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January 5

January 5, 2021 (2021-01-05) (Tuesday)

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Russia responsible for Solar Winds hack

Article: [[The United States Intelligence Community and law enforcement agencies announce that Russia is likely responsible for the largest hack of U.S. government data in history.]] ([[Talk:The United States Intelligence Community and law enforcement agencies announce that Russia is likely responsible for the largest hack of U.S. government data in history.|talk]] · [{{fullurl:The United States Intelligence Community and law enforcement agencies announce that Russia is likely responsible for the largest hack of U.S. government data in history.|action=history}} history] · [{{fullurl:Talk:The United States Intelligence Community and law enforcement agencies announce that Russia is likely responsible for the largest hack of U.S. government data in history.|action=edit&preload=Template:ITN_candidate/note&preloadtitle=In+the+news+nomination&section=new&preloadparams%5b%5d=The+%5B%5BUnited+States+Intelligence+Community%5D%5D+and+law+enforcement+agencies+announce+that+%5B%5BRussia%5D%5D+is+likely+responsible+for+%5B%5B2020+United+States+federal+government+data+breach%7Cthe+largest+hack+of+U.S.+government+data+in+history%5D%5D.}} tag])
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)
News source(s): The Hill ,
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Nominator's comments: Notability should be self-evident. The Russians are at it again. --CoronaOneLove (talk) 23:07, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Colin Bell

Article: Colin Bell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Colin Bell: Manchester City great dies aged 74
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: English football player who made 492 394 appearances for Manchester City.  — Melly42 (talk) 20:13, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is state in the BBC article. According to the WP article he had 394 appearances. --Melly42 (talk) 20:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The infobox always refers to League appearances only. 492 will be his appearances in all competitions. P-K3 (talk) 22:52, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Tanya Roberts

Article: Tanya Roberts (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Fox News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Nomination closed yesterday. Should be reopened again. Article has been updated. No templates any longer. Regards, 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:44, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Given the circumstances, the paragraph about how her death was reported prematurely could be substantially shortened. --Tone 15:53, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Kingsif (talk) 17:01, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Yoninah: Should be done now. Kingsif (talk) 17:53, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Pungky Purnomo Wibowo

Article: Pungky Purnomo Wibowo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 13:45, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bob Brett

Article: Bob Brett (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ATPTour.com
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian tennis coach, whose clients included Becker, Ivanisevic & Cilic. The article currently has precisely zero references, but I will endeavour to whip it into shape.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:06, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

January 4

January 4, 2021 (2021-01-04) (Monday)

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(Posted) RD: M. R. Schunker

Article: M. R. Schunker (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian admiral. I've not done much to it apart from a bit of a tidy on the sources but looks OK - Dumelow (talk) 10:03, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Gordon "Butch" Stewart

Article: Gordon "Butch" Stewart (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Jamaica Gleaner
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Jamaican businessman who founded Sandals Resorts and the Jamaica Observer. Joofjoof (talk) 09:09, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Kay Ullrich

Article: Kay Ullrich (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-55531072
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Scottish MP; article well sourced and updated with details of death MurielMary (talk) 09:06, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Ready to post) RD: Barbara Shelley

Article: Barbara Shelley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/barbara-shelley-dead-british-horror-film-icon-and-queen-of-hammer-was-88
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Horror film actress; article updated and all films sourced MurielMary (talk) 07:51, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Story checks out, just missing a hyphen, but not for long. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:26, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Not checked thoroughly but I did a spot check on the sources, and didn't find they supported all the material in the paragraph where they were cited (noted in article). Also, and not restricted to this one, I don't think we should be giving all this information on cause of death. If it is later widely attributed to coronavirus in reliable sources, we can say the subject died of coronavirus on [date] at [place], but the blow-by-blow accounts are not encyclopedic, imo, except for the very well known or perhaps the much younger than average. Espresso Addict (talk) 08:30, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Which parts are "blow-by-blow accounts"? InedibleHulk (talk) 08:39, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the check Espresso Addict; a couple of claims have now been removed as they weren't supported in the sources. InedibleHulk, I also just edited the paragraph on her death as there was quite a bit of detail in there that I agree was unnecessary. MurielMary (talk) 08:41, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think it heavily implies COVID killed her by burying what her agent, who presumably knew her well, publicized to the contrary. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:45, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'm happy to go with the version of the paragraph on her death that's there now (edits by InedibleHulk and The Rambling Man). MurielMary (talk) 08:53, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, me too. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:54, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have shortened the material further, though I do think it could go down much more. The detail I particularly lacked was her appearance in Blake's 7 "Stardrive", which is what I personally recognise her from, but didn't look to be in the three given sources. I'll take another look. Espresso Addict (talk) 09:04, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My vote is only conditional on both infections being acknowledged as sickening, in any words.InedibleHulk (talk) 09:12, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The BFI lists it as 15 August 1933 and all other sources list it as 13 February 1932. I've edited the lead to "1932 or 1933" however the obits state she was 88 when she died so I've left that in the article. Any other thoughts on how to handle this? MurielMary (talk) 22:47, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
MurielMary, The way you've done it seems quite all right to me. Maybe cite the relevant sources in the lede or in the first graf of the biography section? AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 23:01, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Sandra Hutchens

Article: Sandra Hutchens (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: former Sheriff-Coroner of Orange County, California DannyS712 (talk) 07:22, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2020–21 Central African general election

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Article: 2020–21 Central African general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Faustin-Archange Touadéra (pictured) is elected for a second term as President of the Central African Republic. (Post)
News source(s): AP, AfricaNews
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Provisional results of the presidential election released. Joofjoof (talk) 05:15, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Saudi Arabia–Qatar relations

Article: Qatar diplomatic crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Saudi Arabia and Qatar agree a deal that resolves the diplomatic crisis between them. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Saudi Arabia reopens its land border with Qatar, ending the diplomatic crisis.
News source(s): Guardian, etc
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Article is detailed, but possibly more update is needed. Brandmeistertalk 20:51, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Extradition of Julian Assange to the USA Denied

Consensus will not develop.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:17, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: Julian Assange (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A UK Judge has prevented the extradition of Julian Assange to the USA due to his mental health (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Guardian,
Credits:

Article updated
 EcheveriaJ (talk) 18:57, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD:Alexi Laiho

Article: Alexi Laiho (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3] [4]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death announced on this date. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 12:13, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And how does one make it not so obvious? Constructive criticism, please. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 12:40, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Pardon? It's got a maintenance tag right at the top of the page which immediately disqualifies it and renders any support a waste of time. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:44, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Trump-Raffensperger Scandal

Consensus does not appear to be forming to post this (with unanimous opposition other than the nom at the time of closing) given Trump's previous antics, and given his personality and reputation this discussion can turn rather ugly. No prejudice against renominating this iff actual charges are filed. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 07:36, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: Trump-Raffensperger Scandal (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)
News source(s): New York Times, NBC, ABC
Credits:
 Marcosoldfox (talk) 05:44, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support An immense amount of news organizations have reported on the ongoing issue of a scandalous taped call by the US president to Georgia Secretary of state involving questionable acts. The report has become news internationally and among varying news sources from all specters and has become a piece of important conversation in international politics. Carl Bernstein has referred to it as "worse than Watergate" and many are talking about it. It made various headlines in The Washington Post and political commentators and even various senators are on the story. In the leaked call-tape Trump has said that he just needed "11,780" votes, and it has been widely reported on every news channel today and has been an ongoing issue. The evidence of the importance of this event is overwhelming. So for that I support nominating that article to the "ongoing list". — Preceding unsigned comment added by marcosoldfox (talk • contribs)
  • Oppose Unless actual charges are identified and placed on the President (it would have to be by GA), this would be more antics in his post-election loss, which we have avoided covering at this point. The significance of this is not lost, but it far too premature form an ITN to be posting anything. --Masem (t) 05:51, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Trump does Trump things, film at 11. power~enwiki (π, ν) 05:57, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Just another example of why Trump lost the election. There have been dozens of these throughout his time as President. All appalling, but this one is no worse than many others. Let's just hope that in three weeks time all this nonsense will be fading away never to be seen again. HiLo48 (talk) 06:01, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - echoing Masem's comment above. No official charges (as of yet). TJMSmith (talk) 06:10, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

January 3

January 3, 2021 (2021-01-03) (Sunday)

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(Closed) RD: Tanya Roberts

Thankfully false reports of her death. Stephen 22:45, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: Tanya Roberts (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
 Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 10:33, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
WTH? I improved this article and satisfied the tags. And now you've closed it? It just got posted in the morning. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:45, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
[[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]], take a look at the link KConWiki posted above. She's not dead. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:56, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Good for her. But I feel like I got all dressed up and have no place to go. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 23:57, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is why we wait for the article to be updated and, in particular, well-sourced before posting.--WaltCip-(talk) 02:55, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, many mainstream sources were corroborating it for many hours e.g. BBC. Probably unavoidable here unless we apply WP:RSBREAKING for all RDs and say wait a day. —Bagumba (talk) 09:37, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
See here 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:14, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Rosa Giannetta

Article: Rosa Giannetta (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.ilgiornale.it/news/cronache/morta-75-anni-rosa-giannetta-alberoni-moglie-francesco-1914125.html
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Italian novelist and sociologist; article updated and sourced. MurielMary (talk) 10:27, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Elena Santiago

Article: Elena Santiago (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): We Publish News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Spanish writer. The main text is largely fine but the works and awards sections need referencing. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 09:06, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ali Taher

Article: Ali Taher (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 08:50, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Brian Urquhart

Article: Brian Urquhart (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times; The Washington Post
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 00:37, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Dumelow: Just remove it. This is coming from the nominator and creator. BTW does RD has a certain time limit for inclusion?Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 16:52, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The time limit is being discussed at Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news#How_many_days?. Hanif Al Husaini}} (talk) 17:04, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Hanif Al Husaini: What I mean here is how long an article could be displayed in the RD section of the mainpage. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 02:08, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 PDC World Darts Championship

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Article: 2021 PDC World Darts Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In darts, Gerwyn Price (pictured) wins the PDC World Darts Championship. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Sporting championship not listed on WP:ITNR but has been posted for the previous three years. OZOO (t) (c) 22:13, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support in principle, oppose on quality de facto ITNR at this point (I'm surprised we waited this long to post it, it's usually the first story of the new year), but the first paragraph of "Background and qualification" is uncited. Other than that it seems ready to go. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 07:39, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality the article needs more sourcing, and a proper copyedit for tense fixes (current and future tenses still being used in most of the article). Joseph2302 (talk) 08:50, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Gerry Marsden

Article: Gerry Marsden (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN, BBC, The Guardian, Independent
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: English musician, leader of the band Gerry and the Pacemakers. The article needs more citations. Alexcalamaro (talk) 21:03, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Subiakto Tjakrawerdaya

Article: Subiakto Tjakrawerdaya (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 15:59, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Hank Adams

Article: Hank Adams (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press; Indian Country Today; Seattle Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Lifelong Native American activist who had a hand in shaping several significant indigenous civil rights events in the last 60 years within the United States. Cedar777 (talk) 04:35, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Mike Reese

Article: Mike Reese (Pennsylvania politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Pennsylvania House Republican Caucus
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Pennsylvania state representative from the fifty-ninth district. – UncomfortablySmug (talk) 00:02, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

January 2

January 2, 2021 (2021-01-02) (Saturday)

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(Posted) RD: Alex Asmasoebrata

Article: Alex Asmasoebrata (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 04:11, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Pierantonio Costa

Article: Pierantonio Costa (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New Times Rwanda
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Italian Consul in Rwanda during the Rwandan Genocide. Article has shaped up into a good Start-class C-class biography. There is some more content in Italian that can be used to expand the article. However, I do not know the language. If someone has a good knowledge of either Rwanda or of Italian, they can lend a hand in expanding the article. Irrespective, the article meets hygiene expectations to go to homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 21:40, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. Seems reasonable. —Brigade Piron (talk) 22:28, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. The article says "He was also the Italian Honorary consul in Kigali, Rwanda, from 1998 to 2003" but then says "it was during his time as the Consul, that the Rwandan genocide would break out from April 6 to July 21, 1994". This doesn't seem right, as 1994 is not in the period 1998 to 2003. Also, as a lesser point, please edit to remove these "would" statements. The above should say "the Rwandan genocide broke out", not "the Rwandan genocide would break out". Although I have some knowledge of Rwandan topics, I haven't heard of this guy specifically, so can't comment on completeness... but the article looks OK to me apart from these points.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:52, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the "would" stuff is very USEngVar. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:44, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unfortunately there are newer RDs that have to push this off, as the new system means that older ones are no longer stale if they get improved. There is no consensus for minimum duration or increasing the RD count, so the community will have to find other solutions if this volume is to be sustained. Stephen 21:03, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    I have raised a comment about this sort of issue over at WT:ITN. I am not sure if another RFC is needed, but technically Stephen is correct that our current rules specify hard figures of six RDs and seven days for nominations, while not specifying any minimum time for them to be live. Hence they can roll off after just 9 hours. It may be that our preference is to actually have compromise on one of the other variables, rather than the duration one, but we need to iron that out. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 21:10, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks @Amakuru and Stephen:. I had a response to your original comment there, which I think is reasonable. Link here. An article falling off the carousel in 9 hours comes across as harsh on multiple fronts, including on the editors who have expended significant effort on the articles. Speaking of this article, Pierantonio Costa, I personally spent ~4 hours last evening in getting this article ready for homepage, including going to multiple sources and rebuilding almost from scratch. It just seems very harsh that we can not afford 24 hours on the homepage to these articles. At the end of the day, it is a queue management problem and we can definitely do that. Ktin (talk) 21:18, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Some articles get days, some get minutes, and some (more so under the old system) get improved too late and have no time at all. Editors spend a lot of time improving article for DYK, and they only get 12 hours per set. As I said above, there is no current consensus for a minimum time. If a more recent article is of sufficient quality why should it be delayed at the risk that it then doesn’t get it’s time in the spotlight because more comes along to push it off. This discussion should probably be moved over to talk and seek wider input. Stephen 21:30, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Paul Westphal

Article: Paul Westphal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
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Nominator's comments: Needs sourcing, hopefully you can help? – Muboshgu (talk) 21:55, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2020 Gjerdrum landslide

Article: 2020 Gjerdrum landslide (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Seven bodies have been found following a landslide that destroyed homes in Norway. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At least seven people are killed in a landslide in Ask, Norway.
News source(s): BBC, AP, dpa (in English), Aftenposten (in Norwegian)
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Article updated

 Sherenk1 (talk) 17:34, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Remember the Maine!" – Sca (talk) 22:57, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
On Monday, aid workers said they still had hope of finding survivors. – Sca (talk) 15:33, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
PS: We could do without the word "massive," a journalism cliché. – Sca (talk) 15:54, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Buta Singh

Article: Buta Singh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Times of India
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Indian Politican Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:45, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

January 1

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RD Elmira Minita Gordon

Article: Elmira Minita Gordon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Breaking Belize News
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Nominator's comments: First Governor of Belize following independence; first credentialed Belizean psychologist. Innisfree987 (talk) 22:34, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Paige Rense

Article: Paige Rense (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
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Nominator's comments: American writer and editor in chief of Architectural Digest magazine from 1975 until 2010. TJMSmith (talk) 05:44, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Floyd Little

Article: Floyd Little (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN Denver Post
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Nominator's comments: American football player. Article needs a little work on referencing and prose, I'll try to get on it - Dumelow (talk) 10:12, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 2021 Tribistovo poisoning

(non-admin closure) Closure on the basis of WP:SNOW. Consensus not to post. ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 17:28, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 2021 Tribistovo poisoning (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Eight people are killed by carbon monoxide poisoning in a cottage in Tribistovo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, during a New Year's celebration. (Post)
News source(s): AP
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Article updated
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African Continental Free Trade Area

Article: African Continental Free Trade Area (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The African Continental Free Trade Area enters into force on January 1, 2021. (Post)
News source(s): (Al Jazeera), (France 24)
Credits:

Nominator's comments: The article could still use a bit of updating, buts its clearly ITN and has a massive impact on the second largest continent by area and population. Any help to get it up to stuff would be appreciated! Albertaont (talk) 03:18, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) RD: Sandy Grant Gordon

Stale. Stephen 05:00, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Sandy Grant Gordon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WSJ
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Single malt whisky pioneer. Glenfiddich distillery. Death announced only today in this part of the world. However, announced earlier in Scotland, and I did not know. My love for single malt aside, if someone feels too strong about not including this article in WP:ITNRD because of this date issue, I can totally understand. Ktin (talk) 01:38, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Mark Eden

Article: Mark Eden (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: British actor with a long career and an almost entirely unsourced filmography. Kingsif (talk) 15:50, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Carlos do Carmo

Article: Carlos do Carmo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Morreu o fadista Carlos do Carmo from Sapo.pt (in Portuguese)
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Portuguese fado singer. A few refs needed, and the discography, but I'll have a go at doing that.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:12, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Adobe Flash retired

No consensus to post will develop. Sandstein 12:20, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Adobe Flash (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Adobe Flash, one of the earliest and most popular ways to watch videos and play games on the internet, is retired by Adobe. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: A curious technology blurb for consideration Kingsif (talk) 09:56, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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December 31

December 31, 2020 (2020-12-31) (Thursday)

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(Posted) RD: Joan Micklin Silver

Article: Joan Micklin Silver (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
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Nominator's comments: Needs a good amount of work. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 04:23, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Dick Thornburgh

Article: Dick Thornburgh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American politician; among his career titles, he served as the U.S Attorney General under Presidents Reagan and HW Bush and was the Governor of Pennsylvania before that Tunestoons (talk) 07:26, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jolanta Fedak

Article: Jolanta Fedak (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://wiadomosci.wp.pl/jolanta-fedak-nie-zyje-miala-60-lat-6592223678036800a
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Polish member of parliament; article updated and sourced MurielMary (talk) 21:56, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support – article is concise but past stub class. It is also well referenced. TJMSmith (talk) 04:47, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Stubby, some possible translation infelicities. There is nothing about her career outside politics, and what she did in office when she achieved it. Also no personal life at all (spouse, children). The date of her post-grad study would be useful (at least was it immediately after her undergrad education or later). Plenty to time to expand. I can't assess the given sources, which are nearly all Polish language. Espresso Addict (talk) 07:00, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Some details have been added. MurielMary (talk) 11:21, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted Stephen 00:19, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Stephen, Another case of starting from the top when we have discussed starting from the bottom might be the more optimal way to post. Ktin (talk) 00:35, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Stephen, and, fwiw -- this article was NOT ready. It clearly fails the Spencer test. The article is just a listing of political offices and elections contested. There is absolutely nothing about the Fedak's political career in terms of work done, topics and policies advanced. Ktin (talk) 00:53, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Spencer's views on how much detail is necessary in a political biography are not shared by all of us here and should not hold up posting an item that meets the RD criteria.P-K3 (talk) 14:01, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Pawnkingthree, water under the bridge now, but, expecting an article to have details about the work that a person did rather than just a listing of positions / elections seems reasonable to me. That said, other than that vital detail, this article is clean and meets hygiene requirements for homepage / RD. While I continue to maintain that this posting was rushed and also that was posted from the top rather than the bottom, I do not / will not make a case for removing this article from homepage. I would also want to acknowledge MurielMary and TJMSmith 's efforts in shaping the article. Onwards and upwards. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 14:11, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: MF Doom

Article: MF Doom (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Complex
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: British rapper, songwriter, and record producer. UncomfortablySmug (talk) 21:45, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Narendra Kumar (mountaineer)

Article: Narendra Kumar (mountaineer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Outlook India
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Indian mountaineer. Article requires some work on sourcing, but, doable in case someone can get to it before me. Else, I will get to it sometime this afternoon. Comprehensive rewrite of the article completed. Took a little longer due to my off-wiki commitments. But, the article is well sourced and is ready to go. Ktin (talk) 18:58, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you are expert on Indian issues, it would probably be best if you work at it first. I've hacked a bit out of the lead on neutrality grounds. Probably wise to run it through Earwig before working on it, chunks probably originated elsewhere. Espresso Addict (talk) 07:09, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Espresso Addict, Ktin Yeah, Earwig does not look good at all. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 17:32, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's looking better now, but there are still multiple small copied phrases. I've purged those from two sources but they're still coming up from other places. Not looked at this in detail otherwise, but just to start with the list of awards in the lead could do with pruning to the most prestigious and the tone is still a bit too laudatory. Espresso Addict (talk) 02:43, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Espresso Addict, please tone down the snark re: the text in the parenthesis. Ktin (talk) 02:55, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There was no intentional snark, sorry. I've removed the irrelevant aside. Espresso Addict (talk) 03:05, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Espresso Addict, I have removed three awards from the lede, though I think that was not necessary. The latest Copvio report is here. I do not see any more reasons to hold this article back. Ktin (talk) 03:02, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As I said above, there is still copying from sources. Walking away from this. Espresso Addict (talk) 03:08, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Tommy Docherty

Article: Tommy Docherty (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Former Manchester United manager, aged 92, sources need some work which I will get to later JW 1961 Talk 16:59, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

UNAMID

Article: United Nations–African Union Mission in Darfur (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The mandate for the United Nations–African Union Mission in Darfur, instituted in 2007 amid the War in Darfur, officially expires. (Post)
News source(s): Refworld, Al Jazeera
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Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: UNAMID, begun in 2007, was one of the largest and most controversial UN peacekeeping missions. Its mandate expires on 31 December, beginning a six-month drawdown period. In common with much of our UN coverage, the article is unfortunately not in a good state and needs quite a bit of TLC. —Brigade Piron (talk) 10:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The mandate expires, so UNAMID itself expires? That is a notable consequence. It will explicitly not be replaced, and its activities are now restricted to securing its own withdrawal. Please actually read the links before voting. —Brigade Piron (talk) 21:36, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Roy B.B. Janis

Article: Roy B.B. Janis (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

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 Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 06:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Muladi

Article: Muladi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

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 Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 06:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Alto Reed

Article: Alto Reed (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Billboard
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Nominator's comments: Renowned saxophonist and member of Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band. UncomfortablySmug (UncomfortablySmug) 05:28, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

December 30

December 30, 2020 (2020-12-30) (Wednesday)

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RD: Samuel Little

Article: Samuel Little (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBS News KGET
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American serial killer who the FBI called "the most prolific serial killer in United States history." Article is well sourced. TuckerTVG (whaddya want, loser?) 17:41, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Article is in the main well sourced, though some of those sources could be added to support confirmed and suspected victims sections JW 1961 Talk 18:52, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support Article is well written and subject is clearly notable - "involved in at least fifty murders, the largest number of proven cases for any serial killer in United States history". Died on December 30 though not December 31. Inexpiable (talk) 20:50, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Article is good to go. Sourced and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 20:52, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - looks good from here. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:06, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: There's no source for the "Confirmed murder victims" list and the "Suspected murder victims" list is only partly referenced (the source at the end of the explanatory sentence does not have a list of victims). From a BLP point of view I feel this should be addressed - Dumelow (talk) 21:51, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I found a second source for the suspect list (newer page from the FBI). The Confirmed ones would appear to be those already mentioned in the body so it would be a matter of bringing references down. --Masem (t) 05:09, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. This might be just a visceral dislike for articles of this sort, but the long list of suspected cases struck me as hugely problematic. It feels like a discography or filmography, glorifying his work. These victims will probably have living family. Personally I'd just delete it -- any notable ones can be discussed in the text -- but I don't edit such articles at all. It certainly needs every entry individually cited to a reliable source. Espresso Addict (talk) 06:01, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The "suspected" list strikes me as an WP:UNDUE enumeration. Sure, he defined by his collective murders, but not to the extent that they need to be in a WP:FANCRUFT table of trivial data. Do not need this on the MP.—Bagumba (talk) 09:13, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Aldo Andretti

Article: Aldo Andretti (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WTHR, Speed Sport
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: The other half of the patriarchs of the famous Andretti open-wheel and NASCAR racing dynasty alongside his twin brother Mario. The Bushranger One ping only 20:18, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Ronald Atkins

Article: Ronald Atkins (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: British politician, former Member of Parliament (1966–1970, 1974–1979), dies at age 104. Longest-lived former MP. Davey2116 (talk) 19:06, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Indira Joseph Venniyoor

Article: Indira Joseph Venniyoor (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New Indian Express The Hindu
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Nominator's comments: Indian radio broadcaster. A bit on the shorter side, but article has shaped to be a solid Start-class biography. C-class biography. Ktin (talk) 20:28, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Article looks good, if I had to comment on one thing, though, it would be to add some more referencing. TuckerTVG (whaddya want, loser?) 21:15, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Short but good for RD - I could only check the 3 English language sources, they seem fine. JW 1961 Talk 21:22, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Referenced and updated. MurielMary (talk) 21:54, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Black Kite: -- you might have missed posting this one when you just posted Elaine McCoy and Amelia Lapeña-Bonifacio. Please can you help post. Ktin (talk) 01:46, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Stephen, Dumelow, Bagumba, and Amakuru: -- Pardon the intrusion. Please can I request one of you to take a look. This one seems odd, maybe inadvertent, but, I think Black Kite might be offline. Appreciate a look. Ktin (talk) 02:01, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Sorry, I can't assess this (per request below), as the key source isn't in a language I can read. The lead/infobox facts currently lack direct citations eg the year of birth. The lead could do with making clear that the two broadcasting positions mentioned are actually the same under different names. There's a lack of detail on her career, versus her childhood and personal life. Also not 100% sure on notability, to be honest -- radio news announcers have a hard time demonstrating notability; I've even seen such articles speedy tagged by new-page patrollers. I notice the two broadcasters she notes as inspiration do not appear to have articles. I don't think the two English-language articles are enough alone to fully satisfy GNG, they're very brief, and a lot of the other sources are not notability conferring. Espresso Addict (talk) 03:46, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Espresso Addict, The lede and infobox have computed dates. Don't think we will need citations for those. Regarding foreign language sources, we consistently use them. I personally have used (and others too use) a good amount of German and occasional Spanish resources on the RD submissions. That should not preclude the article, nor should it cast questions on overall notability. That said, if you'd prefer you can use a translator such as Google translate. I ran one now, and the results are not too shabby. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 05:30, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, foreign language sources are fine, but someone has to check them! I can read German a little, so I tend to check those here. I would never use Google translate except to just get a quick ballpark idea of what the source might cover. Also the standards of checking necessary for a new article are higher than for an older one; anything that's survived six months here with multiple editors working on it can usually be assumed to be broadly notable. A new article can't. Espresso Addict (talk) 06:29, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Espresso Addict, I am tagging @Tachs: whom I consider as an SME on Malayalam language / Kerala related topics and articles on WP to review the sources, particularly the ones in Malayalam. Tachs pardon the bother -- can I request you to look at the Malayalam language sources if you have a bit. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 06:49, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The article is reasonably well sourced, three of them, The Hindu, Indian Express and Mathrubhumi, are reliable sources. Regarding the quality of the article, it is a decently written one. I have suggested a few alterations, which are minor ones. --jojo@nthony (talk) 07:42, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Tachs, Thanks Tachs. Much appreciated. Ktin (talk) 07:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose per Espresso Addict. I looked at this one last night, and was struck by how little detail the career section had, for what was a 34 year career. Other than a catchphrase used to open her radio show, it's not clear from the article why she's significant. I decided to just pass it by rather than Oppose, as maybe others feel differently. But now EA has said the same thing I will echo it. If she really meets GNG, then there must be more detail available than what we're giving now. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 10:12, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Dawn Wells

Article: Dawn Wells (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Best known as Mary Ann from Gilligan's Island. Sourcing problems in article. Masem (t) 19:22, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2020 Aden airport attack

Article: 2020 Aden airport attack (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Explosions rocked Aden airport in Yemen killing at least twenty five people soon after a plane carrying the new government arrived from Saudi Arabia. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ An attack at Aden airport shortly after the arrival of Yemen's new unity government leaves dozens dead and over one hundred injured.
News source(s): BBC, AP, Reuters, Guardian
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Developing. Sherenk1 (talk) 15:03, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Abortion in Argentina

(non-admin closure) No consensus to post. ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 17:38, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Abortion_in_Argentina (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Argentina become the third South American country to legalize abortion. (Post)
Credits:
 --Lmalena (talk) 15:13, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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December 29

December 29, 2020 (2020-12-29) (Tuesday)

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

(Posted) RD: Agitu Ideo Gudeta

Article: Agitu Ideo Gudeta (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Ethiopian refugee farmer who was killed in Italy on December 29. TJMSmith (talk) 17:22, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have restored this to the 7th item for now. What would be nice is some automated tracking of how long each RD is up for to get an idea of what the new expected dwell time is; 24 hours might not be achievable. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:26, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: John Paul Jr.

Article: John Paul Jr. (racing driver) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Yahoo Sports obit
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death from Huntington's Disease of 1980s-1990s Indianapolis 500, IndyCar Series, 24 Hours of Le Mans and 24 Hours of Daytona driver with two IndyCar wins and two 24 Hours of Daytona wins, in addition to being notorious for his involvement in the 1980s drug trade. The Bushranger One ping only 23:12, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Lorraine Monk

Article: Lorraine Monk (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Globe and Mail
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Canadian photographer and contemporary history chronogropher. Death announced on this date. Article requires good amount of work. Will get to it this evening. Done and done! Happy with the way the article has shaped up. For someone who led all those photography initiatives, it is a bit of a sad note that we do not have a photo of hers. RIP Ms. Monk. I am calling it a day, but, do not foresee major edits on this article. Good to go imo. Article now has images added. Looks beautiful. Great partnership AleatoryPonderings and Masem. Thanks folks. Ktin (talk) 22:36, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Elaine McCoy

Article: Elaine McCoy (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/alberta-maverick-elaine-mccoy-remembered-as-strong-voice-in-canadian-senate
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: C class article on Canadian Senator; updated and fully referenced MurielMary (talk) 11:30, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment death is now mentioned, and I note from the guidelines on article quality for RD that "one or two "citation needed" tags may not hold up an article" therefore the missing refs shouldn't prevent this nomination from being posted. MurielMary (talk) 18:47, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Howard J. Rubenstein

Article: Howard J. Rubenstein (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Post
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American PR mogul - Dumelow (talk) 08:44, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Luke Letlow

Article: Luke Letlow (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MSN
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: U.S. congressman-elect from Louisiana's fifth congressional district. UncomfortablySmug (talk) 02:47, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Josefina Echánove

Article: Josefina Echánove (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.gob.mx/cultura/prensa/la-secretaria-de-cultura-y-el-inbal-lamentan-el-deceso-de-josefina-echanove?idiom=es>
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Mexican television and film actress MurielMary (talk) 00:48, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can you clarify which part of the guideline on the quality of RD articles you consider has not been met, with regards to the guidelines here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news#Article_quality ? TIA MurielMary (talk) 11:34, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
MurielMary, other than the filmography (set of bullets) this article is currently a stub. We have not promoted articles of a stubby nature to homepage / RD in the past. Ktin (talk) 11:39, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. It is under 1500 characters of prose per the DYK counter. I'd expect more on a selection of her notable film roles from reviews or similar. There isn't even a comment on her two award nominations, beyond the fact of the nominations, and those films are not listed in the filmography. Not an expert in fair-use custom here (it's a lot stricter than the UK norms), but we've often held off putting such images into articles until a few months after death, to allow a full search to be made for free images. @The Rambling Man: for an expert opinion. Espresso Addict (talk) 02:58, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Well yes, it seems unlikely that in the time between her death and the upload of the image that a satisfactory amount of searching and requesting for a free image has been conducted. I would oppose all the while that non-free image is there. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:18, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Amelia Lapeña-Bonifacio

Article: Amelia Lapeña-Bonifacio (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Manila Bulletin
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Filipino playwright, puppeteer, and educator. Article needs some work. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 16:51, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2020 Petrinja earthquake

Article: 2020 Petrinja earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A magnitude 6.4 earthquake strikes Petrinja, Croatia, with many injuries and at least one death. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, AP, Reuters)
Credits:

Article updated

 Sherenk1 (talk) 13:54, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Pierre Cardin

Stale. ~ Destroyer🌀🌀 13:37, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Pierre Cardin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Italian-French fashion designer Pierre Cardin dies at the age of 98. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Legendary fashion designer. Needs work. Black Kite (talk) 12:41, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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