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Shouldn't Owen Hargreaves have an English flag in the playing squad? Allthough he originally is Canadian he does play for the English national football team, and since this article is about a football team I believe that he should be represented with the nationality he represents in football. Anyone agree? Arnemann 28 June 2005 11:42 (UTC)

I disagree. He's Canadian. 65.92.78.164

Canadian pride or not, the convention on Wikipedia is to show the flag of the country the player represents. --Dr31 29 June 2005 12:27 (UTC)

But he represents England, not Canada. Kingjeff

Who is Hadi Mirzai? Kingjeff

Shouldn't the reserve squad have there own page? Shouldn't the youth squad go to Bayern Munich youth system? Kingjeff

@84.155.234.127. Can you prove they are not Bayern fans?

Bayern Munich youth system

Is there anyway to comfirm that Rensing and Wessels were ever part of Bayern's youth system? kingjeff

Austrian flag

Does anyone know the letters for Austria. I thought it was AUS but that's Australia as you see in the reserve squad list. Kingjeff 01:30, 24 December 2005 (UTC)kingjeff[reply]

AUT - Template:AUTf. The complete list of countries can be found here: ISO 3166-1, I just dicovered that yesterday with Salihamidzic in Bosnia/Herzegovina. Poulsen 09:26, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Honours

Edited from User talk:Kingjeff:

I find the table currently used for the honor section by User:Kingjeff is clumsy. Following the guidelines of Wikipedia:Tables#When tables are inappropriate, there is no need of tables when the list is relatively simple - which the template previously used from Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Clubs was (see below). As it is now, with a horisontal sorting instead of a vertical arrangement, it becomes more confusing with big table sections like "Number of championships won" and "Number of years as Runners up" instead of the

German Cup:
- Winners (12):
- Runners-up:

which was previously used. If the intent was to seperate domestic from European competitions, a subsection under 'Honours' for each would work fine (last used version with improvements):

Domestic

German Championship and Bundesliga^[1] titles:
- Winners (19): 1932, 1968/69, 1971/72, 1972/73, 1973/74, 1979/80, 1980/81, 1984/85, 1985/86, 1986/87, 1988/89, 1989/90, 1993/94, 1996/97, 1998/99, 1999/2000, 2000/01, 2002/03, 2004/05
- Runners-up (8): 1969/70, 1970/71, 1987/88, 1990/91, 1992/93, 1995/96, 1997/98, 2003/04
German Cup:
- Winners (12): 1957, 1966, 1967, 1969, 1971, 1982, 1984, 1986, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005
- Runners-up: 1985, 1999

International

European Cup and UEFA Champions League^[2]:
- Winners (4): 1973/74, 1974/75, 1975/76, 2000/01
- Runners-up (3): 1981/82, 1986/87, 1998/99
European Cup Winners' Cup:
- Winners: 1967
UEFA Cup:
- Winners: 1995/96
European/South American Cup:
- Winners: 1976, 2001

Notes

^ In 1963 the top division of German football turned professional and was named the Bundesliga.
^ Up until 1991/92, the tournament of the European national club champions was the European Cup; from the 1992/93 season it was renamed the UEFA Champions League.

The table as it is now does more to clutter the vision of the viewer than to provide easy information, and the page should reflect the Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Clubs guidelines, which is used (with variations) in all other (top) clubs. Poulsen 01:51, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The information doesn't clutter it up. It's easier to read. Kingjeff 02:06, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How is it easier to read? As said, it has big table sections like "Number of championships won" and "Number of years as Runners up", it pushes information across the screen - instead of showing the runners-up years at the natural place of reading - left side - it is awkwardly placed to the right on the screen.

However, no matter what you and I think, look at the top of the page - as a part of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Football#Goals to standardize football pages, of which you are a member youself. We should be enforcing the guidelines laid down by Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Clubs - any major changes of article style is to be discussed there first, as a part of the joint football project. Poulsen 02:19, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Then maybe policy needs to change. Kingjeff 02:20, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you think so, then start with changing that. Poulsen 02:21, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Problem solved. Table is smaller. Kingjeff 02:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting the runners-up does not make it Wikipedia:WikiProject Football standard. I'll put the proper style in. Poulsen 02:31, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]