User talk:RegentsPark

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November 2017

• Copied from my talk page where it was added by User:Fishnagles in appreciation of my removal of spam that they were adding to Charles Manson.

Hello, I'm Fishnagles. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks.

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia.

Women in Red World Contest

Hi. We're into the last five days of the Women in Red World Contest. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!

Hanuman Chalisa

Hello RegentsPark, May I know why you have deleted my Citation for Hanuman Chalisa? And why you also issued a "Warning" for this?

I just wanted to help community... Let me tell you, I've added Full Hanuman Chalisa Lyrics (English & Hindi both languages) reference, which is composed by Late Gulshan Kumar & Hariharan. And I've added Citation of Lyrics website for that.

So, can you please tell me why it is considered as spammy? And if it is, please let me know the correct way for that.

And yes, in my last contribution, I've added a New single song by Artist & linked it's Official YouTube Video link, and I've received warning & my edit was deleted by some wiki Robot (i think)!

I just want to tell you, my intensions are pure.

Thanks. Ajendra25 (talk) 22:38, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

@Ajendra25: Youtube video links are not considered kosher. Also the other link that you gave is not an acceptable external link. You should check WP:EL for what is acceptable. You may, of course, add references to songs but don't link to youtube or some other site. And do provide a reference (see WP:RS to get an idea of what constitutes a reference). Sorry, but that's the wikipedia way! --regentspark (comment) 00:57, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Let me tell you, there was already a YouTube official link above my edit for the Akhil Sachdeva Singles song. And I've seen many YouTube links and other web citations used for reference. So why just only me? Not allowed to do so? I've checked some policies. Ajendra25 (talk) 14:33, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

It's my humble request, please remove a warning generated by you, as I think it's not a spam. Ajendra25 (talk) 14:36, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

I removed the other youtube link as well. I'm sure you're editing in good faith but please be careful with external links. Generally, you should only add links to outside sources that are either serving as reliable sources or are elaborating on material in the article. And, never inline an external link in the body of the article. --regentspark (comment) 14:43, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, I cant spell so excuse Ghandi. Anyway, I just wanted to say I'm sorry for our disagreement lol, I posted evidence on the talk page of the Mhatma Gandi article. Have a nice afternoon (in Britain)

No worries. Thanks for posting on the talk page. Ghandi, as a spelling, is considered derogatory for Gandhi, that's why I pointed it out. --regentspark (comment) 14:37, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Oh, I knew nothing about the derogatory term. Anyway, I won't add the racism section.-Thanks Ooh Saad (talk) 09:28, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

‎Removal of sourced content

Dear RegentsPark, being a neutral editor, I invite you to kindly check out the recent contributions by Kami2018, who was already given "last warning" on his talk page twice for removing sourced content from various articles. He is currently removing refs and reliably sourced content from articles related to the Khalji dynasty. For example, see these edits: [1], [2], [3], [4]. In his edit summary, he claimed that the source was "not credible" (?), although historian Vladimir Minorsky, who is cited, is in fact one of the most trusted academics on the subject. Thanks, Khestwol (talk) 10:41, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

This reminds me of someone. @Arjayay: might have ideas. --regentspark (comment) 13:55, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorry Khestwol and regentspark, that editing pattern/subject matter is not familiar, and that account has been used for 18 months - Arjayay (talk) 11:27, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. @Khestwol:, I see this is an ongoing problem and have notified them of sanctions in this area. --regentspark (comment) 16:29, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

I loved ...

... "let there be time." The Bible was written before Relativity. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 13:46, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello

Glad you noticed, please take a look at this article – Zhao Yunlei, it's subsections really are not same like other badminton Articles in which they can be closed or opened as for ease in reading the whole Article. Maybe it is difficult only for us Mobile viewers, but can it be solved? I failed to figure out if there is a template or something which is preventing to close subsections in that Article. Thankyou. Zoglophie (talk) 03:36, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

@Zoglophie: I don't know what you are referring to, are you sure you're pinging the right person?--regentspark (comment) 15:12, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

@RegentsPark: I don't know how the message below myself is attached to the section I made, I am referring to you. The message of User:Fowler&fowler is attached to this thread. Probably an error. Please help me for the issue I stated above 🙏 Zoglophie (talk) 16:01, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Regents, can this problem be solved? Zoglophie (talk) 13:28, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Zoglophie:. Can you point me to an article that has the structure you want to see? I'm not sure what you're looking for but, with an example, I could try. --regentspark (comment) 13:50, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Regents for example this page, Gao Ling. We can easily close/open Subsections for ease in reading the article. But in Zhao Yunlei, it is different. Zoglophie (talk) 13:56, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Okay. I have a busy morning but will take a look this afternoon. --regentspark (comment) 13:58, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

I don't see any differences between the two articles. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by close/open subsections. This sounds like a technical issue of some sort and, perhaps, you should seek help at WP:VPT. Sorry I can't be of help! --regentspark (comment) 20:43, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

June, 2020

Hello! You say Mahabharata is not reliable for Mahabharata's character. I wonder why? All secondary modern adaptions will tell you different stories. Most adaptions write rewrite the epic in their own way and also they created several fictional characters. For example Kavita Kane's Karna's wife is a fictional story. There are several books are like that. Aren't original sources most reliable? Ratan375 (talk) 05:26, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

@Ratan375: Unfortunately, there is no original source. What you're dealing with is multiple, differing, translations (multiple, differing) of multiple, differeing versions of a text that was written (told, retold) eons ago. All we can go with is scholarly interpretations of what the texts say. --regentspark (comment) 11:58, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

ARCA

I have filed a request about an arbitration decision where you had participated. You can view it here. Shashank5988 (talk) 17:03, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Patrisse Cullors reverted

Why was this reverted? In a 2015 interview, Patrisse Cullors said her and BLM co-founder Alicia Garza "have an "ideological frame"..."we are trained Marxist".

References

I would rephrase it if I were you. What, for example, does "ideological frame" mean? You need to write material that is clear and understandable. --regentspark (comment) 23:18, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Re: 'Minor' Edit article

Hi regentspark! Appreciate your talk page notification about the specific criteria for 'minor' edit. I was mistaken in my initial assumption. Regarding the sourcing for the sentence I added on the Kamma article, it is already given in the content that follows after when the caste affiliation of the Nayak groups is mentioned explicitly in the sources. Added this sentence to act as a 'connector' to the rest of the content on the Vijayanagara part. By LovSLif (talk) 00:12, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Abhimanyu

Hello there. I noticed you have removed important content from Abhimanyu, citing WP:PRIMARY. I request you not to remove anything more as it is important information. If it still has to be removed, then please do the needful to add more information. Thanks!Vinrpm.p6054 Vinrpm.p6054 (talk) 13:03, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@Vinrpm.p6054: You cannot use primary sources in the article. Please find reliable WP:Secondary sources. --regentspark (comment) 14:03, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Catherine of Aragon

Hi, thanks for your help on Catherine of Aragon. I noticed when you protected the page that you did not put in a protection icon, the padlock at the top right of the page. Would you mind doing so? Thanks. Methodonian (talk) 20:31, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done--regentspark (comment) 21:13, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Yadav-related PhD thesis - Michelutti

Hi, you queried recently the massive use of a Lucia Michelutti PhD thesis in Yadav-related articles. The thesis is easily accessible, which probably goes some way to explaining its use, but I said that I thought there was a subsequent book. I've found it now but there is no way I can afford a copy and I doubt I'll be able to get it anywhere locally (we have virtually no libraries near me nowadays, so even interlibrary loan is a pain). See Michelutti, Lucia (2008). The Vernacularisation of Democracy: Politics, Caste, and Religion in India. Routledge. ISBN 978-0-41546-732-2. - Sitush (talk) 10:09, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

I see that it is available in a covid closed library that I have access to. Hopefully, later this summer. Google provides limited access but very limited (3 Yadav pages out of 76). --regentspark (comment) 11:47, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

I think it has a lot more relevant pages if you search for articles where the thesis has been used, eg: Hindu Ghosi. - Sitush (talk) 11:49, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I have access to a digital version, but it's one of those horrid online access things that I can't download or share. Not keen on taking screenshots of 76 pages, but I'm happy to look up specific things, if you would like. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:02, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

I think it is one that needs to be read through. It is used for a lot of statements at quite a few articles & I am concerned about people missing the nuances in what is said - these are Yadav POV pushers we're dealing with, so they tend to be selective. - Sitush (talk) 16:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Yesterday you warned at User talk:Xi Himanshu Kumar

I wonder if you would pop back, have a look at the commentary below that, and consider whether sanctions ought to be implemented, please? The editor does not seem to take the advice, but your opinion may differ from mine Fiddle Faddle 16:41, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I am grateful for your uninvolved eyes. Fiddle Faddle 21:51, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for coming back to look again today. Judging by the editor's habitual pattern the disruptive edits will resume after your short acting block expires (0.99 probability). I am not arguing for a longer one at this point, though I fear that is inevitable. I just reverted yet another edit that took place almost immediately before your block. They are a pain isn the fundament, but can be handled now they are on notice. Fiddle Faddle 14:19, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

I'll drop an additional note on their talk page though, given that they appear to have a single purpose for being here, it may not help. --regentspark (comment) 14:21, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

I hope their enthusiasm can be redirected. Thank you for trying. Fiddle Faddle 15:23, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

can you please do the needful wrt repeated vadalism edits by 49.206.2.140 (talk · contribs)

Hello!

can you please do the needful wrt repeated vandalism edits by 49.206.2.140 (talk · contribs) Have just given the user final warning.

Regards, Abbasquadir (talk) 15:05, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@Abbasquadir: I've semiprotected the page. --regentspark (comment) 19:10, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Mughal Empire Flag

The flag with the sun and the lion was used by the Mughals. I verified it from following sources

• [[5]]

The flag of the Mughal empire is a rectangular green triangular banner with a lion in front of a sun, both motifs being gold. It is surrounded by red.

• [[6]]

The first two carry the lion with the sun behind it. Lion (or "Babur" in Persian, the lingua franca of the empire) was also the name of the founder of the Empire, Zaheer-ud Deen Muhammad Babur.

• [[7]]

The Lion and Sun is an old Persian emblem that was re-used by the Mughals that identify strongly with Persian culture.

• [[8]]

The Mughal Empire had a number of imperial flags and standards. The principal imperial standard of the Mughals displayed a lion and sun. The Mughals traced their use of this flag back to Timur [19]. About the historical Persian flags, it can help us the Encyclopaedia Iranica website [20]. Both the Sun and Golden Lion are symbols of kingship and royalty

• Flags of the Mughal Empire

The principal imperial standard of the Mughals was known as the alam (Alam علم). It was primarily moss green.[1] It displayed a lion and sun (Shir-u-khurshid شیر و خورشید‎) facing the hoist of the flag. The Mughals traced their use of the alam back to Timur.[2]

Fictional Flag

What could have I done if somebody uploaded the flag image with that name. 500px

@Nemo 838: Wikipedia is a reliably sourced encyclopedia. If something is labeled "fictional flag", unless you can find reliable sources for that flag, you shouldn't add it to articles. Mughal flags are uniformly unreliable so please don't add any to articles. Note also that flag icons are discouraged by the WP:MOS. --regentspark (comment) 21:02, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Got it I will restore it with the old flag

@Nemo 838: Don't restore or add any flags. They will be removed because none of them are reliably sourced.--regentspark (comment) 21:12, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Need suggestion

Hello RegentsPark, need a help here if you can better suggestion or help me out. An unser named ArnabSaha doing personal attack and revealing my personal info here. Even I've requested them twice to remove names from their comment but no response. Which is the best place to deal with it? And what are best polciices regarding to this? Please let me know, how to deal. Drat8sub (talk) 21:05, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@Drat8sub: Could you point to the diffs where they've made personal attacks and revealed your personal information (and where you told them not to). Email me the urls if you don't want to share them here. --regentspark (comment) 21:10, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Sending a mail, please remove this section too from here if possible. Drat8sub (talk) 21:45, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@Drat8sub: I've warned the user so hopefully that will stop. Meanwhile, removing your personal information will require removing all subsequent comments from that section. Let me know if you want to do that. --regentspark (comment) 22:48, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Just saw your second email. I've got rid of it. --regentspark (comment) 22:54, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, and I think you already removed that comment from there. And hope the warnings may help. Drat8sub (talk) 23:04, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

ARCA closed

I have closed the AE appeal at ARCA to which you were listed as a party. For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 23:28, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

(My apologies, the correct link is Special:Permalink/967383051#Amendment_request:_India-Pakistan.) Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 18:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I did wonder about the red link (but was too lazy to figure it out on my own)! --regentspark (comment) 18:33, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Ah'm strugglin'

Hi, I am struggling to understand someone at Talk:Kapu_(caste)#Shudra_status and they've also posted quite a bit on at User_talk:Sitush#Help. My heart is starting to sink: they are so patient and polite but I'm just not getting it and I feel bad that I might be letting them down. It is now quite a lot of reading but is there any chance of you taking a look, please. - Sitush (talk) 17:34, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

This caste stuff makes no sense to me at all but this source appears to clearly say that the kapu's are a "heterogeneous Shudra peasant caste". The discussion you point to is very confusing and it is hard to figure out what the ed is trying to say, but this particular source does seem reliable. The writer appears to be a well established social scientist who specializes in Indian social communities (publication list). Can't ask for more than that.--regentspark (comment) 18:49, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

To be clear, I'm saying "Shudra caste" is reliably sourced and should be included (ceteris paribus!) --regentspark (comment) 18:51, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, thanks. I agree that the shudra thing has to be mentioned because reliable sources do so. It's just that I think I am missing something that they are trying to explain. No worries, I will have a think to see if I can drag another name out of the hat - the pool of people with some experience of this caste malarkey and Wikipedia is pretty small. I appreciate you taking a look - it's so rare to have someone like Rimeg engaging with politeness and patience that I feel I am failing them. See, I am human, after all :) - Sitush (talk) 19:29, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

I read the discussion again (a cup of tea helps!) and I think Kautilya is right. The editor is trying to differentiate between a Kapu caste and a Kapu tribe, and wants this differentiation to be included in the article. There is probably no such thing as a Kapu tribe and I don't think you're missing anything. --regentspark (comment) 19:42, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I've just said I will give it another blast tomorrow; after that, I doubt I can do any more. - Sitush (talk) 19:47, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Leftist propagandists labeling the boogaloo movement as far right is bullshit

I tried to have civil discussion about it not being far right, as I am an expert on the movement and tried to correct the false label. The biased propagandists closed the discussion. Tanire2009 (talk) 19:21, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Don't know about all that but you can't go around attacking editors. Please read WP:NPA.--regentspark (comment) 19:23, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Prejudiced against Indian history and trying to undermine age of ancient Indian cities

Reagents Prak, you have contributed to erroneous dating of Varanasi and omission of Dwarka from the list continuously inhabited cities (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_continuously_inhabited_cities). I tried to cite reliable references but you seem prejudiced and are hell-bent on undermining Indian history.

Based on references that are as reliable as the references that were previously cited, the age of Varanasi is at least 1500-2000 BC https://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/bhu-team-unearths-4000-yr-old-crafts-village-in-varanasi-120022300355_1.

Also, the citations for Dwarka are not new original research. They have been published in peer-review journals over a decade ago. Here are the refs - Structure (rubble Wall) from 1500 BC (published in Marine Archaeology) - http://drs.nio.org/drs/bitstream/handle/2264/3085/J_Mar?sequence=2 Proof of active Indo-ROman trade in 400-500 AD (published in International journal of Nautical Archaeology - https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1095-9270.2005.00080.x

If you were specifically saying that Dwarka and Dwarka port (Bet Dwarka) are different places then you should have listed Bet Dwarka (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bet_Dwarka) in the list. But unfortunately you did not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spratap123 (talk • contribs) 21:00, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

@Spratap123: You need to find a source that explicitly confirms that Dwarka is a city that has been continuously inhabited for a couple of millenia. Merely including sources that say "a wall was found" is not enough. Regardless of all this, take this to the article talk page, that's the appropriate place for discussing this. --regentspark (comment) 21:14, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Your prejudice behavior to scientific evidence (Vandalism)

Hi,

Since you and some people working in your team are removing the scientific evidence and heavily referenced sections of Surya Siddhanta. I came to your page and see how everyone has been blaming you to be prejudice and unscientific.

I will give you a chance regardless to explain yourself.

Wikipedia is a neutral source of Information. Do you disagree?

Wikipedia is supposed to contain all point of views by several scholars. Do you disagree?

My edits are heavily referenced. Scientific experimental work done by several researchers such as Nilesh Oak, Sudarshan Bhardwaj, Rupa Bhaty, ANila Narayanan have presented their experimental works and published them.

You cannot remove a scholarly consensus on the dating of Surya Siddhanta which is purely experimental analysis and Empirical evidence published by several researchsers.