User talk:Bearcat/Archive 1

Older (pre-2005) talk moved to User talk:Bearcat/Archived discussion.

Alberta general election, 2004

Thanks for linking the listing of my candidacy to my user page. I corrected the slight typo (there's no space in my user name, although once I noticed other users using spaces I wished I had done the same). GrantNeufeld 14:14, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Kim Maltman

I'm curious why you added Kim Maltman to the list of Canadian mathematicians, especially since there are so few entries in that list. I don't think Kim would describe himself as a mathematician. He is a physicist who happens to be employed by the York department of mathematics. Hayne 05:20, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Category:Gay or lesbian politicians

...is on CfD. I'd instinctively vote strong keep (possibly rename to include bi & trans) but would like to know, first, how you think it'd best be dealt with... Samaritan 20:25, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

List of Alberta general elections

Federal elections - what was I thinking? My excuse is that I've never really figured out the whole categories thing. I plan to add articles on the rest of the elections today, and will use the category you've identified. Thanks for cleaning up after me. Kevintoronto 14:45, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Canadian federal election, 2005

Hey, could you take a look over at the talk page, an edit you made basically did what I suggested some months ago. I wonder if we should change the wording to reflect when those alignments may occur? - Jord 19:02, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hehehe, I never do, that's why I pointed you to it, I assumed you hadn't! ;) - Jord 19:12, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Jam 1575

I didn't speak up last time, it was deleted, then it was undeleted, is back pro forma, and I'm doing penance. Samaritan 06:47, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Discontinuous Due South?

Oddly, the dab page calls them "two Canadian television series presented in one format in the United States," while the only real difference by which they might be listed as two series was that they were on CBS, then syndication, in the States (and it possibly switched telecasters elsewhere at this point, of course.)

TV North: Everything You Wanted to Know About Canadian Television (a nifty $2 find at a Coles recently) lists it as one series, first broadcast April 23, 1994 at 9p with the movie, first regular broadcast Saturday September 22 at 9p, last broadcast 1998.

I guess they could very well have been nominally separate series for purposes, say, of union scale - the "first," as a bigger-budget US network production, paying better, the second less so. Even if this were true, I don't think this is good reason to split the series into two articles. Samaritan 08:08, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

but what to do about...

Blue Tory (and common sense conservative)? The former reads like something derived from high school lecture notes, a much-less-bad vector of what used to stand at Canadian Conservatives before I redirected it to the CPC. (I resolved to save the Neoconservatism section, but ended up with nothing useful, so I wrote up Neoconservativism (Canada) from scratch.) The latter should be moved to common sense conservatism and/or merged with Common Sense Revolution. It would need work, though. (Reagan was much more ideologically rigid than Thatcher? This movement "spread" from the Anglosphere to evangelical Christian communities? And for Latin America, don't they mean Catholic?) Thoughts? Samaritan 05:23, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

About that magazine in List of Toronto Media Outlet thing

Should Xtra be listed again along with all other previously mentioned magazines down where magazines is? Or should they be moved down. People looking for the magazine only could miss their listing in the Alternative section. Should it be listed in Alternative anymore than the women's magazine? Just want some conference so there won't be an revert war cause I am so tired of those. - Arsha Nos Mondelle

Help with vandalization

List of songs deemed inappropriate by Clear Channel following the September 11, 2001 attacks has been repetiately vandalized in the last few days. On top of that, one user is constantly adding in information that we have not agreed apon on the talk page and refuses to discuss it. I'm suggesting having the page protected. -- [[User:LGagnon|LGagnon]] 05:38, Jan 21, 2005 (UTC)

Taking out "GLBT people" category

I appreciate what you're doing by adding people to subcategories within the overall GLBT schema, but I don't understand why you're removing the "GLBT people" (or whatever the precise name for that category is) list in the process. It doesn't have to be an either/or thing. I think there's great value in having one generic GLBT category that people can peruse without having to go into a subcategory list. Once you eliminate that category, we won't be able to put the full list back together again. I don't understand why people can't be in both categories simultaneously, i.e., Gay writers and GLBT people. Moncrief 11:33, Jan 22, 2005 (UTC)

Agree with Moncrief. GLBT people could be retained. Additional, is there a consistent naming convention you're using? You added Andrew Tobias to the category "Gay writers" but another category you used was "LGBT rights activists" (which becomes confusing in its own right because LGBT rights activisits need not be LGBT - see Judy Garland in that cateory). Autiger 00:17, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I'd also agree. Having an overall category for GLBT people is a valuable research tool. Jonathunder 03:36, 2005 Jan 23 (UTC)

Appreciate the explanation. I had wondered if 'Lesbian writers' was a category too. I was just concerned about the consistency of naming for someone trying to find similar categories. Also, one could reasonable have 'Gay musicians' and 'Lesbian musicians' because "womyn's music" seems to be a fairly distinct genre. GLBT naming is just a difficult subject area, period. Autiger 07:32, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for your queer-related edits. You are a great dude!--Sonjaaa 09:13, Jan 24, 2005 (UTC)

Neoliberalism in Canada

Hello, I noticed your work with Samaritan on the Neoconservatism (Canada) article and I wanted to ask you a question about the difference between Neoliberalism and Neoconservatism in Canada. I've posed this question to Samaritan as well but he hasn't responded yet.

With what parameters do you seperate Neoconservative policies from Neoliberal policies in Canada? I ask because the two systems seem to share most economic beliefs such as increased free trade and reduced government spending. If Neoconservatism differs because of values including a much more self-interested, realist approach to international relations and a tendency towards social conservatism, would for example the governments of Chrétien and Martin be better mentioned in a seperate paragraph or article about Neoliberalism in Canada? This would assist in contrasting them with the policies of for example Harper and Klein. Thanks, Kurieeto 16:46, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)

Bernie Hansen

...seems to be the Jack Layton of Chicago ward bosses, noted for his environmentalism and human rights advocacy. Support his non-deletion? Samaritan 18:33, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/St. Thomas University Students' Union

You made a really valid point there, and that's sort of what I was trying to get across. I was also trying to say the precent was already set. However, they don't seem to listen. I apologize for putting up St. Thomas Tommies on VfD, I was trying to make a point in regards to the SU VfD, although I suspect it's gone unnoticed. --Spinboy 19:28, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

FYI Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Glasgow University Union --Spinboy 06:01, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Two South

Maybe they're using a British source that uses "series" for what North Americans call "season", and reading in the North American definition? Besides the clever but probably too obscure union explanation, that's the best I can figure. The meme was probably also motivated, at some point, by the idea that the franchise declined such that it was also rhetorically a different series. So here's an idea! Let's go to Star Trek or The Simpsons and start making similar claims. We'd probably find support. But Wikipedia is not jumptheshark.com... :) Samaritan 07:14, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Channel m

... and the Guardian, who owns it. Fascinating – and I could see a cosmic tradeoff, whereby Torstar's local stations, if they'd been licensed, would have ended up broadcasting mostly ITV shows... Samaritan 06:36, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Brain worker

Bearcat, did you delete Brain worker on any particular basis? It was listed on Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English as probably written in Estonian. That shouldn't be a candidate for speedy delete, unless you read that language and know it qualified as a speedy... -- Jmabel | Talk 07:35, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, yes, that seems about right. Couldn't tell that from the deletion comment, which just quoted the text, I thought someone was saying it was literally gibberish; we've nearly lost a few good articles that way. Again, sorry. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:49, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)

The Gay Template: sounds like a b-movie...

Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Gay. Samaritan 14:57, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Template:LGBT is clearly superior. It is missing History of sexuality and Sexual minority cultures, the LGBT equivalent of List of gay-rights organizations, and perhaps gender. Hyacinth 20:10, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

James Albert Manning Aikens

In fairness to yourself, you *did* manage to get the Bob Wood situation right the first time. 1 out of 2 successful navigations of a bewildering disambiguation knot probably isn't too bad ...

(I wonder if I should tell Earl that I called the page "Bob Wood (Ontario provincial politician}" for a reason ...) CJCurrie 02:16, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

DYK

Good job... sounds daring for the 1940s. 68.81.231.127 18:25, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for tech tip

Thanks for the tech tip on using a colon to link to a category instead of assigning the category. GrantNeufeld 18:37, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Universities and colleges

I didn't realize the typo until 2 seconds before I got your message. I won't go chaging your edit. --Spinboy 03:28, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing out the improper category in Alice Robitaille. I will start the lengthy job of correcting these to be musicians etc. from their country only in accordance with Wikipedia policy. JillandJack 15:57, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia needs an LGBT-related notice board

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Lovers' Legends: The Gay Greek Myths Samaritan 14:22, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Wah. If I'd known Reflections Cabaret was clearly nn, I wouldn't have bothered cleaning it up... (You sure the long-running Coast reader poll title doesn't suggest at least enough local notoriety to get through?) Samaritan 18:44, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Sigh, and now Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Gay skinheads. Samaritan 16:35, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Bearcat. I encourage you to visit Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 May 7. Wikipedia really needs a GLBT noticeboard for stuff like this. Jonathunder 04:05, 2005 May 8 (UTC)

Inspired by Jonathunder's idea, I have created a LGBT noticeboard. Please take a look. -- Samuel Wantman 07:05, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Capitalization

First, thank you for fixing the mayor/reeve entries. I wasn't initially aware that there was any particular Wikipedia policy re: the capitalization of these terms. I've started using lower-case letters for both in recent weeks, and could very easily make further changes along these lines myself.

I wonder, however, if some your other alterations might be inappropriate.

I notice that you switched "Minister of Correctional Services" to "minister of correctional services", for instance. A google-search for the term indicates several instances of the ministerial title being spelled with upper-case letters, as opposed to only a few with lower-case letters.

A search for "became Premier" indicates that both lower and upper-case spellings are in common usage, when the term is used in this manner.

Is there a specific policy (or code of literary etiquette) you could point me to that would require lower-case spellings in these latter instances? CJCurrie 23:39, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

re: St. Thomas Tommies

Good evening, Bearcat. I do understand your argument for consistency. Unfortunately, I don't think the rest of the community is as convinced as you are that consistency is an absolute requirement for Wikipedia. Personally, I am very comfortable making these decisions on a case-by-case basis and with reversing those decisions as the situation changes. In this example, I would be ready to reconsider the "merge" decision when I saw that enough encyclopedic material had been added that a break-out article now made the most sense.

If that admittedly loosey-goosey approach continues to bother you, perhaps you might want to use this as an example and pose the question at the Village Pump asking how much consistency we should strive for.

The other way to gain consistency is to begin merging them yourself. Unlike deletions, merges do not destroy history and therefore do not generally need to be discussed at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion (though the controversial mergers are usually discussed beforehand on the relevant Talk pages). Good luck.

By the way, thank you for helping to keep the discussions civil on the VfD page. Rossami (talk) 23:40, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

re: Capitalization

Bearcat: I just noticed that you received the "Tommies" post only one minute after my own. In case you accidentally passed over it, I'm still soliciting some feedback re: general capitalization policy and practice. CJCurrie 01:59, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• For what it's worth, Hansard appears to use the "capitalization on all occasions" approach for ministerial titles. As far as expressions like "asked the P/premier" go, I've encountered both usages in professional/legitimate contexts. In fact, here's a clip from today's Globe & Mail:

• And she questioned the orchestrated press event at police headquarters, in which the Premier --wireless microphone in hand -- and Chief Fantino walked down a set of stairs to the applause of several dozen officers.

• I'll use discretion in the future, though I suspect that both usages should be considered acceptable for Wikipedia. CJCurrie 03:01, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• • Perhaps the increased usage of "capitalization on all occasions" is indicative of a gradual shift in "acceptable usage" on this front. (It might be interesting to examine some of the 19C documents that I have access to, seeing if capitalization was commonly used in this period.)

In any event, this isn't something for which I'm inclined to invest *too* much emotional capital ... CJCurrie 03:50, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Template:Vfd

Hi, Can you add Template:Vfd to your watchlist if you haven't already done so? Some anon IP likes to vandalize it by changing "blank" to "bugger". A hassle because it gets subst'd in. I'm sending notes to get more people to add it to their watchlists. -- Curps 19:56, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

NPOV & Other Such Notices

In response to your question:

• The intent of the notice is not for the person placing it to make the changes. Were that the case, then there would be no need for such a notice. Putting the onus to repair on the person who discovers it is burdensome and will only allow NPOV and other improper input to remain and possibly be misused by an innocent researcher. The NPOV and other such notices are extremely important and exist so that visitors to Wikipedia who come across and recognize either NPOV, biased, misinformed, deliberately misleading and other such undesirable articles, won't leave thinking Wikipedia has no credibility. The NPOV notice serves several important purposes: a) a warning to viewers not to rely on this article's content at this time; b) it tells people Wikipedia is fully aware of the problem in the article and will be fixing it; c) that Wikipedia in fact does have the mechanisms in place to deal with NPOV, etc.; d) it tells those who have been or intend to create deliberate NPOV, biased, etc. articles that they are wasting their time and it will be caught and rectified; and e) it tells good contributors who care about Wikipedia that the article needs work. A close friend of Jill is an editor at a major Toronto newspaper, and when Jill said we were enjoying Wikipedia the editor dismmissed Wikipedia out of hand, citing certain articles, including several on Quebec subjects. Those who created the NPOV template obviously wanted to overcome this perception and criticism. For Wikipedia to have credibility, such notices are absolutely essential and I am sure those here at Wikipedia who created the templates may well have had other good reasons far beyond our ability to comprehend. JillandJack 05:16, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

User:Bearcat replied:

• 1) But the "Be Bold" rule applies just as much as the POV tags.

Afraid I don't understand this remark.

• 2)I can easily see a distinction between "POV that a user should tag" (ie. "recognizes the bias issue, but doesn't know enough about the subject to fix it personally") and "POV that a user should just go ahead and fix themselves" (ie. "knows the subject".) There's no special onus on anybody to do anything, except that which applies to us all. Bearcat 05:22, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Why should any person be obliged to fix POV? As I said, with that type of onus, people won't bother. The result then is that articles sit unmarked and are open to the kind of criticism for lack of credibility that has already been harshly levelled at Wikipedia by Brittanica and others. We have no interest in all this Quebec political stuff but a great deal of it is not just NPOV, but a complete embarrassment that in many cases is offensive. Thanks for your concern. Keep up the good work. JillandJack 05:34, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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As to your comment on the Quebec politicians category, it is simply a matter of following whatever established policy exists at Wikipedia. JillandJack 05:23, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

User Bearcat said: Wikipedia doesn't have a policy against subcategories for particular provinces or states.

Yes, it does for the most part except for a few odds and ends like the New York city ones. When it comes to the provinces/states, writers, sportspersons, etc. are all by "American" and the State is limited to "People fpom" - which makes sense because there are, in our opinion for what little its worth, too many categories already. Somehow, someone here set up Quebec as though it were a country which of course it is not. I note that one of that ilk went around deleting "Canada" from Maurice Richard and others as place of birth. This is nothing more than racism and an insult to Wikipedia and to all honourable people with legitimate different political views. Thanks and good night. JillandJack 05:45, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

As I said, there are a few odds and ends where States have improper categories but they will eventually be cleaned up before it gets out of hand. Bed time for me. JillandJack 06:08, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

B.J. Eversole

Hiya! I think the VfD for Socialist Party of North Carolina (Socialist Party USA affiliate) leader B.J. Eversole, if it resulted in a deletion, would set an onerous precedent for the serious treatment of minor party political leaders and, by extension, smaller but encyclopedic fish in larger political contexts. I hope I've expanded it into a credible treatment, and I'm confident his role, while fairly new, and his party, while electorally small, are notable enough on their own. I hope you'll review the VfD and "vote your conscience," as they say. Cheers. :) Samaritan 14:35, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

"Member of the provincial legislature from (province)" ones. - Good suggestion. JillandJack 23:22, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Suggestion

It might be an idea to place this on Wikipedia:Requests for page protection - I'm confused about what is POV about the article and no little or nothing about Quebec's independence movement, other than there is one :-) Ta bu shi da yu 10:27, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Government watchdog groups

Hi Bearcat, thanks for your question regarding the inclusion of the CCLA and CTF in Category:Government watchdog groups in Canada. I originally created those two articles without listing them in Category:Political advocacy groups in Canada, because I felt that would imply partisanship on behalf of the two organizations.

Because the American Civil Liberties Union was included in the Category:Government watchdog groups in the U.S., I felt that there was enough of a precedent to warrant the creation of such a Category for Canada, and that the Canadian Civil Liberties Association would therefore belong there. The Canadian Taxpayers Federation was a slightly harder decision, but to my limited knowledge they are generally non-partisan and are most often addressed in the media as a government watchdog organization, so I included them there too.

I agree that the distinction between Government watchdog group and Political advocacy group needs to be clearer. Please take a look at the description given on the Category for Government watchdog groups in the U.S., I'd be interested in your comments on it. If it is acceptable and clear then we can copy it over to the Canadian category with some minor edits. Thanks, Kurieeto 18:06, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)

JillandJack

I do have a thought about JillandJack in general, but it may be difficult to prove - give me a couple of days :) Adam Bishop 19:25, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Well, it didn't take as long to contact the right people as I thought it would - I don't remember if you were around back then, but do you remember DW/BlackWidow/Joe Canuck/Angelique or whatever other names that guy used? (See User:DW.) Well it seems likely that JillandJack is another incarnation. We'll see what JandJ have to say about that. Adam Bishop 20:21, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Oh, I never saw that Suzanne Tremblay thing this time...that's a dead giveaway. Adam Bishop 20:36, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

JillandJack has been blocked now, though they claim not to be Angelique. If you know anyone else who was involved in these disputes this time, can you let them know? I know some of them but I wasn't as involved as I was last time. Adam Bishop 00:17, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know about this. Whoever this person or persons was, they were extraordinarily confrontational. -- Curps 01:38, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Mercredi

Thanks very much for your help with the Ovide Mercredi article. All problems have now been fixed as I was also able to get the "What links here" issue corrected by removing the link to him from the Assembly of First Nations article, and then putting it back. Thanks again! Kurieeto 21:02, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)

Page protection

Yeah that might be a good idea. I don't think I should do it either though...try Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Adam Bishop 22:54, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Oirvine

We'll have to ask a developer to do that. I'll see if I can find one. Adam Bishop 00:28, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Actually, this is not a good time to ask developers to do anything, since they are busy fixing the servers...but I think it's safe to assume it's JandJ. Is there an IP address in the e-mail they sent you? If it originates from Sudbury or Elliott Lake they are definitely the same person. Adam Bishop 00:50, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Only developers can review IPs and other technical evidence. And only arbitrators can formally ask developers for assistance here, not ordinary admins. Probably developers only have the time to investigate such requests on a very occasional basis, and not routinely. Given that the evidence against Oirvine is limited, I'd say you should probably unblock him. If he's a reincarnation, his editing style and interaction with others will soon show it. -- Curps 00:58, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, this is pretty sparse evidence - we don't really know why they reinserted the text on that article (maybe they thought it was being vandalized, who knows). Besides, even if it is the same person, at least they make a bunch of good edits for awhile before going nuts :) Adam Bishop 01:10, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Category:Nova Scotia MHAs

Hi Bearcat, I thought I should mention to you that I'm quite confident that the category name you created "Nova Scotia MHAs" is incorrect. Nova Scotia has never used the MHA title. Instead MLA would be the more appropriate one. if there is no protest I was going to rename it. Cheers! PullUpYourSocks 20:23, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

A new look at Italian-Canadian heritage: deleting the category

Ciao Bearcat. The Italian-Canadians, over 1.270.000 strong, have a profound impact on Canadian life. They vote overwhelmingly for Italian-Canadian politicians, most of them born in Italy. Make your arguments unbeatable. I'm eager to learn. stefanomione 0:46, 2005/03/05.

Chicago aldermen

Hi there! Since the discussion seemed finished, I've closed up the Wikipedia:Deletion_policy/Local_politicians discussion for now. I believe consensus has been established that local politicians deserve mention in Wikipedia, but not in a separate article UNLESS they have done something exceptional. Would you please check if you find this a reasonable conclusion, and leave a short note on that page's talk page? Thanks.

Also if you have a lot of spare time you may want to consider helping with the merging proposed in that discussion.

Yours, Radiant! 10:11, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

PrideVision/OUTtv/etc.

I don't know either. I was trying to find a website for the TV station you mentioned, and I ended up at PrideVision's site, and the only new station they mention is OUTtv. Theory: Maybe OUTtv is taking over PrideVision's license, and PrideVision is taking on a new name, 617? --Spinboy 00:29, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Like I said, OUTtv is taking over PV's license, and PrideVision/617/HARD on PrideVISION is taking this new license. --Spinboy 00:46, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I always thought name changed required approval from the CRTC. Also you might want to unwickify William Craig, as it leads to the wrong man. In any case, at least we sorta know what's going on. No offense taken. --Spinboy 01:00, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Great job on William Craig (broadcaster). Do we have a website for him? --Spinboy 01:33, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Toronto Computer Leasing Inquiry

Good job on this article, I really enjoyed reading it. CryptoDerk 09:11, Mar 10, 2005 (UTC)

Image Tagging

Hi Bearcat,

Don't forget to tag images with the license they are currently under. It is important to tag images you have uploaded because those that don't contain copyright information may be deleted. You can view the list of tags avaliable at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. For example, if it's an CD Cover, tag it with {{albumcover}} on the image namespace. Happy editing! :)

- Mailer Diablo 02:51, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

A. L. Rowse

Hi: Thanks for sharpening the categories for A. L. Rowse. I notice that you changed his name to "Rowse, Alfred" for all the categories. This is more likely to confuse than clarify because, as far as I know, no-one (except biographers and the civil authorities) knows him by that name. He always wrote as "A. L. Rowse" and was known informally as "ALR". Are you happy for me to change his categorised name to "Rowse, A. L." --Theo (Talk) 14:21, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)?

Hi: Thanks for the explantation. I will ponder the implications of all this before making any changes. --Theo (Talk) 19:35, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

And after suitable contemplation I have moved the article to A. L. Rowse and bypassed the double redirects. --Theo (Talk) 20:57, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

RfD

The reason that entry hadn't been deleted was that policy is to let entries sit a week before deleting them (unless they are one of the speedy exceptions). So the week was up today, and since I'm just now getting to the page (I generally do the archiving on WP:AN, WP:AN/I, etc first) that's why it wasn't done yet. You'll notice that nothing older than a week (excepting a few problematic entries) was there. Noel (talk) 13:44, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Image copyright tags

Thanks for uploading Image:Neont.PNG. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much, Tagishsimon (talk) 00:15, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Many thanks. --Tagishsimon (talk)

Matthew Good

Hi Bearcat - I'm not sure if you're a regular reader of Matthew Good's blog, but in part of his latest post he requested that the creator of the Wikipedia article about him, you, contact him. See the third paragraph from the bottom of his latest post, titled "Right Wing Revolutionaries Welcome". Wanted to tell you, Kurieeto 01:50, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)

Haha, enjoy your newfound fame. =) Just remember us little people while you schmooze with the Canadian elite and intelligentsia! Kurieeto 14:21, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)

Image:Centront.PNG

How would you feel about changing: Hastings and Prince Edward: red to green; considered much more East than Central Bruce and Gray: white to green; often considered Central Ontario (For a fairly canonical example, the websites of Osprey newspapers in Owen Sound, Hanover,Collingwood, Midland, Barrie and Orillia all carry a section of "Central Ontario Headlines" with headlines from each of the other newspapers)

Samaritan 20:50, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Torontian streets

Hi there! Glad to have your opinion on the Torontian streets. I believe we shouldn't set precedent for a large amount of street articles per city (I mean, anyone can add a dozen stubs on streets in his home town, clearly that's not very helpful). I would like your opinion on this proposal:

1. Any street that is only notable because of a landmark (or building or whatever), should be merged with that landmark.
2. Any street that is really really famous (think Broadway level) should get its own article
3. Other major streets should be merged into a List of important streets in Toronto or some similar title; I believe all information on a major street could be summarized in five or six lines, so a list of them would allow for easier organization and lookup-ability.
4. Anything that's not a major street should be deleted.
5. Any picture of streets that's non-specific (i.e. just some streetlamps and cars) should also be deleted.

If this is a lot of work, I'd be happy to help. Yours, Radiant_* 19:58, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

Liam Lynch, Las Ketchup and Our Lady Peace

Take a look at zero-hit wonder... Samaritan 18:10, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

VfD

You may want to express your opinion about Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Grant Neufeld. Regards, Kevintoronto 15:33, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Are you interested in being a Bureaucrat?

Hi, I am considering nominating you to become a Bureaucrat. The role would involve giving administrator or bureaucrat access to other users following consensus on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. Although there are currently 18 bureaucrats, it may be helpful to have a few more. If you would accept a nomination, please let me know. Kingturtle 04:27, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Canadian Broadcasting Corporation

I am trying to bring this article up to featured standard, and in looking at the article's history, I noticed that you added a substantial amount of info to it. I assume you got that info from one or more external websites, and if that is the case, could you tell me what those websites were, so I can cite them properly? Denelson83 22:15, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Here are some diffs to help you out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canadian_Broadcasting_Corporation&diff=7083491&oldid=7013356

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canadian_Broadcasting_Corporation&diff=3351303&oldid=3345756

- Denelson83 06:45, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

• • BTW, here's some full disclosure for you. Nelson Media is my own website. Denelson83 07:09, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Patricia Rozema

You added the Category:Gay, lesbian or bisexual people tag to the article on Patricia Rozema. While her film When Night Is Falling has bi-sexual and lesbian characters in positive lead roles, Rozema herself (to the best of my knowledge) is hetero. Do you know of a reference somewhere to her orientation? Thanks, GrantNeufeld 09:26, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Virgil Fox

You added the GLBT category to Virgil Fox; what's the reason for this? Its the first time I've heard such a notion about him. Dewet 06:13, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer; I can believe that people will want to "smooth over" these kinds of details in biographies, but I found an article on his website that contains that snippet from the Koymasky's website ([1]). Thanks, I would otherwise not have known. Dewet 10:24, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

(hanging chad joke here)

Hey, you might want to change your vote on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Small penis humiliation now that the proposal to merge/redirect to erotic humiliation is afoot... Samaritan 18:01, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

The letter ø

I noticed a change in the article Ådne Søndrål with the comment: category sort -- it doesn't file ø as o, but as a separate letter that follows z, which made me go: Huh? The letter ø is a different letter entirely than o, and yes, it does come after z in the alphabet. Havardk 22:50, May 14, 2005 (UTC)

CBVE

So how are you going to distinguish between CBVE-TV and CBVE-FM? 121a0012 16:48, May 15, 2005 (UTC)

About More tears

Hello from France ! Working on Otto e mezzo, an italian film from Fellini (Oscar for best foreign film in 1964), I have found a remake done in Canada : More Tears, by Ken Finkleman. I show you the place : http://cine.voila.fr/film/fichefilm_gen_cfilm=337.html
I hope you can read french !
As I have seen you are quite the only one who wrote about More Tears and as you are better than me in english, I leave you the information for updating. Here is the page of the french text for the orginal film : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huit_et_demi
Please, excuse my english... friendly congratulations, Henrysalome 15:04, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

About the Coyne clan

Hi, do you have a source for the claim that Andrew Coyne and Deborah Coyne are brother and sister? This CBC article: [2] claims they are cousins.

A Google search on them turns up several sites which claim they are siblings, but I couldn't find any one that looked reputable (indeed many of them seemed to be redistributed copies of the Wikipedia articles). I've changed the articles to state they are cousins, but in the off chance that CBC is wrong, it would be good to clear this up. --Saforrest 00:03, May 18, 2005 (UTC)

Ibbitson

Thanks for cleaning up my article. I'm rather new at this wiki thing, so any help is greatly appreciated. You did a really nice job polishing it.

Categories coming and going

You seem to have removed categories only to add them again in a bunch of articles that I have on my watchlist. I am curious: What are you up to? Rl 16:34, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

A-ha! Thanks for the explanation. Check out bug 2166, I believe that's the one. Rl 06:55, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Update: It's been fixed. Category pages that are wrong don't get updated automatically, though. You can force an update by saving the article with the cat sort key again (i.e. no change), it will get sorted correctly into the category page, and the edit won't show up in the revision history. Rl 13:14, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

National Party of Canada

Can I pick your brains for a moment -- do you remember what colours this party used in the 1993 election? SimonP have different recollections of this. See Talk:National Party of Canada. Ground Zero 15:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Great Alexander Wood article

Beautiful and timely article, Bearcat darling, thank you, from Halifax.

I'm the main editor of the big Halifax queer current and historical wikipedia, http://gay.hfxns.org/

If you're planning a trip to Halifax, drop me a line, let's talk queer history. -dan

[[Category:Assessible transit services]]

As opposed, presumably to unassessible, which means, ... "worthless"? I assume you meant [[Category:Accessible transit services]], which I assume is the opposite of inaccessible transit services, which I imagine means something like teleporters, stargates and the like. :-/ I've got some leftover tylenol #3 from when I got my wisdom teeth pulled...but after some of the stuff I've been seeing lately on WP, I think I'd prolly better keep it... Tomer ^TALK 12:34, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

• Admin powers!? no! you're part of the supersecret wikicabal!??? :-p Tomer ^TALK 21:23, May 29, 2005 (UTC)

Stop removing T-people from articles

Would you kindly stop replacing the LGBT cat with this "sexual orientiation and identity" cat - that is removing T-people from the articles? Because, as you should know, transgender is neither a sexual orientation nor a sexual identity, and that means you are removing a whole group of people from the articles, which is extremely rude. Even more rude is the fact that at least nowhere where I found it you even bothered to debate those widespread changes you are trying to push through. -- AlexR 10:58, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

What's hurting you? Getting caught with thoughtlessness? Bad luck, think first next time. You removed cat:LGBT several times and replaced it with the trans-exclusive "sexual orientation and identity", so what do you expect? And you are "singlehandedly" responsible for the inclusion of T in cats? Sure, except you nobody would have been able to think about it. Shall I fall on my knees now and thank you? Probably not. I strongly recomment you a) think about what you are doing next time, and b) annouce it if there is a chance of it being controversial, even if policy does not demand it in your view - you know, there are things beyond policy. -- AlexR 17:27, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Even if the cat has this description, that is no reason to use it that way - a simple check of sexual identity would have told you of the inappropriatness of this cat for clearly trans-related articles. Somebody who claims that they are "singlehandedly" responsible for inserting the T into cats really, really ought to know that. -- AlexR 19:56, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Template:ON-FedRep

This template is much too large and would work much better as a category. - SimonP 03:18, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

I guess that will have to be done then. These templates are in pretty clear violation of the new Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes. We have enough work getting rid of old non-compliant templates without creating new ones. - SimonP 03:24, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

I fully support reorganizaing the cats along those lines, but it would be a lot of work. - SimonP 03:30, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Hi Bearcat - everyone here is very appreciative of your extensive efforts, especially on Canada related articles. However, since you and I seem to have hundreds of pages in common on our respective watchpages, I do have one request.... could I persuade you to make more use of edit summaries? Although I don't think I've ever reverted one of your changes, it would make life easier for me, since when there is no edit summary I feel compelled to check out the changes, even if it is from a trusted editor... Best Regards, Fawcett5 13:43, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

New Brunswick departments

Thanks for your work in changing the names of the New Brunswick departments I had been creating. I didn't realized the nomenclature I was using was off of the standard, I'll adjust in the future articles I created and go through and change all of the links in the articles to the correct format. - Jord 15:20, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Andrea Menard categorizing

I'm not sure if I agree with taking her out of the First Nations category. Although she is Metis she is often also associated with the aboriginal community as well, to the extent that she won an aboriginal music award awhile back, and one of her best known songs, "Halfbreed Blues" has her trying to reconcile both sides of her heritage. Can we not list her in both, or is that considered a no-no? (I ask that despite the fact that being born and raised in Saskatchewan I should know this already!) ;-) 23skidoo 03:19, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Album genre categories

Thanks for your edits to hip hop albums. Tim Ivorson 08:05, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Melissa McEntyre

Hi Bearcat. This is my first entry in about two weeks, as I was on my thrid detox for that long. It didnt work as well, actually, my blood pressure ran up to 166 and right now Im recovering from THAT as well. This week Im going to my family doctor to discuss that matter.

That said, the reason that I put Melissa McEntyre among Canadian people is , that she is Canadian, so shes a Canadian people, and also, when you look at Puerto Rican people or Mexican people for example, individuals are in those categories' pages. But there is no protocol rule as to that so I guess my better judgement would be to leave Melissa McIntyre the way it is now and evade a revert war furthermore.

That said, Im always drawn by gothic wearing girls, Fairuza Balk is my platonic love! So even through I know that Melissa plays a character in the show, I still kinda get attracted by her even through I know its just a character. Thank God Fairuza is the real deal. She has been into wiccan before she filmed The Craft. And she dated Marilyn Manson, so that tells you a lot!!

Thnaks for everything, and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, Antonio three strike felony Martin

A Lesbian Sandro Botticelli?

Could you add some detail on Sandro Botticelli's classification, which you added? --Wetman 20:16, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

VfD

Could someone who has not already participated in the debate please take a look at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Elizabeth II of Canada and determine whether or not there's a consensus. As far as I can determine, according to the consensus guideline at Wikipedia:Consensus the criteria has been met since there's a 2/3 majority to merge/redirect but since I've proposed the VfD in the first place it's apparently seen as objectionable by some for me to declare the now week old VfD closed and implement a redirect (the merge has already been done). AndyL 21:12, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hand on the Torch

OK! No problem. Actually, i can't wait it i hear Us3's new album! Project2501a 23:08, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Categories

Molto grazie for fixing my mistake. That's good to know. Happy Pride Week. Ground Zero 01:09, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Bearcat, curious why you don't think Mermaid Avenue is a folk album. With an entire album based on the lyrics of Woody Guthrie, isn't that justification enough? Thoughts? -- Dave C. 04:43, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Fair enough; works for me. Thanks. -- Dave C. 04:54, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Origin of Joel Bakan article

Bearcat, did you personally create the text in the intial entry for Joel Bakan? The text i mean is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joel_Bakan&oldid=13459484 The reason i ask is because the middle paragraph is so nearly identical to http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1538175/bio - the bio info for Bakan at IMDB. It seems to me that wikipedia or imdb has a problem, unless you're the original author of both, bearcat.

If our copy needs to be removed, i will re-write this article with my own orignal words. Fudoreaper June 28, 2005 19:01 (UTC)

Category:Metropolitan areas of Canada

That looks good; thanks for implementing it. Mindmatrix 30 June 2005 11:42 (UTC)

Wilson

I have to admit I have totally zero interest in the subject of that article, was just RC Patrolling. It was also 3 months ago...

But: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Lamborn_Wilson&diff=13385385&oldid=12751528 was my edit. I reverted a lot more than a category change, an anon user cut out content. Didn't even see the changes to the cats, tbh. I know how the piping works on cats, though... --Kiand 1 July 2005 17:32 (UTC)

Highway 61

Yes, I agree. However, I merged the pages because they were exactly the same. -- Earl Andrew - talk 1 July 2005 18:58 (UTC)

I distinctavely remember merging 2 exact pages. But anyways...

P.S. - do you know anything about this watchlist bug? I seem to have been affected by it. -- Earl Andrew - talk 1 July 2005 19:05 (UTC)

Go Transit stations

Thanks for creating the new cat, and re-catting all the station articles. I've been meaning to do it, but kept putting it off; I was pleasantly surprised to find someone had done it already!

Curiously though, none of the station articles that were modified showed up in my watchlist. Mindmatrix 2 July 2005 17:46 (UTC)

Premier of Ontario

Hi, thought I would let you that I removed a sentence you had added about the office of premier being created in 1867. I know where you are coming from, but I think it best to leave this out. What was created in 1867 was a federation with four provinces, each province with a legislature and a lieutenant governor. There is no mention of the office of premier in the BNA Act because the legislature and lieutenant governor operate in accordance with the conventions of the Westminster system. I presume that it was up to the Ontario legislature to pass an Executive Council Act but I would have to go back to the Ontario statutes of 1867-68 to determine that. It would be appropriate to mention in the article when and if such an act was passed by the legislature, but even in the absence of such an act, the mere fact of having a legislature meant under the Westminster system that an executive council could be formed by the lieutenant governor and he could name a president, and this president could call himself whatever he wished. I strongly disagree that the office of premier replaced that of the PM of the Province of Canada (a unitary state responsible for Canada East and West, not just modern Ontario, and with responsibilties for ALL matters, not just provincial matters later assigned to provinces such as Ontario, Quebec, NS, NB). Better to think of Canada and Ontario as new creations with new responsibilities. Prior to 1867 I tend to refer to modern Canada as the British North American colonies or British North America, as this is broad enough to include Newfoundland, PEI, and BC.--BrentS 4 July 2005 01:28 (UTC)

Mashlist

Howdy Bearcat - newbie here with a question - is the Mash list a wiki template or something you came up with on your own? I want to use it, but figured I'd try not to be an asshat and steal without asking. Thanks! NickBurns 6 July 2005 02:22 (UTC)

PS - thanks for the reply on my talkpage! And the compliment. I like yer list, too. NickBurns 23:41, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

"Let's build a great Canada!"

Boy was I surprised to find there was already an article on Jimmy MacDonald's Canada. Good job, BC! Ground Zero 7 July 2005 14:23 (UTC)

For your extensive work in articles pertaining to the culture and geography of Canada Canada, I, Earl Andrew, hereby award you The Barnstar of National Merit.

As I have just received one of these, I feel compelled to give it to someone myself. So, here's one for ya, Mr. Bearcat! --NDP logo Earl Andrew - talk 8 July 2005 21:10 (UTC)

A. Lafontaine

I know, we were discussing this a few days ago on my talk page (User talk:Adam Bishop#User:A. Lafontaine). I brought it up on the Administrator's Noticeboard but there didn't seem to be much discussion there...if he's starting to go back to his old ways, I guess he can just be blocked again. Adam Bishop 22:04, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

Georgian Bay

I chuckled at your edit summary about the description of the location of Georgian Bay. It does seem waaaaay to far southeast of SSM. However, if you check your map, you will see that the North Channel of G'Bay extends almost to Sault Ste Marie. Being correct doesn't make it the best description, however. "South of Sudbury" isn't great either, but it may be the best we can do when confronted with the realities of the sparse population in that part of N. Ontario. Sunray 22:22, July 9, 2005 (UTC)

In a way it is somewhat academic, since Georgian Bay is a bay of Lake Huron. Nevertheless, the North Channel is commonly referred to as "the North Channel of Georgian Bay" as a Google search of those terms (in quotes) will reveal. Here's some evidence:

• The Mission of the Georgian Bay Land Trust: to preserve the unique archipelago and its adjacent water bodies which lie along the eastern shore and North Channel of Georgian Bay that are of ecological, geological and historical importance, and to promote the appreciation of this special area.[3]
• Other websites: [4], [5], [6] Sunray 00:00, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

Progressive Bloggers

Bearcat, I've put in an entry on the Canadian blogosphere group (which includes Matthew Good) the Progressive Bloggers. Please let me know what you think.--Simon.Pole 02:18, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Category:Canadian gay politicians

Why not make it a subcategory instead of killing it? It sure seems like we have enough of them :) But seriously, one thing I'm running into is that the authors of articles tend to add Category:Gay, lesbian or bisexual people (which at 700 articles is full to bursting and no longer useful) to their article as well as a more specific category, just because they want one of the words "Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual" instead of the sterile LGBT FLA. I've been working on subcategorizing Category:LGBT musicians and am getting set to start on Category:LGBT athletes in an attempt to minimize the load on the parent queer group. Later -- Cleduc 02:54, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Gotcha, too right -- not enough to justify the work, never mind. And I suppose recruitment of more politicians is out of scope for the project, but certainly warranted :D

Oh, and thanks for the warning... but in for a penny, in for a pound. Later -- Cleduc 03:19, 11 July 2005 (UTC)