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Danae

There was a typo in the article, which is now featured on the main page. Sulphurous acid, not sulphuric.

This has already been fixed. (Not by me.) Next time, please report errors on MainPage to WP:ERRORS. Thanks. -- PFHLai 23:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Article of the Day should be changed at midnight

Why is the Article of the Day changed at around 4:00PM? Shouldn't it be changed at midnight? I sometimes click out of the internet for a while at around 3:00PM, and at 4:00PM, it is changed.

Phh... see the section on "Blatant UK bias" above; why don't they just make HRH the Queen our ceremonial figurehead?! Actually, I initially assumed Jimbo was English because of that. Of course, how many people out of the American South are named "Jimbo"? --Bobak 22:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This is the "Englsih encyclopeadia" i dont see it anywhere saying the "American.." hehe. Matthew Fenton (Talk | Contribs) 08:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I thought Jimbo came from Wales, so we use Wales time in Wikipedia. No ? (Hahaha.) -- PFHLai 23:51, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Don't be silly. If we were on Cardiff Mean Time we would be using UTC - 12mins 44secs, not UTC. :-P -- AJR | Talk 02:30, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

actually UTC time is not UP time because we add an hour onto our time during the summer, so the featured article changes at 1pm uk time during the summer. i dont really want BUSH as our head of wikipedia.--Greg.loutsenko 12:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That would be the joke going WAY over your head. —Cuiviénen 14:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
or 1am. violet/riga (t) 15:01, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me, but the discussion page isn't a chatroom. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.121.73.22 (talk • contribs) 20:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

What the heck is UTC time? I read Wikipedia's article on it, but it doesn't make sense. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.121.73.22 (talk • contribs) 20:27, 14 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]
You might know UTC better by its former name, Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), (which was renamed in the 70s). Raul654 23:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that this subject needs to be discussed here. Obviously the coding of the Wikipedia system would have to be changed on the whims of a Wikipedian wanting new articles at his midnight time. Just live with the current timing. Also (as an american) I think the UK bias is not that previlent, and that UTC time is a standard used for many websites and organizations. Besides let the brits have there time zones, we americans will be policing the world with our wealth and power... hahaha --superman 21:29, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but it was 2:00PM here and they changed it. It wasn't midnight! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.121.73.22 (talk • contribs) 23:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

so what your basically saying bobak is that its ok to use american time, but not ok to use GMT, the time from which all other times are measured, demands like that perpetuate the sterotype of arrogant americans.Zepher25 13:20, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Languages section

I don't think it's been discussed here but obviously the languages on the bottom of the main page have been trimmed recently. The English names for the languages were also unfortunately trimmed. Having the English names next to each language wasn't too pretty but it was very functional. I'd like to see them return. Ziggur 07:11, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You "don't thinked" wrong. ;) It's been discussed recently at length including here, here and here and possibly one more place that I can't find. The resu,ting consensus (which was a bit contested) was to remove the translations as they are redundant for people who speak/read a particular language anyway, if someone wants to see the complete list they can go here. The reason for the reformation was to make it look less like a jumble of text. There were those against the change entirely and those who wanted the list removed completely, either with a link to the wp.org homepage only or with the list moved to the sidebar as per some other language versions. --Monotonehell 07:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That was a dreadful misjudgement. This is the English language Wikipedia. There is a great arrogance and snobbery in not talking to people in their own language: "If you are too ignorant to understand, you don't matter anyway". As the list is now intimidating and largely useless to most English speakers it would be better to remove it altogether unless it is restored. Merchbow 20:59, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unneeded Romaji Redirects

68.72.116.165 has made some redirects to articles in Romaji form. I doubt someone would search "Burajiru" or whatever it was to get to Brazil articles. --FlareNUKE 08:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not really to do with the main page, I don't see the harm in these redirects if they help people who can't remember the "english name" of something. WP is not paper and these redirects don't cost much. No harm? Any other opinions? --Monotonehell 09:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I thought they were harmless as well. Titoxd(?!?) 09:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

100,000 article sites

While I do agree with the 25k and 50k article sites, could there still be the 100k list still including the 25k and 50k lists? Pronoun 14:33, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't much reason for one; most of the Wikipedias with more than 50k articles also have more than 100k (only Russian, Finnish, Swedish and Chinese do not, and all are rapidly approaching 100k). —Cuiviénen 19:17, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On this Day entry for Berlin wall construction

Just a suggestion that maybe the boldfaced words in the blub shouldn't be West Berlin but rather Berlin Wall, as it's the anniversary of the Berlin Wall construction after all! --Canuckguy 00:20, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. And if West Berlin is gonna be bolded, oughtn't East Berlin be bolded as well? -Elmer Clark 01:44, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Evil Monkey - Hello 02:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
On MainPage, the boldfaced links indicate featured wikicontent. On TFA, the link to the FA is bolded. On ITN, the link to the wikiarticle updated with the news materials is bolded. On DYK, the link to the new article is bolded. For Selected Anniversaries, the bolded link must refer to an article with the date in the text (one of several rules in editing this section on MainPage). Berlin Wall, West Berlin & East Berlin fit the bill here. However, the Berlin Wall page is slated to be featured on the anniversary of the destruction of the wall. To avoid double-featuring the same article within the same year (another rule), "West Berlin" was bolded on today's template on the anniversary of the construction. "East Berlin" could have been bolded, too, but one is enough for each line. Perhaps we can alternate each year till one of them becomes a markedly better article. This year, there are only 4 events on the template (a mistake on my part), so I've bent the rules and bolded both East & West Berlin. -- PFHLai 21:28, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Eight-Nation Alliance on Aug 14

Can we add the Eight-Nation Alliance occupation of Beijing in 1900 for "On this Day" of Aug 14? I guess I don't have the authority to do it. Thanks. Pseudotriton 04:53, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestion. This is not on MainPage because I couldn't confirm the date. In the first paragraph, the Boxer Rebellion article says "The brutal uprising crumbled on August 4, 1900 when 20,000 foreign troops entered the Chinese capital, Peking (Beijing)". Scroll down a bit, it says "The International force reached and occupied Beijing on August 14." I question both dates. The equivalent article in Chinese Wikipedia has August 14th as the date the Eight-Nation Alliance (minus the Germans) reaching the outskirts of Peking, taking the city gates on the 15th, and occupying most of the city on the 16th. So, was it August 4th, August 14th or August 16th ? We need references. A "safer" anniversary to feature the whole Boxer Rebellion would be the anniversary of the signing of the Boxer Protocol. (The date is on the document, available in Chinese Wikisource.) -- PFHLai 12:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zhejiang Death Toll

The death toll has risen to 114 in Zhejiang, according to CTV Newsnet. JodoYodo 05:22, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reminder. Actually, the article on the typhoon says 214 (+2 more in the Philippines). I've changed the text on MainPage to "more than 200". Hopefully, we don't need to update the number anymore. BTW, please use Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors next time you propose similar minor tweaks of MainPage contents. You may get a quicker response there. --PFHLai 12:43, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AIDS Conference

I think that the XVI International AIDS Conference, 2006 that started last night in Toronto, Canada, warrents inclusion in the "In The News" section. It's the largest conference on HIV/AIDS ever and this is an event that affects the whole world. Jeff 11:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestion. Please make use of Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates if you really think this is major international news that should be on ITN. (I ain't so sure, unless they announce a new treatment and we have a wikiarticle on it.) -- PFHLai 12:29, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To Pluto or not to be, that is the planet

The planet Pluto should be featured on the wikipedia or wikinews front page, because this may be the last time you can do so. Right now there is an astronomical congress in Prague going on, with 3.000 top nerds, who get to decide whether or not Pluto should be demoted to a space pebble and cease to belong to full-glory planets.

See the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4789531.stm

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.70.32.136 (talk • contribs) 12:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks for the suggestion. When such a decision has been made, please update relevent wikiarticles and then propose a headline for In The News at Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates. Don't forget to update Current events. Thanks. -- PFHLai 12:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I feel like crying :( Ok, enough of the chatroomesque talk page...)--Howard the Duck 13:17, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Somehow, I get the feeling that even after Pluto is properly classified as a Kuiper belt object, we'll be able to put the article on the front page. --Dhartung | Talk 16:53, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know it's not the right place to propose such a thing, but wouldn't it make sense to have Definition of planet as Today's Featured Article soon? It's already Featured. I think someone should go and request it if they agree. Jellypuzzle | Talk 17:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to contact the Featured Article Director for this. -- PFHLai 19:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Prrrrffffff. They think they can tell me what to call things now? Sod that!! It screws up the mnemonics, millions of textbooks will have to be changed for the sake of one pathetic little pedantic moan. To me Pluto will always, until the end of my days, be a *planet*. Thankyou, and tune in next week for another rant on the anally-retentive and methods of bowel-washing. Lady BlahDeBlah 19:13, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

VJ Day Not On "On this Day..."

Why in the world is VJ Day not mentioned on the main page in any way? It's quite significant for August 14th. What's the deal? AJFederation 20:38, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hang in there. Victory over Japan Day will be on MainPage tomorrow, i.e. in about 3 hours. --PFHLai 20:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In case any one is confused, V-J Day from the point of view of North America is the 14th, but from the point of view of people in the Pacific was the 15th. Dragons flight 20:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The International Date Line has a well-known POV bias. --Dhartung | Talk 04:25, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Metawiki

I tried to click the metawiki icon but my IE browser couldn't open it: it suggested a download of an "unknown" filetype. Maybe an admin oughta have a look n fix it.--Steven Fruitsmaak | Talk 21:26, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what the problem was. I clicked on the icon and meta's MainPage showed up on screen as expected. Perhaps someone has fixed it already. -- PFHLai 21:43, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rampant Australian Bias

An article on a South Australian bus system followed by one on Queensland's biggest pest as articles of the day? Clearly examples of Wikipedia's pro-Australian bias. Lisiate 03:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's just because we're more literate than other countries (including New Zealand) and so end up writing better articles. ;) - Mark 03:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't know convicts were literate. :-) NZL
Crazy Australians, with their July winters and backwards flowing toilets... Raul654 03:31, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's nothing. In Rand McNally, they wear hats on their feet and hamburgers eat people! —David Levy 03:44, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There's an old British folk song called The World Turned Upside Down ("If buttercups buzz'd after the bee // If boats were on land, churches on sea // If ponies rode men and if grass ate the cows // And cats should be chased into holes by the mouse"). According to legend, the British troops at the Siege of Yorktown (the final battle of the American revolution) played it as they surrenered. Raul654 04:33, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Raul, if you were better read you'd realise that the Coriolis effect only works on the scale of weather systems and the direction that water flows in sinks and toilets is purely to do with the shape of the vessel. I was going to complain yesterday about the bias displayed regarding busways that go past my house... ;) --Monotonehell 04:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not necessarily - "If one takes great care to create a flat circular pool of water with a small, smooth drain; to wait for eddies caused by filling it to die down; and to remove the drain from below (or otherwise remove it without introducing new eddies into the water) – then it is possible to observe the influence of the Coriolis effect in the direction of the resulting vortex." - Coriolis effect Raul654 04:39, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Narf! Touche' - Besides 'our' proper Australian Cyclones move clockwise whilst anti-cyclones move anticlockwise. You Northern Hemispherians should stop it with the anti-anti-bias and adopt proper and civilised Southern Hemispherian weather systems. --Monotonehell 04:45, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Please report any bias errors to Talk:Main Page/Bias--Clawed 03:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Let's not forget Cynna Kydd coming up in one week. It's obvious our FA director's brain has been inflatrated by the evil Aussies and their mind-control ways. -- SmthManly / ManlyTalk / ManlyContribs 04:46, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Put your hypnotic skull koala back on and conform! --Monotonehell 04:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
NEVER!!! That thing made me eat way too much Vegemite. -- SmthManly / ManlyTalk / ManlyContribs 04:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair - I scheduled Cynna Kydd due to Ambi's superliminal powers of persuasion. Raul654 04:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That made me wanna join the Navy. -- SmthManly / ManlyTalk / ManlyContribs 05:16, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, not one comment has been related to the initial question, excluding Clawed - this is probably BJAODN-worthy now :P.
Anyways, I count 6 articles (August 4, August 9, August 16, August 18, August 19, August 20) which are directly related to America (or, at least, as related to the US as cane toads is to Australia), as opposed to Australia's three (August 14, August 15, August 22) that will be featured on the front page up until August 25th. Daniel.Bryant 08:57, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Just part of the Australia Cabal's evil plot. -- SmthManly / ManlyTalk / ManlyContribs 20:00, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Considering the U.S. has fourteen times as many people in it as Australia, and that we have a longer recorded history, having three TFAs this month to our six ain't too bad for you guys. Andrew Levine 19:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe we need to find another Pokemon... Pacific Coast Highway (blah • I'm a hot toe picker) 12:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How can this page be vandalised

I saw a I.P. edit the main page.How can this page be edited by non-users when it's fully protected? --Scott3 03:09, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As a joke, Drini unprotected it on APril 1 2006 (it was reprotected 15 minutes later). Guanaco did the same thing later in the day, and it was reprotected 4 minutes later. Raul654 03:10, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It wasn't always protected, either. Back in 2001 there wasn't frequent vandalism so it wasn't protected. - Mark 03:27, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree to this too... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.22.12.250 (talk • contribs) 10:01, 15 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Time of main article change

Could the main article also be changed just at midnight EST? Just want to know. Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by K09 (talk • contribs) 20:03, 15 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Wikipedia goes by Coordinated Universal Time, not EST. Please see above #The Article of the Day should be changed at midnight. --PFHLai 20:48, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Why is the eastern United States more important than the western United States, let alone the rest of the world? — ceejayoz talk 02:07, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's server time? (Which isn't a good reason to change, of course; but merely an explanation of why EST might be regarded differently from another arbitrary timezone.) Kirill Lokshin 15:18, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On this day...

Why doesn't the OTD section have a link to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries? It took me a while to find it. Piet 14:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to ask the creator of Template:SelAnnivFooter. -- PFHLai 16:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The link in OTD sends you to List of historical anniversaries which is a content space article, there's a link at the top of this talk page that sends you to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries since this is a 'housekeeping side' article. Same with all the other sections on the main page - they have their housekeeping links on this talk page. --Monotonehell 17:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
First, that's a lot of clicks. Second, I think you're wrong, at the top of Talk:List of historical anniversaries is a link to Wikipedia:WikiProject Days of the year.
Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries is what I was looking for, I found it after some searching. The thing is, when someone complains about the OTD section, there's always someone else ready to shout "get involved in the selection process", so it should be a bit easier to actually get there. Piet 07:44, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is what I mean

I'm not supporting or denouncing how it currently is, just pointing out where it is. It could be better, but I'm not sure if mainspace is the place for contribute liks... --Monotonehell 08:01, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I misunderstood, when you said "this talk page" I thought you meant the talk page of the page you mentioned just before. Sorry. Very clear picture, even I couldn't miss it now :-)
That's a useful box, I have to admit I never really noticed it. You're right main page is not the good place, but maybe the box could receive a slightly more prominent place at the top of this page, next to the big announcements rather than underneath them. Wouldn't that steer more people away from this talk page to the right place? Piet 09:02, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you click the 'Archive' link on the OTD section of the main page, you get taken to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/August which is pretty close to where you wanted, and there's also a link there to go up one level to the Selected anniversaries page you wanted. The problem is that it's called Archive, like the way the Archive link on the featured article box takes you to this month's lineup which isn't completely what you expect. --81.132.80.88 18:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Russian Wikipedia (www.wikipedia.org)

As of today, the Russian version of Wikipedia has 100,000+ articles. That should be observed at the main Wikipedia portal. Camptown 17:04, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We don't have a 100,000+ section on our MainPage. www.wikipedia.org is not part of English Wikipedia. You may want to bring this up with 'Meta-Wiki'. --PFHLai 17:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion for this is at m:talk:www.wikipedia.org template. — BRIAN0918 • 2006-08-16 19:18

It also may be worth mentioning that the language editions around the logo on www.wikipedia.org are the top eight in number of articles, not a list of Wikipedias with 100,000+ articles. To get there, the Russian Wikipedia would need to knock the lowest-count off (Spanish, at 142,000 articles). GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 19:59, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Top 10 actually. :-) Prodego talk 20:03, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eurovision

Could we possibly have a "Did you know" segment without a Eurovision contest factoid? They seem to be getting obscure and uninteresting, and frankly it's getting old. --Jquarry 22:18, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The DYKs will be more irrelevant each day! We can't expect interesting facts in new articles everyday; after all we have 1,322,000 articles already! I don't mean there's nothing else interesting to write about, but it gets harder to find it for every day.--Cloviz 23:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So fix it. Read some new articles and make some suggestions.--Peta 23:50, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok here's one: "DYK the Eurovision song contest has featured in more DYK segments than any other Wikipedia article?".... sorry couldn't resist! :P --Jquarry 00:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I admit, for a moment seeing the image on the mainpage, I thought today's article was going to be about Klingons... Speaking of which, I am offended by the lack of Star Trek bias! The 40th Grand High Wizard of Nerdom convention is this weekend in Vegas --coinciding with the premiere of Snakes on a Plane. In this kind of perfect storm the average geek will nerdgasm so hard they'll bust a tribble. --Bobak 00:09, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dood, I think you need to lay off the Red Bull :) --Jquarry 00:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I was just coming here to say the same thing! We need to lay off the Eurovision, circus animals, and medal of honor winners for a while. In part its because very few editors know how to get an article trhough the DYK process before the five day timeline expires, and they seem to have very focused interests. savidan(talk) (e@) 02:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
What would you suggest we put in their place? GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 04:45, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You know, it's hard to say, being as these articles haven't been created yet. Generally speaking, though, I'd like a little more variety. savidan(talk) (e@) 05:11, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Some people actually enjoy Eurovision. *hugs all 4 EV albums*--Lady BlahDeBlah 14:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Beautiful pic of the day

I just want to say to the FPC people, beautiful selection. Too bad we couldn't have run it on US Memorial Day. Daniel Case 00:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And then we would "run" allusive pictures in every country's Memorial Day or similar anniversary? Hehe.--Cloviz 01:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If you did not know, the picture of day is basically selected in the order that the images were promoted to featured status. This is unlike the featured article of the day where users can make suggestions. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 01:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's mostly true. Sometimes I put them on specific days upon request. For example, the Malé image was put on Maldivian independence day and the Map of India was put on Indian independence day, but those were only a few days different than what they would have been. howcheng {chat} 15:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, today's featured picture is a bit of a let-down. It's of poor quality, and certainly wouldn't pass WP:FPC today. It's too blurry, and it doesn't portray the subject well. —Cuiviénen 13:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was promoted less than three months ago. The detail is not that great in full res but keep in mind that that res is twice the minimum requirement. Redquark 13:56, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Main page footer

Brian, your footer doesn't work when people click on (+) at the top of the page to start a new section. -- 64.229.228.143 16:45, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

why can't i edit?

Why is the front page only editable by administrators? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ali'i (talk • contribs) 20:42, 17 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Main Page FAQ#Why am I not able edit to the Main Page?. Hope this helps. -- PFHLai 20:56, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Please sign your posts using ~~~~. Eleven minutes after you asked this, someone replaced this whole page with the message "HACKED". To avoid this happening on the main page, it is only editable by administrators. Piet 20:59, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, duh. Next time i'll pay closer attention to details. --Ali'i 21:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair Use Image on Main Page

I hate to be copyright paranoid, but perhaps Image:Queensbridge.jpg would work for Featured Article of the Day on the Main Page. Even though it's not as representative of the subject as the current image, it's not fair use. -- tariqabjotu 00:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Follow-up on Talk:Main Page/Archive 76#Main Page images

Landscapes are fine, but 100x100px often makes portraits too narrow. Can we change it to something like 100x125px ? As long as it's not wider than 100px, it's okay, right ? --PFHLai 13:25, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Front Page Content ? / Featured Article of the Day is a Joke

I don't believe that Wikipedia is putting its best foot forward by showcasing a thug's first album as the featured article of the day. It's low culture, and makes Wikipedia look like even more of a joke than it's already managed to accomplish. - MSTCrow 15:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I happen to agree with MST Crow concerning showcasing a rap album on the front page www.geocities.com/berniethomas68 15:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, we might say no to pop albums in general, but it would be silly to say no to rap albums specifically. Wikipedia is not attempting to define taste and it is not censored. Marskell 15:56, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I totally concur. More proper culture on the front page please. Obviously rap does not qualify because, err, wait... why is that again? Soo 15:45, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm willing to bet you didn't mind when the band Marilyn Manson appeared on Wikipedia front page because you "loved" them according to your userboxes. Marilyn Manson has a squeaky clean image and doesn't have any controversy? I had to laugh at that. All because you don't like a certain type of music or culture doesn't mean it is "joke." --63.233.41.123 15:55, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You don't get it. TFA is about the quality of the article NOT about the value of the topic it covers. Get over it. --mav 15:53, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Low culture? How racist... dposse 16:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I initially had the same impression, but the article is really well done. I say keep it.
Articles are chosen for the quality of the article, not the quality of the subject (which is far too subjective to accurately evaluate). —Cuiviénen 18:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New header

I' popped a new header on this page. (Edit second try worked better lol). It's a little longer than the old one, but intergrates the archive box and leaves more room for more archive links. The concept is to be more welcoming to new visitors. Under the WP:BRD concept; comments? Love hate? --Monotonehell 16:35, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice. dposse 16:19, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Can the "If you want to suggest a Wikipedia article that has been recently updated with current affairs information go to the In the news page." bit be changed so it links to Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates please? Batmanand | Talk 20:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It could, but I purposely linked to the instructional pages rather than the actual suggestion pages. I think it better to send new users to instructions first. The second paragraph on Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates says "Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page will not be put into the live template.". Which is where I've linked to first. The philosophy behind the header is to give new users a helpful path to what they want. If we really wanted to I supose we could also add the direct to suggestion page links. --Monotonehell 20:19, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What happend to Wikipedia for the last four hours?

It was completely unaccessable. Anyone know what happened? 66.0.5.4 20:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The rumor is the people who supply the IP addresses put them back into circulation... --Monotonehell 20:14, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I would also like to know what happened. Mathiastck 20:14, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I heard on the IRC channel that the IP address was removed. dposse 20:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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