triple apostrophes for bold, etc.
• You can also check out the activity of m:Wikimedia ZA, the national organization of Wikipedians in South Africa, by clicking that link (and they're also on Facebook). They have regular meetings and welcome newcomers. Did you know that this year's international Wikipedia gathering, m:Wikimania 2018, is being held in Cape Town? Lucky you! (and foolish me, I missed it in 2011 when it was in my country.)

Most of my activity nowadays is fixing up the Zulu Wikipedia. I have the same User name on all projects, and if you write me a question here I'll get notified and get back to you within a day. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 19:16, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Zulu & Xhosa

Hi Deborah, alas my acquaintance with those Wikipedias is academic, although I do understand and speak the languages at a basic level (they are mutually intelligible). This very Saturday I intend to start coaching youngsters who are mother tongue speakers, to use the machine-assisted translation tool provided by Wikipedia (currently it only supports IsiXhosa, but I hope that will change by the end of the hackathon which is part of Wikimania.

Sorry to hear about your lack of response on the list. I hope the situation improves soon! Thanks for your efforts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelgraaf (talk • contribs) 20:22, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Wow!!! you are literate in so many Languages and you have contributed a lot. Weldone! Uzoma Ozurumba (talk) 10:22, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks from Argentina

I created the page I-Arjentina, in zulu, but I'm not checked yet (don't know how it's said in English, I use the Spanish Wikipedia). Consecuently, I could not add links to the other pages in different languages, as the page is protected (I could do so with the Falkland Islands and the Buenos Aires pages, though). Thank you for doing it, it's always a pleasure to encounter an active user.

*Spanish* --[ Dzenev] [(discusión)] 19:49 15 jun 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dzenev (talk • contribs)

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Hi Deborahjay, heads up that I'm failing to translate some Ha'Aretz articles from Hebrew to English. I'm looking for information on a guy named Eran Dinur who was a theatrical composer in Israel from the late 90s to around 2010. If you happen to be available a bit later this week, I'd love to bounce a few articles off you. Thanks! Babajobu (talk) 21:29, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes, Israel-music-theater-bio is a constellation I'm likely to deal with even if to a limited extent. My availability is spotty, so the sooner you can send me links or files with the content, the sooner I can have a look. Then we can match objectives and plan action. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 13:17, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

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Hello, Deborahjay, I have seen that you have also a page here, which is easier for me to follow. I have asked a question here. Regards, Wouterhagens (talk) 19:45, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Getting back to you, @Wouterhagens: - the page at m:Wikipedia Pages Wanting Photos/Results, which you checked on Nov. 3, appears to have quite a few results. On the lower part of the page there's a clarification of further definitions for African language WPs, referring to another link. Let me know if there's particular content you seek. -- Deborahjay (talk) 19:47, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much. All is clear now. I remember only having seen the part about "Winning prize by Wiki in Africa". It is curious that no one else in the Village pump has made this clear to me in response to my question. Wouterhagens (talk) 10:58, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you so much for all the work you do, including translating pages marked for translation. It is great to have you doing so much work to ensure that knowledge is available in the Hebrew language. Once again, we will need your help in translating the pages below:

• Inuka team
• Wikipedia for KaiOS
• Wikipedia Preview
• Wikipedia for KaiOS FAQ

Translating these pages will help educate more people about the Inuka team and their projects. Please, don't feel pressured to finish all the translation; it is okay to translate some of the pages. Thanks once again.

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@UOzurumba (WMF): - Dear Uzoma, thanks for getting in contact with me. It's good to see you and your activities with the Inuka initiative. Actually I don't translate into Hebrew - a language I acquired as an adult, and my spoken fluency isn't matched by written competence. So I've contacted a veteran Wikimedian here in Israel, a member of our local WP women editors' group, who has experience translating similar project pages - she'll take a look and will engage in the task or refer it onwards. Wishing you great success! -- Deborahjay (talk) 13:47, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much Deborahjay for the help with contacting a veteran Wikimedian who can help me with the translations; I appreciate it. Also, sorry for assuming you translate into Hebrew.

Take care! UOzurumba (WMF) (talk) 06:30, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

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Hello Deborahjay, how are you? Since you're an multilingual editor, could you translate the articles Luís Gama and Netto Question (maybe also Doutor Gama) into any of the languages you known or thinks that could be relevant as stubs or full translations (depending if you're not busy)? Since these are related to the African Diaspora I thought about the African Languages Wikis like Zulu, but since you're so skilled, I would like to let it as you chooses. Thanks, Erick Soares3 (talk) 22:08, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

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Advice about the Wolf Prize in Mathematics

Deborahjay, I am relatively new at editing Wikipedia content, and I wanted your advice, please. I'm reading about the Wolf Prize in Mathematics. It is such a shame that this prize has only been awarded to men (as far as I can tell). Is there a way to mention this on the Wikipedia page for the prize? I think that this is notable, and I think there might be a way to do this, in such a way that it raises awareness, so that talented female mathematicians could (hopefully) be considered for this award. What do you think? I don't know how to handle this in a tactful way, and I am relatively new at editing on Wikipedia. What is your opinion on this issue, please? Thanks for considering! It might be the case that such information would be unwelcome or inappropriate on the page. I actually don't know! I wanted advice (please) from a more experienced editor, and I wondered if you would have some advice/guidance about this. Warmest regards! MDW333 (talk) 12:02, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Dear Professor MDW, welcome to Wikipedia! It's entirely appropriate to approach and engage with active, experienced editors on topics of mutual interest, and I'm especially glad to take up matters regarding the Wolf Prizes. (Their lacking pages in the Hebrew Wikipedia may drive me to make them myself!) The nominations process, being by invitation upon application, seems rather opaque. I'll have to explore the website more (or contact the Foundation) to see if and where they publish the names of the panel of judges - possibly a point of transparency. Meanwhile you can add the Wolf Prize and Wolf Foundation pages to your Watchlist (click on the star in the horizontal top of page navigation bar to the left of "More"). At the moment I'm launching a time-bound project in Hebrew for the local editors group, but actually the Wolf Prizes were already on my to-do radar since last month when the 2022 laureates names and fields were published in the Israeli mainstream news. Certainly notability is established. Feel free to contact me if you have further questions about editing. -- Deborahjay (talk) 13:32, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Deborahjay thank you very much for the lightning-fast reply! Wow! OK, I added both of these pages to my Watchlist. Maybe we can stay in touch about this. I just don't know what is the right way to approach such an edit to the Wolf Prize in Mathematics in a way that is notable and constructive, and might gently might lead to progressive change, without being viewed as inappropriate or activist or something like this. I'm genuinely interested to learn how to make such edits. Thank you again! I'm learning a great deal, and I'm thankful for your guidance and feedback. Warmest regards to you! MDW333 (talk) 13:38, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

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Mobileye

Hi Deborahjay, nice to meet you. My name is Gideon, I work for Mobileye and recently started a discussion at Talk:Mobileye regarding the controversy section. Seeing as you're a member of WP:Israel I thought you might take a look. Hope to see you there! Gideon at Mobileye (talk) 11:19, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

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Note: This discussion belongs on the page Talk:Warsaw concentration camp, to which it has been re-positioned.

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This video features an interview with Gideon Greif, a historian of the Holocaust, but I don't know Hebrew. Based on your knowledge of the language, does the historian say that the Warsaw concentration camp narrative about 200K dead Poles is "fake history" or something similar; if not, what is the descriptor he uses for that story? Unfortunately, Google speech-to-text recognition did not really work out, and without the knowledge of the language, I seem to have no other option. Thanks in advance for the help. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 16:37, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

@Szmenderowiecki if you don’t know Hebrew how did you know what that source say, who is being interviewed and why did you use it to source the text ? - GizzyCatBella🍁 20:08, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

The source's inclusion is longstanding and can be tracked to this revision by Francois Robere, October 2019; Piotrus has briefly removed the source as "non-English" and then put the "citation needed" template on Greif. Also, even with the rubbish translation, it was fairly evident that Gideon Greif was critical of the Polish government (that led by the Law and Justice, to be exact). So the question is what exactly he said. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 20:57, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

But how do you know who is in the video. The original entry had 2 sources, this one [1] then the video [2] booth were referenced to three people --> Havi Dreifuss, Jan Grabowski and Gideon Greif. How do you know it is Greif in the video not Dreifuss? - GizzyCatBella🍁 21:30, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

The speech recognition software is not as dumb as not being able to recognise "Havi Dreifuss" from "Gideon Greif", come on. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 21:42, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Here is the diff [3] where you, on November 14, 2021, reinstated the Hebrew video as a source next to the Gideon Greif. So you didn't understand what the video actually says because you don't speak Hebrew but you entered the source anyway. You used speech recognition software and you only identify that this is Gideon Greif talking on the video. Correct? Please confirm or elaborate further. - GizzyCatBella🍁 22:00, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

I reverted Piotrus (or rather, reinstated from the old version of the article I was basing on, together with the Polish version of the article, which was the basis of expansion by translation), because the only reason he proposed for deleting the video was because it was in Hebrew - he did not assert any problems with that video other than he couldn't understand it. I trusted whoever first introduced that video that the inclusion was correct (I now checked that it was François Robere - please explain yourself). Nothing sinister. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 18:01, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@Szmenderowiecki Your edit wasn't a revert. You constructed your own modification using some material from prior versions, and some that it looks to me Polish Wikipedia translation. You recorded in your edit summary --> Quote:

Expanded extermination camp section, omitting the disputed footnote + 2 sources from Zezza, one from some Hungarian historians, a book on the Warsaw uprising (Frantic 7), a book on the post-truth history (History in a Post-Truth world) mentioning the bogus plaques on KL Warschau

You are fully responsible for that edit and the sources you used. That's it from me here. - GizzyCatBella🍁 20:11, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

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@Chiswick Chap : I'm doing these on my mobile phone where I remain logged in to my account - and I suspect it treats these edits similar or identical to a label in Wikidata, which is accepted as content without any possibility or need for characterizing the action. What's peculiar is that in the English Wikipedia these appear in my Contributions, but in the Hebrew WP they only appear as Wikidata contributions. I'd be glad to conform to best practice, but how? Also may I mention I'm quite rigorous about Edit Summaries and teach this to newbies I coach. Kindly advise! Cheers, -- Deborahjay (talk) 15:06, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

I can't speak for your mobile phone, but on my mobile if I make an edit, I then press the blue square with ">" in it at top right, which gives me a screen with "Summary:" and an edit comment field, in which I type my edit, above a small display of the effect of my edit. I then press the blue rectangle with "Publish" in it at top right, and presto, I've made a mobile edit with edit comment. But maybe your mileage may vary from this simple pattern. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:12, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

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Hi Deborah, hope you are doing well. I was looking for links to potentially add to the page and realized the issue is that the page Jewish Association for Protection of Girls and Women is different from Jewish Association for the Protection of Girls and Women, which redirects to Constance Flower, one of the founders. Since this is the same organization, I'm not sure what the best recourse would be to combine the pages - merge the full page (sans the) with the redirect to correct the name, vice versa, etc.? Either way it is, thankfully, not an orphan! Kazamzam (talk) 12:28, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Dear Kazamzam, your point is well-taken and requires corrections for the sake of consistency per the facts! Another look and careful reading of the logo image in Commons, it indeed has the title Jewish Association for the Protection of Girls and Women. I was overly reliant on the editors of the page in the Hebrew WP (where it's a Good Article). This requires a review of the organization's English name in its later publications which are cited in the latter part of the Hebrew text that remains to be translated to the en.wiki. I'll also correct the name of the Commons category to conform with the association's actual name. Many thanks for your welcome guidance! Cheers -- Deborahjay (talk) 12:50, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

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Hi Deborah, hope you're doing well - I have a hopefully not too complex question for you as a Hebrew reader/speaker. A few months ago I came across the word Ma'amad/Mahamad in a book referring to the community council of elders in the Sephardic communities, comparable to the Ashkenazic qahal. The ma'amad page is pretty sparse and the qahal isn't much better. But the Hebrew qahal page is extremely lacking! This seems like a real gap and something I am interested in improving, either by merging the articles and beefing up the combined version, or by improving them separately. I haven't done the research to say if they are truly the same concept under two different names or diverged more significantly to warrant tow different articles but I thought you might like to be involved, particularly if you have a suggestion for a good picture. Ideally I would like to link the two via the same Wikidata item but that's a longer term goal. If this isn't something you find interesting, no worries and thanks for your help! Kazamzam (talk) 13:21, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Shalom, Kazamzam, and thanks for your interest and for drawing this to my attention. My knowledge of religious matters doesn't cover these points, so let me provide what answers may be helpful at this junction. Apart from the Hebrew linguistic elements (ma'amad, lit. "standing", and qahal, lit. congregation, each in a particularly narrow sense!), these terms stand for concepts native to the nature of the Ashkenazi vs Sepharadi communities for these religious/ethnic/cultural bodies' self-management in their distinct diaspora setting. The two maintain separate rabbinic dynasties and liturgies, and I doubt there was even much intermarriage (!) between these communities until the 20th C. Certainly their vernaculars were closely related to their diaspora bases (primarily Yiddish vs. Ladino, besides those of the Middle East/North Africa and others). Hence I strongly support keeping distinct Wikidata items for Ma'amad and Qahal. Your points could be addressed (at least in part) by adding to both the reciprocal claim of the Property:Different from, which I've applied just now (See links). What do you think of these considerations? Cheers -- Deborahjay (talk) 14:58, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your detailed response! I agree with your point that the two are quite distinct. I'll try to improve both of them separately - I'm hopeful that there is an illustration or drawing of a ma'amad somewhere that is in the public domain. Will keep you posted! Best, Kazamzam (talk) 18:51, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

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On Soviet Yiddish

Hi. You withdrew my edit in the 'Zog nit keyn mol' article, arguing that 'Soviet Yiddish did not use the final consonant forms'. Well, that's true (after 1931), but did the author of the song used a Soviet orthography? It's possible, part of the Yung Vilne community (with whom the Hirsh Glick seems to have been associated) adopted such a spelling, but then the whole text should be written according to Soviet rules, not YIVO. And the difference in spelling in the main text and in the footnote is a lack of consistency. The fact that the word refers to a Soviet gun is irrelevant here. --Marcel Duchamp (talk) 15:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

September 2024 at Women in Red

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Muli Segev im Rega im Dodley

Please be careful when fixing spelling in quotations, file names .... and in Wikipedia article titles. :-)

Yes I know that מולי is Muli and דודלי is Dodli, but The Jerusalem Post thinks otherwise (I guess they wanted stupid Americans say "dodl-EE" rather than "dodl-EYE") --Altenmann >talk 00:43, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

User:Altenmann: What you wrote above (for which thanks, as it's an addition to your edit summary "Do not break things" on reverting my edit) is hard to comprehend:

• On the Muli Segev page, I see no citation whatsoever from The Jerusalem Post
• Your revert of my entire edit removed the English translation, which all the other Hebrew program titles include

How do you think your actions improve the article rather than degrade it? In WP editing I follow conventional HE:EN transcription rules. Whence these admonishments in your first line here? Where did I change ("fix") spelling in a quotation, a file name, a Wikipedia article title? Do you think I'm not "careful," i.e. diligent? Are your practices the standard from which I fall short? If you're going to caution me, I'd like to know where you're coming from. -- Deborahjay (talk) 07:02, 13 October 2024 (UTC)