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EastEnders was one of the Media and drama good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Albert Square was copied or moved into EastEnders with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.
I saw that the page had been vandalized, the first paragraph was replaced with an offensive comment and then a link to a twitter page. I removed the comment, but as the original paragraph had been deleted, I was not able to replace it. The user who replaced it was User:Flimgier, so if anyone can contact them, please do so.— Preceding unsigned comment added by TrippCeyssens (talk • contribs)
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why on Sharon Watts character page you put former character she hasnt left for good cause the boss said on digital spy after the episode aired that she is only gone for a while and will be back and he said there are lots more to come from Sharon Linda Kathy Stacey Suki and Denise 2A02:C7C:A452:3900:81D1:4DFC:8175:E1DD (talk) 22:25, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Black characters
The assertion that Coronation Street only began to feature black characters after Eastenders started to air is factually incorrect. The black character Shirley Armitage was a Coronation Street regular from 1983 to 1989. Cables93 (talk) 08:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
EastEnders logo needs changing as it updated from todag
I've noticed that the page "The Queen Victoria" has been turned into a redirect following a request to delete in October. This leaves about 300 pages linking to "Queen Vic Fire Week" via that redirect and others. My feeling is that the Queen Vic deserves at least a section of its own, if not a whole page, but I haven't watched EastEnders since 1986, so I'm not in the best place to decide how to proceed. Could we convene a discussion of the regular editors of EastEnders-related pages to figure out how best to move forward?
Pinging @DaniloDaysOfOurLives and FishLoveHam:Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 21:52, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The page lacked substantial coverage from reliable secondary sources, which are necessary for creating a separate article. The topic of "Queen Victoria Fire Week" was retained, as it is supported by the secondary sources required for an article. As a compromise, expanding the section on Queen Victoria Fire Week to include additional information about the Queen vic itself could be considered if more reliable sources are found. Jontesta (talk) 23:17, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But you've missed a very important point. "The Queen Victoria" isn't a "fork" or subtopic of "Queen Vic Fire Week"; it's one of the main locations of "EastEnders", a popular British soap opera. To delete it is a bit like deleting "London" on the grounds that the same material is better covered by "Great Fire of London".
I don't deny that the article needs work, but a quick google will convince you that substantial coverage exists in numerous independent sources. It could conceivably be reconstituted as a subsection of one of the other pages on EastEnders locations, but I think the best solution would be to reverse the deletion and move forward from there. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 23:31, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not a great analogy. London is real. The Queen Vic is fiction and does not exist outside of Eastenders plots, Queen Vic Fire Week being one of them. A section as suggested by Jean-de-Nivelle, seems like a reasonable idea. It could be argued that the Queen Vic could be treated as a "character". --Escape Orbit(Talk)10:49, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see that the fictionality of EastEnders particularly invalidates the analogy. The Queen Vic isn't just a fictional pub though - it exists as a real film set (in fact more than one), and the article as it existed until recently contained many details about the physical reality of the set and the real-world development of the fictional place that would be out of place in an article about a particular set of fictional events.
@Jean-de-Nivelle Start by giving the pub its own section, perhaps under "Setting". It there later proves to be enough content and sources coverage specific to the Queen Vic, then perhaps there is an argument for restoring a separate article, and moving content to there.. Escape Orbit(Talk)15:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]