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AIV

Lol, I love how fast and concise you are with your work at AIV! I'm a rookie admin, still getting used to actually patrolling the page, instead of just reporting :). Nice to see the work! Jmlk17 08:46, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh, I thought I hadn't seen you around there, before, that I could remember. :) Your responses have been quite timely, as well. Always good to see another admin making the rounds (whatever the giant backlog of the hour is, we all have our uses, eh?). – Luna Santin (talk) 08:48, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I laughed out loud at this. I am a rookie admin too but I know exactly how you feel sometimes. Ocatecir Talk 08:49, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(Re Checkuser request) Argh, sorry about that one! I think I pasted something for future reference to remind me to place it on the main page, then somehow managed to click Save without checking it. Orderinchaos 10:42, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, heh. I've done worse, not a problem. Glad to see that's cleared up, I get to stop worrying if maybe the {{rfcu top}} directions are worded ambiguously. ;) – Luna Santin (talk) 10:45, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for reverting vandalism to my user page and user talk page!--Diniz (talk) 17:48, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, too bad I just vandleized them again.--124.186.56.120 08:07, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done and done. Also, since that IP seems to be static, I'm gonna go ahead and block it for a month. – Luna Santin (talk) 02:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My user page

Thanks for reverting the vandalism. I don't know what can come over some people. Although I must be honest, I've never had my page vandalized before. --DodgerOfZion 04:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You betcha. :) – Luna Santin (talk) 23:39, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Scottloveshighschoolmusical

Hi. Just curious how you noticed him. What were you watchlisting? I had just dropped a note to an admin acquaintance, but I had not expected the block to be that fast. Though I HAD expected him to vandalise me ;-) MadMaxDog 09:27, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The following IP User:222.152.83.253 is now vandaliszing me. Can you block that too? MadMaxDog 09:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Specifically, I tend to monitor using WP:RCP#IRC_channels, but I use a variety of tools, to be honest. :p I'll have a look at that IP in a moment, here. – Luna Santin (talk) 09:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AIV case

Hi Luna, regarding the anon IP user 159.190.251.62 whom I posted a report about on AIV, a number of their edits are certainly vandalism, while others are more ambiguous. You were unsure about this edit which was a deletion but take a look at this one. Kate Moss's mother's name is not Golda Yufelbaum (a Holocaust refugee) it's Linda Moss according to a couple of news stories I found on google. This user vandalizes in a slightly more subtle way (for example listing out a ton of women Mick Jagger has been "linked to" here without providing any evidence) but I think that's all the more reason to block them again. They are making damaging changes that might not get noticed, so I'm hoping you might reconsider your decision not to block. Thanks! (Note, I'm going offline in a few minutes and might not be able to reply to a message for awhile.)--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 10:05, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello + Stroke order

Hello,

I noticed your warning, and thanks for your work (your time), second point : I'm not truly upset. I have about 15.000 edits on all the wikis, and I'm almost familiar with such unproductive and sad situations (I'm admin in wiki-fr and commons - Exploding boy don't know this 3 points).

I was lead to act in this way because other means have fail. Exploding boy hastily revert policy + minor comment lead me in wide lost of time, explaining all my rewriting policy. It appear that he is too hastily, and all my explanations were useless.

Since, I want mirror his revert policy, to show him what that do.

If you read the "square" that I want to do with my div, you can have my version of the story.

From what I know, users can use such images in the talk page of French articles, and I don't think it's fair to block me and the reason "use an image that Exploding boy don't want see, and don't accept Exploding boy reverts".

A proposition I can make to you :

  • block the stroke order article for one week ;
  • block me for one day ;
  • block Exploding boy for one day ;

This on the reason of "edition war and unproductive/upset endless talks". But the week of unproductive involvement on my side lead, and Nlu opinion that he had not knowledge to judge the opposition, lead me to think that I have no other way that mirror this revert policy. --Yug (talk) 22:05, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I also encourage you to read this User_talk:Exploding_Boy#Strategy_n⁰2 (talks after I announced my new mirror strategy) --Yug (talk) 22:09, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just to be clear here, I haven't asked for anyone to be blocked, and I don't think the Stroke order article needs protection. All that is needed is for Yug to discuss his proposed changes on the talk page before making them. That will allow us to clarify what he wants to say, and to write it in good English before putting it on the page, making editing easier for everyone. Exploding Boy 22:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, there, both of you. Hoping I can get out of this without blocking anybody. ;) I'm still reading up on this (diffs and talk pages), but it seems like you're trying to contribute, and Exploding Boy is having problems with your writing style -- your English is quite good, really, better than I can manage in any of the few other languages I know, but it'll still be different from the sort of "professional" writing the rest of the encyclopedia will be using. If I'm understanding this correctly (I might not be), then it might be good if the two of you can work on changes at some other page, before putting them in at Stroke order -- a little proofreading can do a lot, in these situations. Say, Talk:Stroke order or Talk:Stroke order/temp or anything like that, could be a great sandbox. Great content can come from a lot of places; when I've worked with a few non-native speakers, I've found it helpful to see what they say, then rewrite some of it, just to add a little polish. I'm hoping that'll work, here. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:15, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I already have this : user:Yug/Stroke order. Yes, this need more spelling involvement from a native English speaker. But nobody came. After one week, I copy-pasted it into Stroke order. Yug (talk) 22:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, good. EB, does that work for you? – Luna Santin (talk) 22:23, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
For my level of english, I know it is ...correctable. Correct one section of what I wrote need about 10 minutes.
I'm restoring the div, I you want block me, do so. Notice that I was not lead to this point without reason. Yug (talk) 22:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC) [I still encourage to block both of us 24 hours][reply]
*sigh* Alright, then. See you in 24 hours. Let's hope we can work this out, after that. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've been saying all along that discussing proposed changes on the talk page would be fine. Exploding Boy 22:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done : Talk:Stroke order/Temp ^,..,^y --Yug (talk) 14:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry bout that

sorry about that page earlier, i was just testing the system, my friends said you could put whatever on here, i wanted to see if it was true. lol, soz about my name too —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kara shagger (talkcontribs) 12 June 2007.

Replied to your talk page. – Luna Santin (talk) 09:00, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

lol, ok im still sorry about that though. also, is it possible to change your name once your account is created? i dont want to be stuck with the name kara shagger,lol Kara shagger 09:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

thanx for all the help, you can just remove or ban the kara shagger account, as i've moved to this one now. thanx again.:D Dracosword 09:19, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

75.0.146.196

Well done blocking the vandal IP User:75.0.146.196. Did you just look at WP:AIV or did you see the vandalism? NHRHS2010 Talk 20:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, I was alerted by one of our trusty bots on IRC. Otherwise, I'm just milling about, and my laptop makes lots of noise when the "alarms" go off. ;) – Luna Santin (talk) 20:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user page. ~Matticus TC 23:28, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You betcha. Gave them a second chance, but they kept up, so blocked. – Luna Santin (talk) 23:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You have a fan

here --Steve (Stephen) talk 23:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would think in an ideal Wikipedia we could block these people and sweep them under the rug so that the target need never notice, I don't see what is gained by pointing them out. (H) 23:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
True, but it might be a line of persistent vandalism that the admin needs to be aware of. --Steve (Stephen) talk 23:53, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
True. (H) 23:54, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Was aware of the trend, when I left for some excercise. ;) Appreciate the sentiment, both of you. Not sure what the best course of action is, I could see it going either way. I tend not to notify people unless it seems pertinent, but I can see why it makes sense to do so. As an intermediate option, I suppose, there's always private email. But either way, thanks, again, both of you. – Luna Santin (talk) 01:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Given to Luna Santin, for tireless, immediate and perfectly done removing unblock trollings. Congratulations to you for all the wonderful coding, which makes all of our 'jobs' easier! Pro Game Master87 04:08, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Heh, thanks! ;) I tend to watch CAT:RFU pretty often, so keeping it neat and clean is nice. Never sure what the Orange Banner of Death will bring, when I come online, but this was a nice one. Thanks, again. – Luna Santin (talk) 07:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Anyways, do you have another page to put your awards in?
Not currently. I did at one point, and might revive it at another date. If so, I'll be happy to add this one in there, again. – Luna Santin (talk) 07:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

For taking this infamous lie off my user page. I want to stress that I did not eat poop. ;-) Piet | Talk 07:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

protest!

I would like to say that, in accordance to the message you sent me about the "i-Mum" page, it is a real product about to launch sale in America. Thus, I do not consider it to be a "nonsense article"


Thankyou =) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ArnieBabe (talkcontribs) 13 June 2007.

Replied to user's talk. – Luna Santin (talk) 20:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I love you

please leave my page =) you're so gawjusss :k —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ArnieBabe (talkcontribs) 13 June 2007.

why does no-one on her share the love? How old are you? If you're of my generation, then you should be spreading the love dear :k Enjoy this life: It may be you're last, so love until you die —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ArnieBabe (talkcontribs) 13 June 2007.

I'm sorry if somehow I've upset you. I honestly did not mean to —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ArnieBabe (talkcontribs) 13 June 2007.

Not so much upset, but I do need you to stop creating what certainly appears to me to be a nonsense article. – Luna Santin (talk) 20:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Its fine.

thanks for not deleting the page and still letting me see that on my user account...i am very sorry for my behaviour and apologize for it...i just wanted to take a snapshot of that page...and thats it..u can remove it if u want...i am really sorry for my behaviour..

--Celebrating 14th june 15:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replied to user's talk. – Luna Santin (talk) 20:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks but i still apologize for my childish behaviour..!but thanks for keeping that article intact!i owe one to you! :D

Stroke order, again

Yug appears to have restored the image or template he was blocked for repeatedly inserting: talk:Stroke order. Exploding Boy 16:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The div is back, but without the image -- it's significantly less disruptive, that way, even if it may not be ideal. I'd suggest you try and work with him. – Luna Santin (talk) 20:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But it still is disruptive, and its unnecessary. I'm not asking for the content, offensive as it is, to be removed, only the brightly-coloured box around it. Yug's obviously pushing the boundaries; it needs to be removed. Exploding Boy 22:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pushing the boundaries, yes, but not as far as he was before being blocked -- he's made a concession, as I see it. At this point, I don't see any tangible reason the two of you can't cooperate, if you both put some effort into working together. If that changes, so be it, but I would like to see some effort put towards resolving this, first. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:27, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really see how, as long as this disruptive behaviour continues. Frankly, I find the content of that box fairly inappropriate; with the box around it, it's disruptive, clearly assumes bad faith, and is unnecessarily highlighted. If you won't remove it and warn Yug, I will. But I'm neither willing to engage in an edit war, nor to discuss anything with the user unless he stops being so obviously disruptive.

Note also that pretty much as soon as his block for repeatedly inserting (most of) that template/image into the talk page expired, he reinserted most of it, and reverted the article.

At issue here is the fact that Yug's written English just isn't that great. I've asked him repeatedly to discuss proposed changes on the article's talk page so that other editors can confirm his intended meaning and correct his English before he changes the article, but he's so far refused. His one concession today was to place a "spelling" tag on the article; spelling, however, is basically a non-issue. The problem is simply that his English is ungrammatical and confusing. I'm all for having non-native speakers edit the English Wikipedia, but only as long as they don't end up just making editing and maintaining articles much more difficult for other editors. Exploding Boy 23:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yug appears to have made a working sandbox at User:Yug/Stroke order -- by all appearances, you haven't edited it, despite his invitation. Is there a reason for this? – Luna Santin (talk) 23:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. First, I only really became aware of it yesterday. Second, I didn't want to make any edits to that article while he was blocked. And third, I don't really want to discuss anything with him until the disruptive behaviour stops. I certainly wasn't going to get involved in an edit conflict during his multiple edits to my talk page yesterday. Exploding Boy 00:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And fourth, I think it would be better to discuss changes on the article's talk page, or at very least a subpage of the talk page, where all interested editors can participate. Exploding Boy 00:10, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. I've left him a note to that effect, hopefully he'll take that into consideration. It really seems like this should be an easy enough impasse for the two of you to get past. – Luna Santin (talk) 00:30, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
EB, you continue to add false informations, in example see :
When I put into effect the last, on june 2nd, I comment : "(Huge re-writing-merging, according to User:Yug/Stroke order. Informations deleted have been merge into the new version, or move toward new articles.)", and you was perfectly able to take a look on the talk page Talk:Stroke_order#Soon rewriting, where I said the CJK strokes section was move to => CJK strokes.
But on june 5, you reverted, and commented : "(Restore large amount of mysteriously removed information.)"
"Mysteriously" !? So you didn't seen the talk page, and you didn't see my comment, but you reverted... O.ô. Woohh.... English administrators are really powerful : they are allow to revert without understand the change made !
Now you say "[for the user:yug/Stroke order] I only really became aware of it yesterday".
If I understand well, we now have only 2 solutions :
  1. you didn't read my comments and the talk page, but reverted me = unfair revert.
  2. you did read my comment and the talk page, so you perfectly knew that I asked help on user:yug/Stroke order = bad faith.
In one word : you have now to face with what you did hastily, when nobody was watching.
You are a skilled user, but your behavior was not acceptable from an administrator. --Yug (talk) 15:32, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming user

Hi Luna,

I saw your name on the list of people who could help with username changes. I'm new to Wikipedia and I'd like to change my username slightly, but I don't understand how to add my request to the bottom of the WP:RENAME page. Specifically I'm referring to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RENAME

Except for wondering if the four ~s are really needed after the subst:Renameuser statement, I don't have any problems with copying, pasting, editing the statement, all that - I have a programming background. I just don't see a place to put my request, as there is no link at the bottom of the WP:RENAME page, after Current requests, that says "click here to add your request". I thought that maybe you're supposed to just edit the whole WP:RENAME page (using the "edit this page" link on top) and scroll down in the edit window and copy and paste your request at the bottom, but I'm afraid that I might be terribly wrong in that guess, and break some etiquette rule.

In short, I have two questions: 1) Are the four tildes after the subst:Renameuser statement necessary? 2) How do I open up a place at the bottom of the WP:RENAME page to add my request?

If I'm sending this to the wrong page (I'm really a newbie), sorry...

Thanks, Arensons 17:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I just figured out that the four tildes insert my username... so I guess they are necessary after the subst:Renameuser statement.

Hi Luna,
I don't need help anymore. I seem to have entered my request in a way that it shows up properly.
Thanks, Arensons 19:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Good. :) Sorry I wasn't around to be more helpful. – Luna Santin (talk) 20:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Userpage

Actually this is related to a RFCU I just register... thanks for the revert.--Isotope23 20:52, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could the IP range be blocked? Corvus cornix 20:54, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Blocked the range for a short time -- hopefully that gets the point across. Will try and keep an eye on this, but let me know if I miss anything. – Luna Santin (talk) 20:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Talk Page protection

Can you please semi-protect Talk:Movement to impeach George W. Bush? AOL IP's are vandalizing it. The article was semi-protected for this reason too. Thank you. Momusufan 21:01, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just did, actually. :) For a week, hopefully this doesn't cause too many problems. I'll rummage around and find the right template for this situation. – Luna Santin (talk) 21:02, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks...but i still apologize for my childish behaviour...i owe one to you..! :)

Camilo Pombo

Hello Luna Satin,

I am outraged by the commentaries posted by “BXMrsBrown.” For whatever reason this person is in a mission to hurt Camilo Pombo.

For your information, I worked for Pombo for a couple of years, and even if I never liked him, I have to admit that he is a very correct professional. Last year I went to Spain on vacation and took the opportunity to check him out. What I found is that he is an amazingly appreciated person in that country. His family and he are well known and respected. To me it was an enlightening moment, because to be honest I was hoping to find something dirty about him and I couldn’t. Possibly his arrogance comes from been an obnoxious blueblood with many nobility titles and loads of money, I don’t know, but honest the man is. It is true that he was in jail many times. For what I understand, in different countries when he was a reporter but none of these times was because of any crime, it was because of his work. I will never like his personality, but I would never dare to accuse him of any wrong doing.

Prettypetite82 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.2.193.1 (talkcontribs) 14 June 2007.

Yug, yet again

I'm now asking you to block this user. He has yet again restored the item on the talk:stroke order page. This situation is untenable. I'm unable to undertake any discussion with him until he ceases this disruptive behaviour. Exploding Boy 18:14, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since you don't appear to be here right now, I'm placing another message on the Admin notice board. Exploding Boy 18:16, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, honestly, it's a blue line. It's not stopping you from doing anything. The two of you should be quite capable of talking to each other, but neither of you is willing to just ignore this completely immaterial issue of a tiny blue line -- Yug insists on having it, you insist on getting rid of it, and in the meantime the entire issue grinds to a halt because people can't stop arguing over the presence or absence of one blue line that's only a pixel wide. The line is not important, I don't see why it matters if it's removed; the line does nothing, I don't see why it matters if it stays. In short, the line does not matter, it is only a line. Both of you need to get over yourselves. – Luna Santin (talk) 19:27, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not just a blue line. But if you'd like to end your involvement in this, it's obviously for the best. Exploding Boy 19:42, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Then what else is there? – Luna Santin (talk) 19:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's a large text box that is clearly designed to look like a warning template. The outside line is blue, yes, but the inside is also blue, unlike the page background, which is a kind of creamy colour. The net effect is to make the text stand out and appear as a user warning, which it isn't. It is not standard practice to place such templates or images on article talk pages. They are used when admins are placing warnings on user talk pages. Yug's made his point; his behaviour in persisting in reinstering the majority of the template (minus only the stop hand image) is clearly disruptive, besides being totally unnecessary. I see his content; so does everyone else. There's no reason to highlight it by placing it inside a brightly-coloured box. Exploding Boy 19:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So it's a blue line with a slightly blue background. I agree, it is completely unnecessary. I fail to see, however, why this has become the primary point of contention -- it has zero effect on the dispute as a whole. As I see it, you're both letting pride get in the way of possible resolutions. Since you're the one talking to me, at the moment, it may seem this feeling is directed solely at you, but that's not the case; it takes two to squabble. – Luna Santin (talk) 19:57, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Look, if you don't want to be involved any more, that's fine. I've explained the problem several times. Yug is being disruptive; it's as simple as that. I'm really not willing to discuss anything with him until his disruptive behaviour stops. So far he's ignored repeated requests to that effect from me, plus at least three from you. He's restored that template at least 6 times, once after a warning from an admin (I'm an admin too, but not acting as one in this instance), and twice after being blocked for restoring it. In addition, he's also reverted changes to the article, despite repeated requests from me and from you to discuss proposed changes before making them. I'm not even complaining about the contents of the box, which is at least bordering on offensive in several parts. I'm willing to work with the guy. I'm not, however, willing to validate the hissy fit he's having at present, nor his disruptive behaviour. Exploding Boy 20:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He's having a hissy fit because he doesn't think you're willing to work with him. You're not willing to work with him because he's having a hissy fit. If one of you just gets past this and acts, in good faith, to resolve the conflict, I anticipate things will improve rapidly. – Luna Santin (talk) 20:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've made it clear repeatedly that I'm willing to work with him. How many times, and in how many places, do I have to say it? For the last time: I'm willing to work wth Yug, if he ceases his inappropriate and disruptive behaviour. Yug, on the other hand, has made it clear in statement and in practice that he's going to revert on sight, insist on not discussing changes before making them, and more or less behave inappropriately. Allowing him to continue his behaviour is not acting in good faith. It's tolerating increasingly disruptive behaviour by a user who, it should be noted, is himself an admin (albeit on a different Wikipedia) and should therefore know better. Exploding Boy 20:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, the both of you have certainly said up and down the street that you're both quite willing to work together -- the test is in actually doing it. Which one of you will step up to the plate, first? – Luna Santin (talk) 21:00, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, well, this isn't productive. If you don't want to be involved further, that's fine. I'm not going to continue going back and forth like this. Exploding Boy 21:02, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blank protected page

You protected User talk:Bobby de Montparnasse. Can you also go ahead and blank it, too? It's clearly inflammatory and an unacceptable use of an editor's Talk page. Thanks! --ElKevbo 22:15, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Other option, I'll delete and transclude it on a cascade-protected page. Draws less attention, that way. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:21, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much! --ElKevbo 00:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rihannabox.jpg

Luna Santin, you deleted this page earlier, according to the log, and it seems the original uploader has uploaded it again. As you were the deleting administrator, I thought you should know. In fact, the uploader has continually added this image and other unsourced images back into articles, and continues to upload images with no tags or sources. Shouldn't this user also be blocked for disruption? Acalamari 22:16, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Left a "friendly" note. A lot of people don't understand the gravity of image copyright, or how seriously Wikipedia takes it, in particular. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for deleting it. That's the second time I've asked that user to stop, so thank you for your input. ShadowHalo has also been leaving messages about the images, and as you saw, that talk page is filled with warnings about images. Acalamari 22:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, wowzers. :p That is a lot of them. I'll see if I can keep an eye on this one, but let me know if I miss something. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hello Luna Santin, I don't know when you'll see this, but the user just re-uploaded the image and re-added it to the article. I've given them another message and tagged the image for deletion but I doubt it'll do any good. Acalamari 03:27, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if that's how it'll have to be. Blocked for 24 hours. – Luna Santin (talk) 04:26, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again. Acalamari 16:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Need volunteers

Hello,

In order to get out of the current endless situation :

  • I kept the div, but I removed myself the blue background from my div.
  • I need a new administrator watching the Stroke order article and its talk page,

The task will be to revert me if I add bad English, but also to revert EB if he continue to delete my 1px blue div.

I think this way of a new team will be more efficient. The other way is to try an gentlemen agreement with EB, which seems less possible today than ever (or only after endless talk, RfC, Arbitration Committee).

I also asked for volunteers helping my English on Stroke order/Temp, and your help is welcome, but for an Administrator replacing EB in watching this two pages, I would be happy if it's you.

(A bigger proposition was made on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Yug, again)

Let me know if it possible. --Yug (talk) 13:37, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While there's absolutely no need at all to put a box around your comments on a talk page (that's not standard here on En.Wikipdia, and I'm willing to bet it's not on Fr.Wikipedia either) and I would still prefer that you removed the border completely, now that you've removed the background it's far less noticeable. I'm willing to work with this albeit less than perfect situation, however I still believe that you deserve a second, longer block for your disruptive behaviour, and that you should know better as an admin yourself.
I'm glad to see that you have finally accepted that reverting your bad English is nessecary. As I've been saying all along: please discuss your proposed changes before making them in the article.
By the way, I'm not "watching the page" as an admin. I'm participating in editing the article. Or at least, if you've accepted that your changes need discussing before you make them, that's what I'll be doing. Exploding Boy 15:39, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, Exploding Boy has actually shown quite a bit of restraint, here -- he's trying to act in good faith, and I think he just wants some assurance that you are, as well. While I do appreciate the background change, Yug, you and I both know that he finds the entire box bothersome -- will it satisfy the two of you if there's some agreement to avoid using any such boxes, in the future? It really seems more productive to get on with working on the sandbox, instead of squabbling over whether the line stays or goes. I could edit the sandbox, if both of you want me to do so, but for the time being, it seems that might compromise any sense of neutrality I have. Thoughts? – Luna Santin (talk) 23:57, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just don't know, Luna. First, from looking at the history of Talk:Stroke order, it appears that Yug left a weird "anonymous" post calling both himself and me "childish" and "proud." Then, he left another post accusing me of trying to drive him away. He also appears to be maintaining a page all about me, in apparent preparation for... Something. I don't quite know what. None of this strikes me particularly as "good faith." In addition, he keeps trying to goad me into RFCs and has also made it clear that discussion is essentially a formality, and he's going to go ahead and do what he "plans" anyway. Not just all those things, but in this post on the French Wikipedia, he states that he's "already rewriting the English article 'Stroke order,' in spite of Exploding Boy and his reverts." It's all a bit surreal, frankly. Exploding Boy 04:00, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hm... that does seem odd. Keeping "evidence" pages on other editors is rarely an indication of good faith, in my humble opinion -- especially since he appears to be preparing some sort of arbitration(?), over what seems to be a minor brush up. The comment on Fr might be something to look into -- I can tell he's mentioning you, but I don't know enough French to say more than that conclusively, I'm afraid. If it's any consolation, it appears the folks on fr.wikipedia are very fond of boxes and such, on their talk pages, so maybe that's where he picked up the habit. Were I in your shoes, here (I admit I'm not), I might make a few edits to Talk:Stroke order/Temp -- if he is acting in good faith, it helps the issue along, and if he's not, people won't be able to say you didn't try (either way, if the main problem is his syntax and such, and he's providing otherwise-good content, it might be the way to go; again, just my opinion). But I tend to work by giving people "enough rope," if you catch my drift. I'll try and keep an eye on this, either way; unfortunately, I'll be out for a good chunk of the weekend, so if you need some administrative action, probably best to head straight to WP:AN or WP:AN/I and let me know later, if you like. – Luna Santin (talk) 06:14, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The problem has been exacerbated by the fact that another user has since jumped in and made major changes (most of which I actually agree with) to the main article. This is a good thing, from my perspective, since it's ended the impasse. On his talk page, Yug tells this user that he doesn't agree with some of the changes, and plans to "revert" them when he has time. Yug is continuing to work on his Talk:Stroke order/Temp page completely alone, while the rest of us are having discussions on the talk page. As well, I've just discovered that Yug is continuing to make rather insulting edits to the Talk:Stroke order page. I've more or less stopped communicating with him, though I'm going to be forced to respond to some of his comments on the Stroke order talk page. Exploding Boy 15:19, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
O.ô... I said I didn't agree with "the deletion of some sentences"....
And yes : I reverted him on Stroke order : see the difference (--!> corrected into -->) which restore the section about Cursive.
I didn't insulted, In reaction of you previous acid comment, I put again into light the fact that you made several mistakes, which you not really like.
Good bye every one, I have a true life, and I will come back in 7 days.
Yug (talk) 15:54, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Magnetic Monopoles

Dear Luna,

All the available theories and comments on the subject suggest that monopole magnets do not exist for normal size elements.

I have a suggestion from a possible inventor which covers an encoder with alternating N/S strips on a disc or a rectangular support. Nothing is mentioned about the single polarity of the strips. Several other technological steps are listed, such as starting with a monopole N structure, and using a magnetizer to create equally spaced S strips on the original N object.

The suggestion seems to be absurd, contradicting the basic laws of physics (another classic example is the perpetual motion machine).

Please let me know if you agree with this this position.

Thanks so much,

Joe Zilberman —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.243.70.141 (talk) 15 June 2007

Hate to say it, but I have no expertise in this subject, and my opinion really doesn't hold any weight greater than that of any other Wikipedian. However, if you'd like to edit the Magnetic monopole article, you're welcome to give it a shot -- we are, after all, the encyclopedia anyone can edit! If you'd like to get introduced to Wikipedia, you may want to see Wikipedia:Introduction. Hope that helps! – Luna Santin (talk) 00:04, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BHG's talk page discussion

Avoiding creating another section, but feel free to refactor, if you like. Just wanted to say, thanks for your efforts at mediating. I'm probably done at BHG's talk page, though I'll keep an eye on the UCFD to see if there's anything else I may want to comment on. As I mentioned, I would be interested in seeing Dmc's logs you mentioned (if you'd prefer to let the issue rest, I also understand). – Luna Santin (talk) 12:06, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, until I saw the request for the links, I was in "disengage" mode for a bit. I honestly find this all rather disturbing myself. As for the links, they're on her talk page, but I'll copy that posting here for you:
See:
  • Some categories deleted by this user (You may have to scroll down the deletion log a little, to find them),
  • and restored by me for WP:UCFD listing here,
  • and removed by another user (apparently presuming bad faith) here,
  • and this deletion log for the political issue ones, the political ideology ones, and for the redeletion of the others.
There was also a DRV discussion (scroll down) about the political issue subcats (but not AFAIK the political ideology sub-cats, or the misc "other" cats - Though at least the "furry" category was overturned). And for the general discussion: User_talk:Dmcdevit/Archive19#Your_recent_speedy_deletions. There have also been a few policy proposals intended to support the action after-the-fact, but AFAIK none are even close to consensus. - jc37 15:04, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"Happy reading" : ) - jc37 12:19, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ack, you weren't supposed to reply until after I went to bed! :p I'll hopefully get to this, tomorrow. If not, I anticipate being pretty busy on Sunday. But one way or another, I'll have a look. – Luna Santin (talk) 12:20, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Have a good night : ) - jc37 12:28, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note:There is apparently a WP:AN/I thread started by User:Dmcdevit about this. - jc37 11:06, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Finally got around to it, sorry for the delay. School's started up, again, just taking a few minutes at one of the public labs. I'll see if I notice anything more for me to do, when I get back home, most likely. – Luna Santin (talk) 17:22, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

re Visual Basic

Thanks for following up on the Visual Basic spamming. The edit protection is a good first measure. At the end of the day this is really minor spam, and I would hate to see a ban put in place for Sri Lankans (systematic bias is not going to fix itself). I only filed the report to ensure an admin took a look at the problem to work out the best solution.

Event-driven programming has also been hit by the same user at least once. I'veitthat page on my watchlist, and notified both talk pages to keep an eye out for this. John Vandenberg 15:11, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hm... looks like they haven't been by there, too recently. I'll watchlist that, as well. As another tool, either of us could make occasional use of Special:Linksearch to check for any lingering cases we've missed. Thanks for keeping me posted. – Luna Santin (talk) 00:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CLSA

Why did you delete the CLSA entry? The company is well-known in Hong Kong and throughout the global financial community. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 867xx5209 (talkcontribs).

If that is the case, you have my apologies -- the particular article I deleted at CLSA made no mention that would seem to imply or assert that. Do you have any reliable sources which would seem to suggest that, or similar details which might suggest that CLSA meets the notability requirements (WP:CORP in particular)? – Luna Santin (talk) 00:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

Hi Luna. I created this custom barnstar for you. I know I went over board on the humor on this one but I think you earned it. I have never seen a administrator block so many vandals before. I think it must be about 5 or 6 thousand users by now. Not to mention including myself. I hope you like this barnstar and keep up the wonderful work. Cheers! King Lopez Contribs 09:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC) [reply]

The Blocking Barnstar
Awarded for Luna Santin for blocking thousands of vandals. Keep up the good work Luna. King

Lopez Contribs 09:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Oh, dear, haha. ;) I'd totally forgotten about that, had to check your log. It's very nice to see somebody recover from that sort of thing, and get back on their feet. Not honestly sure how many blocks I've got, these days -- since the block log maxes out at 5,000 per page, I can say it takes me two pages to check the whole thing (an unusual request the other day had me thinking I might have accidentally blocked an IP or two indefinitely). I'm sure I'll keep at this, although I would like to put some more effort into articles. Cheers! – Luna Santin (talk) 00:49, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for blocking my doppelganger account as well. I never use them so I request blocks on my doppelganger accounts. NHRHS2010 Talk 01:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Seedlydeedly

I'm pretty sure we can issue a libel warning. I'd love to :) — Deckiller 10:43, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I suppooooose. :p Doubt they're worried about that sort of thing, heh. I think there is/was a checkuser request out on the guy, let's see where that goes. – Luna Santin (talk) 19:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alicaponi's query

Hi im wondering that i keep on getting blocked from editing when i never vandalise anything and how i edited an article about long song silver that ive never heard about —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.145.241.17 (talk) 18 June 2007

I couldn't say -- I've never blocked your IP address directly. If you are finding my name attached to blocks which affect you, you may be suffering from autoblocks related to other users who share your IP (whether by virtue of sharing your connection, or by using the same proxy server). I believe I have blocked the range you're on, at some point, but that was some time ago, and for a short duration only, so you shouldn't be affected by it anymore. Apologies for any inconvenience -- let me know if you need any more help. – Luna Santin (talk) 19:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

5000 edits

I just made my 5000th edit today. NHRHS2010 Talk 02:12, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats! – Luna Santin (talk) 04:42, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Runningback U

Thanks for protecting the Runningback U redirect and banning the ip's that were repeatedly vandalising. I just wanted to let you know that the Running Back U redirect is experiencing the same problem of redirecting to porn stars, etc. Otduff 05:52, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Of course. :) Thanks for keeping me up to speed. Since they're still at it, I've extended protection for both redirects -- I think there's only the two of them? – Luna Santin (talk) 05:55, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's correct. And man that was quick! I was going to edit my first post and it was already protected! Otduff 05:57, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Figured out what you meant, heh. Checking history, grabbing an IP's contribs, and hopping over seemed quickest (and most likely to show me any other redirects, if I missed them). When I'm not busy, I try to respond pretty quickly to messages, so. :) – Luna Santin (talk) 05:58, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks Luna, if that is your real name. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Smeagain (talkcontribs) 20 June 2007.

From a quick glance at your talk page, looks like you may want to read up on the nature of [{WP:AUTOBLOCK|autoblocks]]. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:17, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, mind helping me?!

If you know about Halo, and i mean ALOT, mind helping me find out what the IWHBYD skull does P|0X?Atrocity1313 10:23, 20 June 2007 (UTC)atrocity all around me, chaos envelops the earth![reply]

My knowledge of Halo isn't quite that vast, sorry. ;) – Luna Santin (talk) 22:17, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

thats ok, im talkin to every1 here.Atrocity1313 02:37, 21 June 2007 (UTC)Join the Dark Side, we have cookies![reply]

sorry bout that

i accidentally erased some things i shouldn`t have. How can I revert it? 67.172.88.223 22:18, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question about anon IPs

hi luna, quick question about an anon IP i recently recommended for AIV. are we encouraged to report ISP/geography info on talk pages for IPs that are repeatedly blocked for vandalism? i have the info on the IP and i was wondering if and how to post it. Thanks!! Eliz81 20:02, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I frequently tag IPs with {{SharedIP}} and {{SharedIPEDU}}, at the top of their talk page. I'd bet there's probably some related templates lying about, perhaps checking the categories those are in will net something useful. As far as AIV goes, it may be worth mentioning, but it's probably better to just get the report in more quickly, unless the extra explanation is helpful to understanding the problem behavior. Or something like that, anyway. – Luna Santin (talk) 20:05, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikibreak

Hi Luna. Just to tell you that I will be gone from this Sunday until July 13. See my userpage for more details. NHRHS2010 Talk 21:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks, I was mightily confused. As for staying out of trouble, I was in fact in the midst of carefully researching my next edit, about to send a question to the help desk, when the crazy autoblock came up :) WookMuff 21:39, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Userpage

Hi, Luna. Hope you don't mind, but I copied your userpage for my userpage. Cheers, Mystytopia 02:11, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]