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October 12

Curious question

what is

mean of interstrate

Editing the top right corner info box in album page

I think my question may be the same as "October 8 - Misc in Musical Artist?". The allmusic link in the top right corner info box for "Chronicle Vol. 1" album by Creedence Clearwater Revival is incorrect, it leads to another album. The star rating is also wrong. I have been making tiny edits wherever required without an account for some time now. Now I have created an account (dhawal1), but I'm not able to make this small change.

Subst'ed?

Someone posted this to my user page: "Just FYI, this template isn't supposed to be subst'ed." in reference to a copyvio template. Where can I look to find a plain English translation? I'm scratching my head over this. Kathy A. 13:07, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

This means you should not add {{copyvio}} to a page, but {{subst:copyvio}}. The difference is the first version leaves exactly what you added while the second version leaves the expanded version of the template. Templates that should be "subst'd" should be so indicated in their usage notes (on the template itself or its talk page). -- Rick Block (talk) 13:46, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it sounds like the comment you received is the opposite of what is described above. The poster wants you to use {{templatename}}, not {{subst:templatename}}. dpotter 14:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Template substitution also provides an enumeration of those templates that should almost always be substituted and those that should almost never be substituted; {{copyvio}}, FWIW, is, as your talk page interlocutor observes, of the latter set (consistent with Dpotter's conclusion), principally because a substitution produces "far too much wikicode" and because "a bot relies upon it to populate WP:CP with unlisted articles". Joe 16:14, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you both very much -- now I know what was meant, and where to look for more info!

sub sub section link

I am having trouble linking to a sub sub section on the Chris Young (baseball starting pitcher) page. There are two Game3 sub sections in the 2006 National League Division Series page. I want to link to the second.TonyTheTiger 22:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Here is the link to the second subsection. 2006 National League Division Series#Game 3, October 7 2. Notice, the 2 at the end to differentiate between the two sections -- Lost^(talk) 03:27, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

ThanksTonyTheTiger 14:23, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

October 13

Image upload

The following is an e-mail I just received. I have succeeded in gettting permission to use the John Kendrew image in Wikipedia, I gather full permission, but the image has to be low resolution. How do I handle and tag this??

"I have, through various discussions with people here, been able to get approval for you to use the image of John Kendrew on your Wikipedia entry. As you know this is not the sort of approval we normally give, but it was felt that we could in this case. However, we are only prepared to let you have a low resolution image, which is of good enough quality for web pages and people's own use, but if people require a higher resolution copy for publishing or commerical use, they could then get in touch with us. If this is OK then please use the image and credit it to MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology. ANNETTE FAUX Archivist " --Dumarest 13:20, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Simply shrink the image in a free image editing program, such as the GIMP. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 13:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

The image, sent from MRC, is already in the form indicated. The question is what image template/tag should I use in uploading it?? And how to validate that MRC has released it but I am the uploader, and there are conditions [size] but otherwise a released image??

You have to be careful with image permission; permission for Wikipedia only isn't accepted. You should make sure you know what licence is given by the licence holder. If they've said 'fine for any use but it must be reduced size', you can use {{CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat|the image is low-resolution}}; but make sure they have said that! You should send a copy of the request and the response to permissions AT wikimedia DOT org, where Wikipedians can confirm independently that the permission is correct. --ais523 12:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

informations

how can i add my username to a wikipedia-project ? or join the participants list ? Yunis79 14:33, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

• If the list is a list on the page and not a category, you simply edit it and add in your name. If the list is a category, put your userpage in the category by adding the category code to your userpage. See my userpage for an example: I'm part of WikiProject Anime and Manga. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 16:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

floods

how do you get a good page about floods?

• You type "Flood" into the box at the left and click Go. Notinasnaid 15:11, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah, but the question was about how to get a "good page" about floods. In which case, the procedure is to type "flood" into the search box and click Go, then click on Edit, cleaning the text up and finding reliable sources for its claims, at which point you can nominate it as a good article. And voila, you're done! Confusing Manifestation 02:48, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Largest College Campus by Acreage

I am trying to find out the largest College Campus by acreage only... Berry College in Mount Berry, Ga. (Near Rome, Ga.) has 28,000 acres. Are there any bigger?

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --MCB 17:30, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Redirection

I was writing a new article the other day and I was wondering how to make title redirection. For instance, if type in "Arthur Wellesley" into the search, it will redirect me immediately to the article on Arthru Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington. Thank you.

You can try this yourself by looking going to the "Arthur Wellesley" article. At the top you will see Redirected from... Arthur Wellesley. This isn't a silly circular link, as it might seem: click on it to visit the redirect page, and then click Edit to see the magic. Notinasnaid 15:30, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

treatment for cardiac problems

I would like to know the name of the Irish physician who treated heart disease successfully with his secret 'heart formula' which was revealed to be tincture of hawthorn after his death in the 1890's.

• Perhaps you are looking for the reference desk? — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 17:09, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

To elaborate on Dark Shikari's answer, this help desk answers queries related to wikipedia only. To know anything else you can try asking the reference desk under the appropriate section -- Lost^(talk) 14:06, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Rogue employee changing company information

We have an ex-employee that inserts his personal information in our company biography. We don't know what to do and feel a little helpless. What measures can be taken to handle this?

• You can request that the article be Semi-protected if the employee is using an IP or sockpuppets to edit the article. If he's using a single main account, you can report it to an administrator. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 19:08, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

W. O. Larsen, Danish pipemaker

How do I find the date of death for Ole Larsen, famous pipemaker of Copenhagen? Thanks very much. """"

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --MCB 17:32, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Strange watchlist behaviour

I have had the page 1 Ceres on my watchlist for some time, but it's just today been moved to Ceres (dwarf planet). Now both these pages are appearing on the alphabetic watchlist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist/edit) but neither of them are appearing anywhere on the watchlist itself, not for the move itself or the most recent other change. Is this a known problem with page moves? Cheers — SteveRwanda 18:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Reporting Vandalism

I'm a very occasional Wikipedia reader who noticed that an entry has been vandalized (Olaf_II_of_Norway): is there a simple means for uneducated outsiders to flag this, or does one have to go about creating an account and learning wikipedia protocols etc. to handle it?

I looked over the wikipedia vandalism entry -- it's daunting to a neophyte. Is the best thing to just assume that someone who knows what they're doing will spot the problem and fix it pretty quickly?

207.168.235.190 18:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

All you have to do is revert the article. Go to the history, find the last non-vandalized entry, open it, click edit, and save. Use "rvv vandalism" or a similarly useful edit summary to show that you have reverted it. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 19:08, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

How to revert to a previous version of a page may also be of some help. --S-Ranger 21:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

who started wikipedia?

who founded wikipedia and when?

See Wikipedia entry :) Equendil Talk 19:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Antwan Jones

Hello -

I recently submitted an article for Antwan Jones. I checked today to see the status (It was created Oct. 10) but it is nowhere to be found. Please help!

Micheal Kutner

Your article can still be found here: Wikipedia:Articles for creation/2006-10-12#Antwan Jones. No-one accepted (or rejected) the request, possibly because the subject does not appear to meet the criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (academics). If you disagree you are welcome to create an account (at Special:Userlogin) and post it yourself, though it may be deleted. --Cherry blossom tree 22:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

metals

how do the properties determine the uses for diffrent metals.

Umm, it depends? This sounds a lot like a homework question. You havn't even told us if there's any properties in particular that you're interested in. I mean, there's electrical and heat conductivity, malleability, radioactive stability, density, colour, lustre, and on and on. You could fill a book with the possible answers to this question. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

It does sound like a homework question. Knowledge based questions should be asked at the reference desk, but this is probably too general. You should read metal (and articles linked from there) and articles on specific metals (copper, zinc, iron and so on) and if you have a more specific question, try the reference desk. --Cherry blossom tree 22:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

October 14

Santa Fe Depot

I erred and can't figure out how to fix it. I was attempting to link the List of Registered Historic Places in San Diego County, California listing of "Santa Fe Depot", which had no article link, to its proper article Union Station (San Diego). Instead of making the html link "[Union Station (San Diego)|Santa Fe Depot]" (outside brackets not shown), I made a redirect of Santa Fe Depot which I'm now positive was the wrong proceedure as the simple title "Santa Fe Depot" likley should go to a disambiguation page.

I've since corrected the "Santa Fe Depot" link at List of Registered Historic Places in San Diego County, California, but now I can't delete Santa Fe Depot or redirect it anywhere. Can somebody in the know fix this? Thanks. --Marriedtofilm 02:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

P.S. I did the same thing to Topeka Atchison and Santa Fe Railroad Station. Now it wont redirect to Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway as I've assigned it to. --Marriedtofilm 02:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

It seems to redirect properly here. Did you try clearing your browser's cache? — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 02:46, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I feel a little embarrassed now. Topeka Atchison and Santa Fe Railroad Station now appears to properly redirect. Can't explain why it didn't work properly for several minutes. But I guess the issue is "Santa Fe Depot" (now redirecting to Union Station (San Diego)) seems like a search term as there could be many Santa Fe Depots and it probably should be deleted. I don't know how to do that. --Marriedtofilm 02:57, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I just broke the Santa Fe Depot redirect for you. Now it won't redirect, and you can go edit it. In the future, when you get redirected, it says "redirected from XXXXXXXX" on the top of the article. If you click on the XXXXXXXXX (whatever the redirect's name was), it'll send you back to the redirect so you can edit it. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 12:36, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Subscription to the Post?

Hello everybody. I would just like to ask how you subscribe to the Wikipedia Signpost. I signed up using my other account called Chili14, but I forgot how to do it and I don't want to redirect it all to my talk page because I don't know if it will screw up the bot. If anybody knows how or can refer me to another place, please do so. Thank you very much and please have a nice day.--Chilifix 04:22, 14 October 2006 (UTC) P.S Go to my userpage for an update on Chili14.

To receive a weekly message with the full Signpost masthead, you may place User talk:Chilifix at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Tools/Spamlist; should you prefer a single Signpost box to be updated each week, you may place one of the subscription templates on your user or talk page. Hope that helps... Joe 04:47, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, that did help alot!--Chilifix 05:19, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

How to delete my ip address please ?

Many thanks for putting my mind at rest. I should have read the small print. I now have an account.

Search problem

Good day! I created an article Nuestra Señora del Buen Suceso, but when I search it using the Search button, there are no matches. What's wrong with my article?

Thanks, User:Mark j

See Wikipedia:Very Frequently Asked Questions#An article doesn't show up in the search. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 11:02, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Question on new article

I have just created a new article and saved it but when I then put the article title in the search box it doesn't find it. Please help. Newworldtapestry 10:31, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Very Frequently Asked Questions#An article doesn't show up in the search. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 11:03, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks but how long do you typically have to wait? Newworldtapestry 11:19, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

A lot. Usually it's several weeks at least. In any case, this article (The New World Tapestry) isn't in a very good state, and I'm not sure the subject is notable enough. Hopefully others with more knowledge in the field will look into it, and help improve it if it is kept. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 12:16, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. You say it's not in a very good state - do you mean actual content of it or the format/layout. Sorry but I'm new to all this Newworldtapestry 13:35, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Mostly the layout. I can't really comment about the content since I am not knowledgeable about art and have no experience with art-related Wikipedia articles. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 14:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Supress interwiki link

Hello.
French contributor to WP-FR (french), I'd like to delete the [[fr:SuperCard]] interwiki link in the SuperCard article because it's not the same thing. But I'm blocked with a "anti-spam" blocking from WP. Anyone can delete this interwiki link please ?
Thanks a lot :)
Draky 10:36, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I've fixed it. The problem was that the article had a link to the blacklisted URL http://supercard.netfirms.com/, and wouldn't accept any edit which keeps it. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 12:12, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot :) Draky 13:36, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

HAVING AN ACCOUNT

COULD YOU PLEASE HOW DO WE GO ABOUT GETTING A VISA ACOOUNT FOR OUR INSTITUTION?

This is Wikipedia, a free encyclopedia and this help desk is for answering questions about how to use Wikipedia. Knowledge questions are asked at the References desk, but I'm not sure that anyone can help you other than noting that it's hard to imagine any institution easier to look up than Visa who offer sign up and advertize their contact information all over the internet and in businesses in many stores all over the world. Try Clicking here.--Fuhghettaboutit 11:34, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Lost page.

I have just created and saved a page titled "Police Rugby League (Victoria)". After saving, I can not find it again, please help.

Thanks,

Barry Randall <removed email for security reasons>

• You'll find it here. However, I have tagged it for speedy deletion, as it falls under CSD/A7: an article about a club that doesn't reach notability standards, such as having multiple news articles and/or other types of secondary sources about it. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 12:39, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Redlinks After Modifying CSS

I changed the value settings for link colors in my User:CSS after getting help from an earlier post. However, after doing that, I cannot see any redlinks. What tagline do I insert to make redlinks appear red again? Aelfthrytha 13:05, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

creating a page

how do i create a page??

See: Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. -- Lost^(talk) 14:57, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, you are required to have an account - see WP:ACCOUNT. Addhoc 15:14, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Valid use of subpages?

I am just wondering if the following a valid use of a user subpage. I upload a fair amount of fair use images (in particular album covers). As they require a rationale, and all the albums covers I upload, I would deem to be uploaded under the same rationale, is it ok to create subpage template which I subst, that has the contants specified (mainly the part where it specifies why its fair use e.g. can't replace original etc.)? It doesn't seem to fall into allowed or disallowed uses on the WP page on subpages (it obviously would be a bad idea to create it as a public template, which is why I have it as a subpage). Thanks. - ^Рэд_хот 14:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

As long as the template makes sense in terms of the rationale for each case where it is used, I dont see a problem with creating it as your user subpage -- Lost^(talk) 15:23, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

That's what I thought. Thanks - ^Рэд_хот 15:30, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Help with an IP editor

Don't really know what to do here. 69.40.177.171 has been submitting well-written articles about notable albums to AfC, and I've been approving and creating them. But then, he's gone back to the created articles that he wrote... and removed the sources on all of them?? What should I do, and does anyone have any idea what *he* is doing? — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 16:24, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I couldnt make out why he removed the source!! Maybe just ask him on his talk page. He seems to have many edits to know the way of the wiki -- Lost^(talk) 18:35, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Pronunciation

HI, I found nowhere a key or audio file to help someone properly vocalize the word Wikipedia. I would really appreciate some help. Is it obvious? A confirmation would put the matter to rest. Thanks. And I would suggest an audio file on your main page would be a bonus.

Sincerely,

Jon R. Venema <email removed>

There is an audio version of Wikipedia's article on Wikipedia, which may be relevant for your purposes. See Wikipedia#External links. Cheers, Tangotango 16:44, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Deleting article

How do I get an administrator to delete an article in the Boston University Wiki (bu.elwiki.com)?

Thank you, 75.31.107.4 17:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

You will need to contact an administrator of that wiki. This is wikipedia. Admins here will not be able to help you with your request -- Lost^(talk) 18:31, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I can't see the statistics.

From Special:Statistics page, when I click "Detailed tables and charts of Wikipedia statistics" at the bottom, I get the message saying that "You are not authorized to view this page". What can I do? --Acepectif 19:26, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Nothing, the page is broken at the moment. — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 20:06, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Help returning deleted article entitled "AEKWONDO HALL OF FAME"

I am a new user and created the article TAEKWONDO HALL OF FAME. It was initially speedly deleted because there was not enough information identifying the source or autorization.

I then recreated it at length see below with extensive detail and clarity and it was deleted again: reason given was due to recreatuionof a deleted article. I am CONFUSED. PLEASE HELP!

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The TAEKWONDO HALL OF FAME is a non political organization which is based in the USA and founded by Gerard Robbins a 3 Time National AAU Taekwondo Champion and participant in the 2nd World Taekwondo Championship and Pre-World Taekwondo Games held in Seoul Korea in 1975 and 1978 respectfully. *See 1st Official National AAU Taekwondo Team In addition to being the first American to win simultaneous gold medals in form and sparring divisions at an official national Taekwondo event (1975),the founder also won the gold medal at the 1st Pan American Taekwondo Games held in Mexico City in 1978, and the Grand Championship at the All American Open Taekwondo, Karate, Kung Fu Championships, the same event won by Chuck Norris in 1967 and 1968.

The TAEKWONDO HALL OF FAME was created for the purpose of: "providing recognition and incentives by the way of awards to demonstrate excellence in the field of Taekwondo which is also referred to as "Tae Kwon Do", and "Taekwon-Do".

Kim Pyung Soo a tenth degree black belt and the first Korean Correspondent for Black Belt Magazine from 1964 to 1968 serves as the Senior Technical Advisor to the TAEKWONDO HALL OF FAME along with several other leaders in the field such as S. Henry Cho 9th Dan, Author and Director of the All American Open Taekwondo, Karate, and Kung-fu Championships since 1966, Richard Chun 9th Dan, Author, and former USA Team Coach, John Holloway the only American to medal in both World Taekwondo Federation (WTF) and International Taekwondo Federation (ITF) events. John Holloway also serves on the the Board of Directors of United States Taekwondo (USTA) the governing body for AAU Taekwondo in the USA and charter member of the United States Olympic Committee.

In addition to the twelve (12) technical advisors based in the United States, the TAEKWONDO HALL OF FAME ® has representative technical advisors in Puerto Rico, Mexico, Canada, Tahiti, Nepal, Norway, Russia, Nigeria,Australia, Singapore, India and elsewhere making it a truly global organization.

The TAEKWONDO HALL OF FAME recently received official registered trademark status ® from the United States Patent and Trademark Office located in Washington DC

Hmm. Because you completely redid the article, it shouldn't be speedily deleted as such. Unfortunately, if you can't come up with any references for any of this, it'll probably be deleted again anyway. Wooty 20:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Going through Google, I can only find a very small number of hits - using an exact search, I get 3 hits, none of which are relevant, and doing a broader search, only a one relevant result. There is no possible justification for keeping this article, it was both advertising which Wikipedia doesn't permit and it was for an organisation that cannot be described as notable (compare with the International Olympic Committee for example) if there was any reason to keep the article, another editor and a Wikipedia admin would have retained the article

Can't seem to find the wikipedia taskbar download.

I'm not entirely sure what you want, but it's probably listed at WP:TOOLS. --Cherry blossom tree 22:39, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Editing an article

Hi, I have used the Wikipedia much but only just registered and tried to edit.

I have just finished a Ph.D. on empathy and ethics, with a VERY large section on the history of the term empathy. I am wondering why I can't edit the opening paragraph of the Empathy article. Likewise for Theodor Lipps, and for Carl Rogers. I can't seem to find this in the FAQ's. Thanks, kc

There are two ways to do this: edit the whole article (see the "Edit this page" tab on the top of the page), or click on the link to edit the first section, and change the last character of the URL from a "1" to a "0", so it becomes &action=edit&section=0 instead of &action=edit&section=1.[1] — Armedblowfish (talk|mail|contribs) 21:27, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello wikipedian people!

Congratulations! How are you? FML ^{hi me at pt} 21:11, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I think your looking for WP:NEW. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 21:15, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Edit summary question

In the edit summary section, I often see people place an arrow that redirects to a certain section in that article, confirming that they edited that section (like this: → *section*). I still don't know how to do this....Answer please? Xtremeblur 23:57, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

If you edit by section, it should automatically be filled out for you. For example, the full text of my edit summary, here, is going to be /* Edit summary question */ replying to helpdesk. Hope that helps! Luna Santin 00:03, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. Xtremeblur 02:00, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Trouble Editing

I'm having trouble editing the paragraphs I added to the Charleston County School of the Arts citation. I'm not sure why I can't save what I added.

Bill Smyth Curriculum Coordinator School of the Arts

Bill, what happens exactly when you click the "Save page" button after editing? --MCB 20:27, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

October 15

Assigning Anon posting to username after post?

Hi, I know I'm rather stupid for doing this, but sometimes I make edits and realise I wasn't logged in, is there any way that I can fix this after I've realised and/or stop Wikipedia from allowing me to post while not logged in so I dont make the mistake again?

Thanks

Unfortunately, we can't reassign edits to different users. The closest we can do is to log in and go back, either signing it (if it's a talk page), or by making a null edit and using the edit summary to claim it, if it's an article or project page. Luna Santin 02:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

unalienable Rights

I have been looking for a list of the "unalienable Rights" Jefferson refers to in the Preamble of the Declaration of Independence. Can you direct me to a site that will list the unalienable rights that are not mentioned in the Declaration of Independence. On Wikepedia site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unalienable on the third line down from the top it refers to "Several different sets of inalienable rights have been suggested by philosophers". Can you direct me to any of those "Several different sets"? Also, which set would Jefferson be refering to as he wrote?

Thanks, Hikerjim

Try the article Human rights; it might have some more info. Anchoress 01:28, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

NPOV issues on Urdu Wikipedia

A certain user of English Wikipedia User:AFRAZULQURAISH (his talk) has somehow become an administrator at Urdu language Wikipedia. He has been abusing Urdu Wikipedia to impose his own Point of View and often poses personal attacks if confronted. He has had absolutely no regard for other users' opinions and has been writing articles by creating new words and terminologies in Urdu which have no existance in widely spoken and literary Urdu. Most of other administrator (inclding me) have tried to confront him but later backed off. Now he has tried to delete Urdu articles about Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf and Nawaz Sharif, and has created inflamatory titles of categories. Instead of dicussing he is removing deletion suggesting templates. He insists that article about Pakistan should be removed because in his opinion Pakistan has insulted Islam and humanity. I respect his opinion (although do not agree) but Wikpidea is not a place for opinion. He has been refered to Wikiedia Policies but has refused to accept by stating that I am singing the song of policies (it's a contemptuous expression). We don't have many strict policy policing members at Urdu Wikipedia, and I coudn't find a better place to complain about him. My question is what whould we, other users of Urdu Wikiopedia, do and can senior admins of English Wikipedia help us deal with this NPOV violator. Szhaider 01:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure how the Urdu Wikipedia works. Each language pedia has fairly independent working. You may like to take this up with the mediawiki foundation if there are no other official methods of dispute resolution there -- Lost^(talk) 03:42, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Scarborough

Why does searching Scarborough bring you to the English town? The Canadian Scarborough has ten times the population so therefore would be more likely to be looked up. --The Dark Side 01:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

This is a case for Wikipedia:Disambiguation. Either put a link to the Canadian town on top of this article or make this one a disambiguation page and create links to all towns named Scarborough from there -- Lost^(talk) 03:43, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Seymour Knox

I would like to request that the Seymour Knox page be moved to Seymour H. Knox, III so that I can create the proper pages for Seymour I and Seymour II. The following links (in addition to the Seymour H. Knox III redirect will need to be moved as well)

Have done it. Please go ahead and create a disambig page at Seymour Knox and link all other articles there -- Lost^(talk) 03:46, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Please move Seymour H. Knox III to Seymour H. Knox, III TonyTheTiger 12:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

O.K., now I realize there is no comma before Roman Numeralization. Could you please move Seymour H. Knox, II and Seymour H. Knox, I accordingly. TonyTheTiger 17:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Deleted Pages?

I am wondering if it is possible to revert pages that have apparently been deleted. For example, the article Otaku Ninjas did exist at some point but is not there anymore - can we revert to the page that was once there or is it gone for good?

Members of the Hockey Hall of Fame (chronological)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Articles

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Archive5

List of people by name: Knj-Knz

Members of the Hockey Hall of Fame (alphabetical)TonyTheTiger 02:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Administrators can delete and undelete pages, but generally only do so when a good reason is provided, keeping in mind deletion policy, including AfD, prod, and criteria for speedy deletion. The deletion log for the article in quesiton may have more information (including a reason for deletion), or you could contact the deleting administrator for comment. To request a review of the deletion, please see deletion review. Hope that helps! Luna Santin 03:13, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

You can see the reason for deletion by going to the URL of the page in question, and clicking on the link that says "deletion log". For example, Otaku ninjas has its reason for deletion as 13:08, 10 April 2006 Flowerparty (Talk | contribs) deleted "Otaku ninjas" (deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Otaku ninjas), and the AfD in question has a little more information. Confusing Manifestation 14:26, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

vatican city

1 Why vatican city have been given world heritage listing 2 how has world heritage listing affected vatican city202.76.138.19 03:16, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions, and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that's what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. -- Lost^(talk) 03:39, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm getting stressed on this article I've gotten involved in, Anabolic steroid

Hi, until now every article I've worked on has been a fun way to spend spare time. But I feel strongly about what's going on at Anabolic steroids and want to keep editing even though it's getting stressful, and looking over at the anaboic steroid talk page I see a lot of shouting matches have gone on that started as fairly civil disagreements. The disagreement I'm in is still and I hope remains civil,(but I'm concerned) but given the previous history , would it be not too soon for me to do an rfc? Regards,Rich 03:30, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't get sucked into disputes over tags. See talk:anabolic steroid#suggestion for cooperative editing. Tags are a complete waste of time. Some people act like putting a tag on an article will magically invoke a genie who will fix the article. See the rest of my answer at the bottom of the talk:anabolic steroid page. alteripse 03:39, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Condensing Userboxes

How do I go about "condensing" any userbox I make from a code like

{{Userbox |border-c = color |border-s = size |id-c = color |id-s = fontsize |id-fc = fontcolor |info-c = color |info-s = size |info-fc = color |id = ID |info = blah blah blah}}

To something like {{ShortAndEasyUserboxCode}}?

Or is this only something that happens when your userbox is accepted for public use? State Alchemist 03:34, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Answered on talk page. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 05:04, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

About special links

Can someone please tell me what the links [[es:Liberty Basic]] and [[nl:Liberty Basic]] do at the end of the Liberty Basic page? and how could I have discovered the answer to this without bothering you?-GrahameKing 04:44, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

There're links to other wiki's in other languages. They go in a box on the side of the page under the toolbox called in other languages. Hope that helps. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 04:56, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that, but I still can't find any help on this. The links I mentioned aren't working - if I put in a leading : on the dutch link it takes me to a translation in the Dutch Wikipedia but the other one doesn't seem to work. Should these links be made to work? I mean should they even be there after the category link at the bottom of the article? Should they be in the article at all? -GrahameKing 13:27, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, they should. Open the Liberty BASIC page and look at the links in the left toolbar - under the "toolbox" there should be an "in other languages" box, containing links to the Spanish and Dutch versions of the article - those links tell Wikipedia what the article is called in those other languages (incidentally, the es one probably didn't work because the page is titled Liberty BASIC, and there's no Liberty Basic redirect, whereas there is one on nl - it looks like the page now has the correct article links). Confusing Manifestation 14:23, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Redirecting

If I want to redirect a single phrase to an existing article, do I have to start a new article about the phrase and THEN redirect it? I'm not a brand new user, but I really haven't contributed as much as I'd like to yet besides editing and fixing typos (which seem to be quite abundant). -Cooter285 05:00, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

If you wanted to redirect (for example) hgjd to Games for some reason, you'd start the article hgjd and hit the redirect button in the toolbar (it has a #R), then enter the text to redirect to. But make sure it would be a valid redirect. -Royalguard11(Talk·Desk) 05:04, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow, that was fast. As it turns out, I didn't need to redirect anything. The phrase I typed (or NAME actually) was Naji Al-Hadithi, but I got an article for Naji Sabri. It wasn't exactly redirected, but the name I had typed, which I didn't notice at first, was in the article clip on the search page that I was looking at. Thanks for the help anyways! I didn't know how to redirect before, and now I know. Hopefully this will lead me to contribute more to the site, which is something that I've been wanting to do since I joined this summer.-Cooter285 05:20, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Even with your problem solved, I must say that no, you shouldn't create an article. Just use piped links, like this:

:In 1999, a [[Movie|movie with the same name]] was released. Which ends up like:

In 1999, a movie with the same name was released.

☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 05:22, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I saw an example of this in my Naji search as well -> Live from Baghdad. Thanks! -Cooter285 05:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

How do I add a tag to ask for a page to be edited for bias?

How do I add a tag to ask for a page to be edited for bias?

Type {{POV-check}} and

appears. Addhoc 12:04, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

stats.wikimedia.org gives HTTP 403

Hi,

does anybody know why the site http://stats.wikimedia.org gives a 403 Forbidden? It was accessible approx. 2 weeks ago but it is not in the last 1.5 weeks. I just would like to know if I can expect the site working again (and when).

Thank you,

Lajos --86.101.71.240 12:22, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Citing Trouble

I'm using the one source for different points in an article. But when I put the citation on more than one sentence, half the article doesn't appear. I added nowiki tags to show what I did. For example:

After being spotted at her graduation fashion show, King was invited to New York to begin modeling professionally.<ref name="Model">{{cite web | publisher=AskMen.com| title=James King| url= http://www.askmen.com/women/models/41c_james_king.html| accessdate=October 15|acessyear=2006}}</ref>

By 1997, despite her growing modeling career, King was a [[heroin]] addict and [[alcoholic]], but following the death of her boyfriend, [[fashion photographer]] Davide Sorrenti (who overdosed on heroin) she became sober.<ref name="Model">

After the <ref name="Model"> tag, it would be blank. What should I do? -Lindsey8417 13:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

The <ref name="Model"> is the opening tag. It wants the closing </ref> to be complete. However, you can put in the opening and closing tags combined (for the second use) by using <ref name="Model"/>. Try that. Confusing Manifestation 14:18, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Using Wikipedia Images on a website

I'm designing a website for my school (i'm a student) and I've been using wikimedia images to spice things up and provide information, Wikipedia is cited as the source for the images well enough and I've made a big banner for the Links page saying how great it is =) I know each image has it's own circumstances but is it likely to be a problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean2k2 (talk • contribs)

It shouldn't be a problem as long as you do not use images that are tagged as "Fair use". Note that some licences have restrictions (for example, GFDL images require a link to the place you got them from), and you should probably check to make sure you have the proper requirements for each image. Good luck on your project! Prodego ^talk 13:58, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

118th Pennsylvania Corn Exchange Regiment

I am new to Wikipedia and find a few things frustrating. I posted an article called "118th Pennsylvania 'Corn Exchange' Regiment." An unknown person marked it for not being categorized and needing style changes. I have acted in good faith in creating this article and don't know what else to do or where to ask for help. Who marked it? An administrator? I sometimes get things marked or changed and it is done anonymously. This isn't right. I should know who is doing these things and who the administrator is and how to contact them. Often I try to reply in the Talk or Discussion page with pleas for help and never get an answer (refer to my contributions in the article "Military Badge of Merit" and see how an apparent administrator "Hunock" never identified himself and never answered my questions to him!). I don't think this is a way to treat a newcomer. I think the anonymous person that marked my article should tell me what they want so I can do it, or they should be a contributor and just do it themselves. If someone is going to mark up an article, they should be prepared to take on the responsibility to do the work themselves. The way my article was marked up without any explanatin was ignorant. Especially when I see so many other articles out there that have no sources at all and easily get past the censors. Please don't send me links to Wikipedia style, rules, etc. I have already read those and still need someome to answer my questions. I have had enough of the referral links. I have tried to share my expertise on certain subjects in an objective way with sources annotated and void of original research, etc. - in accordance of Wikipedia rules. I feel compelled to contribute because I see basic misinformation with certain topics that can actually hurt and discredit your project.

As a person of expertise in certain areas, I feel I may be experiencing elitism, jealousy and resentment. Refer to article by Wikipedia co-founder Larry Sanger http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/12/30/142458/25

I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING AND I DON'T KNOW ALL YOUR RULES. I wish I knew more about Wikipedia style, etc. Despite my rule-abiding behavior and efforts, it is becoming a bit of a hassle. As a newcomer that has expertise and experience in research and writing, I feel insulted by the way some are treating me. Why should I continue to contribute to Wikipedia?

Hi, I'm sorry that your experience of Wikipedia so far has been slightly frustrating. Obviously, Wikipedia functions on the basis that anyone can edit the articles. Also, you can see other Wikipedians edits by looking at the "history" tab at the top of the page. I'll have a look at the Badge of Military Merit article. Finally, could I suggest you sign your posts using 4 tildes (~~~~). Thanks, Addhoc 15:02, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Looking at the Badge of Military Merit article plus talk page, I would comment that possibly there is some confusion about Husnock's involvement. My understanding is that although he is an admin, in this case he is purely editing the article and isn't attempting to act in the capacity of a moderator. Regarding stylistic concerns, could you give an example of what sort of information you're looking for. Thanks, Addhoc 15:11, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Why are you getting offended at someone marking your article for improvement? I would think that would be a good thing that they noticed your article and what needed to be fixed about it. For many articles, they just get ignored. Marking your article is not a personal attack on you! — Dark Shikari ^talk/_contribs 15:43, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I think the mistake you may be making is in thinking that the tags are a message to you, a demand that you improve your article. But of course, it isn't your article any more, it belongs to Wikipedia. So think of the tags as an invitation to the general Wikipedia community to come in and improve the article. Nobody starts out knowing all of the things expected in Wikipedia – but nobody has to work alone, either. There are lots of people to help. A crucial resource is the talk page of each article, where people can get together to discuss what is needed. But I see the community has already done some of its magic on 118th Pennsylvania "Corn Exchange" Regiment. By comparing what you wrote and what is left, you might choose to learn about how to improve your next article – or leave it to the community if it's still baffling. Nice work! Notinasnaid 20:01, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

translation

How to translate an article in English to Hindi?

how do i obtain a user name? - I'll leave a welcome note on your talk page that explains how. Addhoc 15:19, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

what is a users name? - See the User page article. Addhoc 15:19, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't want the search item's as histroy

Dear Sir, I type some words in the search window. & after that i don't want the history of theses specific words on the serch window's menu. plz tell me the specific function to diasable that facility.

plz do the needful & urgent

Warm Regards, Rakesh patil

It is your browser that does this, not Wikipedia. If you look in your browser's privacy options you will find a way to turn this off and to clear those that are already stored. If you can't find it, say what browser you use and we can be more specific. --Cherry blossom tree 15:29, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

No personnal attack

Hello,

I've been subjected to a personnal attack in page. I don't know how to use the signaling process (things like npa2), I don't understand how to use them. Could you help me please ?

Thank you TwoHorned 15:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

chances of getting pregnant by oral sex

i just want to know that is there any chances of getting pregnant by swallowing someones semen during the periods.

Please ask this question at the Reference Desk as this desk is reserved for questions about "How to use Wikipedia". --hydnjo talk 15:53, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Cladistics coding

I think i saw somewhere a while ago something about coding (like that for the math code in wikipedia) to made up taxonomic trees. So that by just typing in a code it would create an image, probably in svg format or something, that displays the tree. Does anyone know if i am going crazy or is this actually true? chris_huh 15:48, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

is cairo national or international?

is

Downloading

How do I download from the internet specifically wikipedia

See Wikipedia:Database download ☢ Ҡi∊ff⌇↯ 17:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Will_%26_Grace

The template at the top of page doesn't seem to link to any project - is there more information about this "series" somewhere? --Charlesknight 16:55, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I gather you are referring to:

This article is part of the "Gay Pride" series on Wikipedia.

There's a discussion at User talk:CyntWorkStuff#Bisexual pride flag 2 which gives some clues... Addhoc 17:24, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Double redirects - what to do

Not sure how to handle them, as I don't understand the Wikipedia instructions. I discovered this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabini_river which I think falls under the double redirect category. I click Kabini river and get that link. Mattisse(talk) 16:57, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind. I think I figured out that it was a capitalization problem. If I change the spelling to Kabini River, the redirect does not appear. Mattisse(talk) 17:02, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

If you come across a double-redirect, it helps if you fix it up - click on the little link that says "Redirected from (first redirect name)", and then edit that one so that instead of redirecting to the redirect, it redirects to the appropriate article. Confusing Manifestation 02:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Image problems

I have just posted an article about a comicbook artist. I am trying to post an image but I am having trouble. I can see the picture on my contributions and when I try to link to the uploaded picture it doesn't work and I get a broken link saying something about tagging. I have tagged it properly or at least I think I have. Here is the address to the picture. can you tell me what i did wrong please? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hellions_no_1_coverCOLOR_by_Clayton_Henry.jpg

Actually, I don't think it is properly tagged, unless the comic was issued with no writing on the cover. To qualify as a cover for fair use, the entire cover must be shown, otherwise it is a piece of art and needs an entirely different fair use claim. Bear in mind too the uses listed in the claim: to illustrate an article about the artist is not listed. That said, none of these will stop your picture appearing in an article. And I do see the picture in Clayton Henry. Notinasnaid 17:57, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

How do I message somebody?

I do not know reply or send messages to people. 2 people sent me belligerent messages accusing me of vandalism because they disagreed with my post. They said they can block my ip if I change the article. Can they do that?

I myself have contributed a great deal of time and effort to provide accurate and legible information on a page, only to be turned around and accused of intentionally falsifying or destroying it. Much of the work on this page was created through my time and effort for the sake of the users that browes it. Threats and belligerence are not appreciated. Wikipedia is for users and supported by users through our donations to keep a good encyclopedia free for everybody.

Basically what these 2 people told me was that either I stop editing the article, and let them have their way, or they will "assume" I am vandalizing, and ban my IP. I could not respond stating why I felt my information was accurate. I tried to include it in the edit, but when I edit it, somebody else reedited back the way they had it before even reading my edit. They basically say that it was edited, and took no time to check the edit. They then edited it back.

These are the 2 people that sent me those belligerent messages:

Pursey

khaosworks

Reply on your talk page (ie. click the edit button on the top of User talk:71.57.130.161), or click through their signatures to get to their own userpages, click "discussion" at the top, and respond there. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 19:30, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

If you have a dispute over the contents of a page, the place to take this up is the talk page of the article. It is very important to do this. In fact, if you make changes that are being reversed, it is essential, as you can otherwise end up with an "edit war" which is bad for Wikipedia. The contents of pages often have to be discussed, and a consensus reached. Ignoring that consensus is often called "vandalism", rightly or wrongly. If you want to contact a particular user, you can also do this by using the user's own talk page, though this is less useful for discussing just one article (they will probably refer you to the article's talk page). If a message is signed by typing ~~~~, a message includes a link to the user's talk page at the end, like this. Notinasnaid 19:35, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Lists of broken/dead/as yet uncreated/etc wikilinks

Is there a list of broken/dead/as yet uncreated/etc Wikilinks which do not have articles attached to them yet?

If not, how could a wiki user create one?

Hi, I think this is what you're looking for Wikipedia:WikiProject_Red_Link_Recovery :) Martinp23 19:48, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Genius! thats really helpful thanks a lot! Phil 21:44, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem Martinp23 21:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Question

I found a page that someone edited, that was being a bit carless. (please see bottom of page)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kenoshans

What are some of the steps in place to stop this kind of behavior, and is there a way to restore the page to a state, before this individual decided to be funny.

You can revert to a previous version. See WP:RV for details how (and remember to sign your messages). --Alex (Talk) 19:54, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

trouble with peg tube feeding

my husband has a peg tube in which i feed him. however i am now having problems with him digesting and passing the tube feed. he seems to be producing more acid than needed, therefore causing alot of residual and not much nutrients for him.

where will i find help on possible an ideal to help him digest. he takes reglan and prevacid. he is a diabetic and i think this is just another issue with the stomach not working proper.

I suggest you go to the Science Reference desk. Thanks. --Alex (Talk) 20:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Better yet, seek advice from your physician. Wikipedia isn't able or qualified to give medical advice. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 21:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Link not working

Hi, I just finished writing a page for John’s Book of Alleged Dances (a composition by John Coolidge Adams). My problem is the internal link from the John Coolidge Adams page to the new John’s Book of Alleged Dances page is still red and doesn’t connect to the new page. At the moment to only way to get to the new page is through my user page. What am I doing wrong with this? Thanks! S.dedalus 20:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

The problem was a character in the article title. In the article it was a single right quote, sometimes called a sexed quote, and in the links it was an apostrophe (') (unsexed single quote). I moved (renamed) the article to use the apostrophe, which is Wikipedia style for possessives. Should be fixed now. --MCB 20:39, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Knox

Do you think I am being anal at Seymour Knox? Look at the dab page and see that it is kind of important. Please move.

how to report a article

I found a article and i think it should be deleted where do i report it or what do i do? I think its advetising.

Go to WP:AFD and follow the instructions there. Thanks. --Alex (Talk) 21:28, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Report this

I looked at those pages of how to delete an article and it makes no sense to me so can someone report this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Its the myspace one, ive seen sites like ps3forums go down because wikipedia considered it advertising and i dont think its fair we let sites like myspace not be deleted as well. If myspace is aloud to continue then the ps3fourms one and many other ones ive seen go down fighting should be aloud to come back up as well. It isnt fair!

how i can put don't fix this in the edit page?, because every time i fix an article someone fix it again

It won't get deleted. The reason being Myspace passes WP:WEB. ps3forums must be non-notable. --Alex (Talk) 21:55, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

THAT MAKES NO SENSE. Its doing the exact same thing the other site was doing. The ps3forums one wasnt even advertising it, it was talking about people and hw they interact with the ps3 and such. They both are just talking about their sites and if one is deleted its not fair the other isnt deleted.

Put it up for deletion then, it isn't difficult. There are instructions down the page if you look. Please reconsider though because I guarantee it will not be deleted. --Alex (Talk) 22:02, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

sorry if it seems like im mad at you but im just expressing the fact that it isnt fair. I saw all those people, some were really proud of their work, and it got deleted then a site like myspace become a exception isnt right. I read that page about how to report a article and i dont get it just yet.

It's very frustrating when this happens, I empathise with you. However. Proposing for deletion an article because a putatively similar article was deleted is a violation of WP:POINT and WP:AGF. Each article must stand on its own merits. If you feel the deletion was unfair, you should take it up with the nominator, ask for an administrator's help, and/or nominate it for deletion review. Anchoress 22:06, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Often it's a question of sources. Myspace has been in international news quite frequently, it has been the subject of academic articles, and books have been written about it. That means that it's possible to write an objective academic article about it using those sources. To the best of my knowledge, none of these things has happened for ps3forums, therefore it's not possible. See WP:V for more. Ziggurat 22:11, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

That still doesnt make sense. Ps3forums has many sources, along with other places. Just because the admin dont produce books about the site doesnt mean they are not credited by other places. Plus ive never seen a myspace book. Just look at gamespot or something and see that they get credit. Also just go there see how news breaks out there and then how fast other site pick it up, its a huge site and is very credible. Its not only them what about places like teambox.com or playstation.com? They are all the same and should be treated equel.

Go and put it up for AfD then if you don't believe it is worthy of being here. --Alex (Talk) 22:30, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Would you want me to on your behalf? --Alex (Talk) 22:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Books on Myspace: [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]. Books on Ps3forums: 0. When we say sources we mean reliable sources: several objective third parties writing about the website. If you have some please let me know, and I'd oppose the deletion of the page myself. I can't find any from searching online. Ziggurat 22:57, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

The sites are by no means the same and should not be treated equally. One is famous and well-known outside of its own membership and readership, the other is much smaller, not at all reported on in any reliable source, and probably known only to its own members and (relatively) few others. The issue with the ps3forums article was (presumably) not advertising but rather non-notability. War and Peace is notable and worthy of an article, the short stories I wrote when I was six years old are not. Do you understand the distinction? -Elmer Clark 05:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Help Desk horizon

At the Help Desk: how many days prior to today do you think should remain before being archived? The reason for this question is so that the parameters for the upcoming archiving bot can set. This is not a "forever" decision but our best guess for a starting point. My own review indicates that there are virtually no responses to a question posed more than three days ago and so accordingly, I've removed (archived) all but three days prior. In a perfect world, there would be a deeper horizon that we'all could just skim through or ignore or just start from the bottom of the page and go up from there. In the real world however, the folks with less than optimal bandwidth (say, dial-up) are burdened with unnecessarily long load times and so we need to compromise between the two. Please respond at this page's talk, I've only posted here to gather more user input. --hydnjo talk 22:51, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

October 16

Possible Vandalism

The page Pennsylvania has an info bar that reports state statistics, but the governer link and the one right below that are red, and hovering over the link reveals that they are suppose to go to the "Governer of Pennlkjjlkjlkjlkjhl;kjh;k" page or something similar. I can not seem to figure out how to undo this, so any help would be apreciated. 00:33, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification, someone has already reverted that piece of vandalism. To find out how to do it next time, see Help:Reverting. --Kwekubo 01:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

New page created today nowhere to be found

Hi, I created a page "Sleep and breathing" today. Spent a considerable amount of time on it. It is nowhere to be found now.

Please help.

--Rishi Raj, MD, FCCP, DABSM 03:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Per the deletion log (here), it was deleted by User:Adam Bishop. I'd suggest you ask him about it (politely), on his talk page at User talk:Adam Bishop. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Rick.

I have posted a querry on Adam's page as suggested. I am new to Wikipedia and am still getting used to the community. Please review the response and advise if it was appropriate.

Again, I am quite disappointed that a good part of my hard day's sincere work was deleted without giving me a chance to explain myself.

Can anyone delete anything? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rishirajmd (talk • contribs)

No, only admins can delete things. His deletion is odd, as it seems to fall outside of the deletion process. You might be able to make a case for undeletion at Wikipedia:Deletion review; however, it's better to reason with Adam first before going there. The deletion policy page which I linked to might help you convince him. You will also want to see WP:OR and WP:V before pursuing the creation of further articles. Good luck. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 05:09, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

• WP:AFC has a nice wizard interface that guides you through the required pre-writing stage of an article. You don't need to use AFC itself to create the article, but it can't hurt to read the steps to see if you are following them. See also Your first article. - 131.211.210.14 11:24, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

User page ideas

I'd like to update my user page to give it a nice layout in order to present pages of interest, etc. Are there any good examples around, or perhaps even a collection of pages I could choose from (and update as necessary)? CoolGuy 04:10, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Hm... most people who've been here "awhile" tend to sink some time into their userpage, at some point or other. Try looking at userpages of the people responding to questions, here, or the pages linked at the list of administrators. Depending on what you're looking for, I'm of the opinion that User:Essjay is very intricately built; even if you don't go for the style, you can learn a lot just by seeing how the page is put together. If I remember correctly, there's a subpage at Esperanza about userpages. Good luck! Luna Santin 04:43, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Broken links

Why does this link Wikipedia_talk:Help_desk#Help_Desk_horizon not go to the specified section whereas this one Wikipedia:Help_desk#Help_Desk_horizon does? --hydnjo talk 04:35, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Hrm, they both seem to work, for me. Given that, are you sure your browser isn't loading cached versions of the pages (which might not include the relevant section)? To double-check, you can force a full reload (shift or control plus reload, in most browsers). Beyond that, I'm not sure. Luna Santin 04:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Must be a browser (Safari) problem. When I invoke the first link (with a clean browser cache), Wikipedia_talk:Help_desk#Help_Desk_horizon, I get to the page but not the section but when I invoke the second link (same conditions), Wikipedia:Help_desk#Help_Desk_horizon, from elsewhere (or from here) I get to the page and section. Strange. Oh well, I'm sure it'll be clear to me tomorrow. --hydnjo talk 05:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Creating a new page

how do i create a new page—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Billygilman39 (talk • contribs) .

Please see Wikipedia:Very Frequently Asked Questions#How do I create a new article?.--Fuhghettaboutit 05:28, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

User:Talk template to warn on company edits

Was wondering if there were user:talk templates to do the following:
1. Warn a company editing an article about itself that this is against wikipedia autobiog policy.
2. Warn a company that is creating linkspam that this is against wikipedia autobiog policy.

Grateful for replies to my user:talk. Thanks --Saganaki- 07:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, #1 isn't against policy per se -- as WP:AUTO says, it's just recommended against, but I didn't see any particularly useful talkpage template for warning about that so I'd just write a little message to them. As for #2, looking on WP:TT I'd probably choose one of the {{spam}} templates, probably. Confusing Manifestation 11:14, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

book reviews

i want to search for book reviews.how can it be done 202.61.56.101 07:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't do book reviews (they'd violate the Neutral Point of View policy). Try asking at the Reference Desk if you want information on searching for reviews outside Wikipedia. --ais523 08:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

While Wikipedia does not contain book reviews as such, there are many, many, articles on individual books, with information about the author, publisher, contents, etc. and links to further information. You might want to begin with a look at Category:Books, which is the top of a large hierarchy of subcategories. --MCB 17:39, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia logo

Hi all! Can I use Image:Wikipedia-logo.png for internal purposes? Such as creating a banner for WikiProject Indonesia. I will have to edit the logo though (but not the inner design, just some shadows). Cheers -- Imoeng 08:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Ironically, this may be the only nonfree (and non fair-use) graphic in the whole of Wikipedia. Click on the link in your post for details including ("requires permission"). Of course, it may be used under fair use terms in the same way that Wikipedia uses the logos of everyone else without permission, but in very specific contexts. Notinasnaid 08:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

So just treat it as a fair use image right? So can I "put" it inside the banner or not? :P Cheers -- Imoeng 08:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I cannot tell you whether you can legitimately treat it as fair use. What is your specific fair use justification for this case? (Bear in mind too that fair use in Wikipedia is forbidden except in articles (i.e. not in talk pages or templates). Notinasnaid 08:51, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

D'oh! So I can't use it then. I want to put the logo on the WP Indonesia project banner, and add it for our newsletters. Okay, thanks heaps for your help. Cheers -- Imoeng 08:55, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

There are actually plenty of images derived from the Wikipedia logo - Image:Admin mop.PNG (the administrator symbol) is one, as is the bureaucrat equivalent. According to the text on that page it was created with permission of the Board - so it's certainly possible to use it, you just have to get permission first. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 11:29, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

How to delete your user profile?

How do i delete my user profile?

Wanderlust Records 10:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, have a look at right to vanish. Addhoc 10:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

In case you meant it to be your userpage – you can place a {{db-userreq}} template on the user space page which you want to be deleted. Make sure that you use it only on your userspace. — Nearly Headless Nick ^{L} 10:20, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Film

I am wanting to use Wikipedia in my short film that I am making. Just typing a topic into the search option and then filming what comes up. Do I need to get permission for this?222.155.190.60 10:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

No, I expect that would be allowable under fair use. I'm not a lawyer, though, and if there's any serious money involved then you might be best off talking to one. --Cherry blossom tree 11:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Why delete one article but not the other

Why is it that the EC0PAVE article page was deleted recently without having a proper opportunity to have it discussed in the same way as Eco-cemet did? Eco-cement article page is absolutely no different to EC0PAVE and if you read carefully one can observe the lack of hostility which is how it should be, so why were they dealt with differently?? Does this mean that Wikipedia follows its own guidelines when it comes to the deletion criteria, or is this a case of bias? EC0PAVE article apparently was sitting fine for 2 weeks when 3 admins out of 500 decided to ruthlesly attack it, see this link [8]144.137.45.71 10:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

It was deleted by community consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ecopave. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 11:00, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

The community consensus was conducted between 3 hostile admins and anyway why is Eco-cement allowed to have their page or does this mean that the 3 admins had a vested interest to Eco-cement ?? Fact Finder 11:03, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

It was deleted by community consensus as spam. It doesn't matter whether you don't like the people who expressed that consensus, or what their opinions were, or why. Wikipedia does not exist to publicise your company. You can always query the deletion at Wikipedia:Deletion review - but you have little chance of success. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 11:08, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

So, what youre saying is that it is existing to publicise Eco-cement then,Fact Finder 12:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC) Excuse me,

The request for deletion began by suggesting that the company did not meet the requirements in WP:CORP. These guidelines are created to keep this process fair, so they should guide you and me in deciding which articles are to keep. Are you suggesting that (a) your company does meet these requirements after all? (b) that the other company does not meet those requirements after all? Also, another reason the article was deleted was that there was a claim of copyright on it, which also isn't allowed in Wikipedia. Notinasnaid 11:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

All I am saying is this, you cant have one rule for someone and another rule for someone else, Right!,What I know is that EC0PAVE does not want to be in Wikipedia after the way they were dealt with and also the question is about "ballance" and fairness. I believe that if eco-cement passes the Wikipedia guidelines in regards to "advertising" then so should EC0PAVE, what do you think? Fact Finder 12:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Why are you refusing to answer a simple question, Why is Eco-cement allowed to "advertise" by having an article, Fact Finder 11:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Because no-one has nominated it for deletion, that issue has never been addressed. If you don't think it should have an article then you nominate it by following the instructions at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. --Cherry blossom tree 11:15, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

This is very good advice. But be sure that any nomination is made by reference to specific Wikipedia policies, because claims of unfairness will, I can assure you, carry less weight than quoting policies. Please bear in mind your article was also deleted, according to what I read, because it claimed copyright, something that Wikipedia does not accept. Notinasnaid 11:20, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

It has in fact had an AfD, as a quick glance at the talk page shows. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eco-cement. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 11:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough. That'll teach me not to have a quick glance at the talk page before giving advice! In that case, the arguments given on that page are the reason why the article continues to exist. --Cherry blossom tree 11:28, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

But according to wikipedia's own guidelines the eco_cement article is pure self gratification (Advertising)their article appears to be publicising,Fact Finder 12:01, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

If you do not think the article is advertisng then you are welcome to improve it, or to place a notice on it - see Wikipedia:Cleanup.--Cherry blossom tree 12:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Who decided what this topic was going to be called, Oh! sorry I did since I started this article as Why delete one article but not the other" lol?? Fact Finder 12:13, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't understand you. The reasons for dleeting one article over another have been given at the links already provided--Cherry blossom tree 12:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I observe defamation and libel laws and what i know is that you cant say anyhing negative about someone or try to make anyone look bad in anyway or youre libel for damages. Eco-cement has an article in Wikipedia and is protected by free copyright! EC0PAVE does not!!, Fact Finder 12:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

We have a policy against making legal threats. Even if we didn't, not having an article on your product does not constitute libel.--Cherry blossom tree 12:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

No no no, Cherry Cherry!, I mean libel here and now, besides i wouldnt give a hoot since its not my article lol Fact Finder 12:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Where do you think you have been libeled here and now? As far as I can see the discussion has not moved beyond the article in question. --Cherry blossom tree 12:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

What I meant Cherry, was that I dont want to be part of any possible libel action from anyone so i better watch what i said thats all Fact Finder 12:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC) I noticed Cherry youve done quite a number of articles in Wikipedia, how long have you been doing this?, Fact Finder 12:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I see what you mean. I'm unsure how that's relevant, but my first edit was in August 2004. I started editing regularly about a year later. --Cherry blossom tree 12:55, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, how long before you were able to admin, Fact Finder 13:00, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not an administrator. I've been doing some "administrative" tasks (like answering questions here) for maybe 9 months or so. --Cherry blossom tree 13:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, it can get abit hecktic sometimes I bet, where about from Australia are you from Cherry? Im from Sydney Fact Finder 13:09, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not from Australia, but I'm afraid this isn't really the place for chat. There are various IRC channels you can use, though - see Wikipedia:IRC channels. --Cherry blossom tree 13:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh yes, I see now, thanks for that, Fact Finder 13:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

While we are on the subject of administrators, though, I observe that none of the three people who signed their names on the deletion discussion claim to be administrators. I don't know why you said that they are. Notinasnaid 15:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Notinasnaid, a good point this was overlooked completely what this could mean is that they had a vested interest to do what they did afterall?, Fact Finder.58.166.40.6 06:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC) Finlay,if I am the author of my words as above, then I should be able to edit my own words, Right Fact Finder 16:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

So long as your edits don't make any other editors' replies to your words seem to make no sense after the fact. User:Zoe|(talk) 18:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Confusing

Good day, I feel after browing this site for references on how to add material that the help areas are extremely confusing, there seems to be no simple guides.

Though I understand you need to obviously be careful of copyright infringement and also accuracy there simply is no basic user guides or help pages for the average user, like a step by step guide.

I have a lot of information which I would like to add to the website however I am at a loss due to this complex nature of the help pages.

Have I overlooked a step by step guide on how to addd content? All there seems to be is links to laws and regulations, which ofcourse is essential for the running of this site but nothing regarding basic guides. I found the amount of information overwhelming also Fact Finder 12:36, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I hope to hear back soon

The Tutorial and Your first article may be helpful. --ais523 12:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

FF, I also find the Help system confusing. It's bloated and circular. And I've been editing Wikipedia for at least a year. --A bit iffy 23:41, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Image upload redux

Please refer back to item 2.7 in this thread for the question, answer, and further question. Thanks.--Dumarest 12:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

for registeration

from where do i get the registration form on line,plz do attention on my request.

if possible plz send two forms for enterence exam.

(contact details removed to prevent spam)

You may have the wrong website. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. --ais523 12:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Membership

hi how could i become a member in the wiki india project?.so that i could contribute some articles on tamil and malayalam literatures.

Fernando Sudhakar

You probably want to add your name here: Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Members, though you can contribute articles without doing that. --Cherry blossom tree 13:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Copyright question

I have begun a Wikipedia article, and no-one else has yet contributed to it. Can I use the same text in an article for another publication? And if so, do I need to state that I got the text from Wikipedia? Many thanks. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 13:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes. You can use any text that you have written however you please - you own the copyright so no attribution is required. --Cherry blossom tree 13:44, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Sort of... you have, by editing, agreed to license your work under the GFDL, so you have to make your derivative work also under the GFDL and give yourself or Wikipedia attribution. -- Chris chat edits essays 14:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but you're wrong. The work is licenced under the GFDL but the author retains all the rights they had before they licenced it and so can use in any way they like (including non-free ways) and any derivative works do not have to be licenced under the GFDL. --Cherry blossom tree 14:57, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I'll echo what Cherry blossom tree has said. The original author retains copyright on the work. By contributing the material to Wikipedia, he has provided the material under a GFDL license under which GFDL-licensed derivative works may be created. However, as the original author retains his copyright, he may do whatever he pleases with the material, including creating his own derivative works under whatever license (if any) he sees fit. (Note that if any individuals have since edited the article in any substantive way, our first author would need the permission of those other authors to redistribute derivatives of their portions of the work.) TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

bugs in the index

Dear Wikipedia, There are several spots in the list of all articles where not all the columns come up, which means that the articles in those columns get cut off. The bugs that I've spotted so far are in 100, Ba, Ll, and Loose. Considering that new articles are added to Wikipedia all the time, why haven't these bugs been caught and fixed already?

Could you type the URL for us of a page in Wikipedia that shows this problem? Wikipedia is a big place, and I'm not sure where you mean. Notinasnaid 16:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=100&namespace=0 It looks like the glitch at Ba has been fixed already.

Ok, not entirely sure what you mean by "not all the columns come up". Where would I have to look to see that problem? Notinasnaid 16:44, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm guessing the issue is that with a 3-column display when there are extremely long article names (like the redirect to googol at the link the user mentions) the columns aren't all visible without horizontal scrolling. I don't know of a browser that doesn't add a scroll bar in this case, so I don't think I'd call this a bug. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

deletion

Hi,

I used this: db-userreq (with the brackets) to delete my userpage. But what i really want is to delete my account, so this user account doesnt exist anymore and subsequently removed from the google rankings.

Thanks for you help.

Wanderlust Records 17:07, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Accounts can't be deleted, but if the userpage and talkpage have gone, it's likely that Google won't pick them up after a few days (page histories aren't Google-cached). --ais523 17:09, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

If you don't want "Wanderlust Records" to be associated with your account, you could change the account name to "Deleted Account" or similar. Addhoc

Mood Ring.

Oct 16, 2006

To; Wikipedia Personnel Help Desk,

I have added a few more links to the Mood Ring Web-Page that I thought would be helpful. Would appreciate feed-back if these are OK and if I have edited correctly.

I can be E-mailed at: EMAIL REMOVED

Thank you for your time.

Signed, Dawn

Those links were removed because they were ads. Please use the preview function in the future - I count 20 separate edits, which clogs up the page history. Wooty 19:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Oct 16, 2006

To; The Individual Who Calls Theirselves- Wooty,

Thank you for timely response and I apologize for editing a little too much- it was my first time. I will try to be more careful in editing in the future. Would the Virtual Online Mood Ring really be considered an ad, when it is there more for entertainment rather than to sell something? - and I had included that as an example (through the link) of the many incarnations beyond the original invention of the Mood Ring.

Thank you again, for your time.

Signed, Dawn

The external links in an article are supposed to provide further information on the subject, and in general only the links which support the information in the article are particularly useful. I would suggest reading the policy on external links, and if you still believe the links do add to the article then it's probably best to discuss them on the article's talk page (go to the article and click the tab marked "discussion"). Confusing Manifestation 02:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Knox Roman Numerals

I don't know how much prior days are rechecked. At Seymour Knox I posted the reaalization that I am at fault for improper naming convention. Can you help? TonyTheTiger 18:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I just figured out how to use the move button on a non controversial move. TonyTheTiger 20:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Delete My Account

I would like to know how to delete my account. I was unable to place any information in it because the links don't work.

The account name is: Bpabraxton

I would like to place some information in Wikipedia but can't with links that don't work. I don't understand how everyone has been able to input information into the site. If there is a way to fix the links and keep the account name, that's fine with me.

Please respond to: Celestine Gray <email removed>

Thanks!!

Hi - I've removed your email address from this page, as it can make you a great target for spam-bots, who might crawl this page for email address, and them send all manner of rubbish to you. As for your problem, do you get a specific error/anytihng that happens when trying to edit? Martinp23 20:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

New message? Article

When I signed in, I was greeted by the amber thing that said I have a new message. But when I looked at it, I didn't see any new messages. What's the problem?

Also,my article on the hockey owner George Kennedy (sports promoter) was taken down, despite the fact I finally listed my source for the article---Deceptions and Doublecross: How the NHL Conquered Hockeyby Morey Holzman and Joseph Nieforth. Maybe you can explain why.Corey Bryant 20:24, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Talk to the admin who deleted the article:User talk:Premeditated Chaos 203.109.204.17 08:52, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

As for the "new messages" notice, it appears any time your user talk page is edited. User:Consumed Crustacean made an edit to your talk page and then reverted it, so your talk page WAS edited (hence the message notice) but the new message was removed before you saw it. -Elmer Clark 21:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Menu boxes on userpages

How can I create a menu box for my user and sub-userpages such as the one seen here? --teh tennisman ^{Speak your piece!}_{People person!FREE STUFF CLICK HERE} 20:39, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

There's some information on user subpages at WP:USER, but in a nutshell, User:Luna Santin/Userboxes is a subpage of User:Luna Santin; to transclude it onto a page, I'd add {{User:Luna Santin/Userboxes}} or just {{/Userboxes}}. Tables are at WP:TABLE -- if you have experience with HTML tables, wikitables should make sense pretty easily. Luna Santin 21:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Articles Titles

Does the entire title of an article have to be capitalized? For example: Should List of Pokémon items be List of Pokémon Items?

Tennis Dynamite 20:51, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

TD, no, not in Wikipedia - it's the "house style". See section 1.1 in Wikipedia:Naming_conventions. --A bit iffy 21:33, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Tennis Dynamite 21:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Questions

1. I'm interested in editing a page that pertains to my company. This page was set up by another user. I removed some items that I felt used some negative wording. This user then put them back in there. I need some advice please, is there somebody I can actually talk to?

2. Our company name does not appear correctly in the title of the article - do I have the right to change that?

3. What about linking this page to one I set up, can I do that?

Thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Helenwells (talk • contribs) 07:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

You have the 'right' to change what you like, but note that all changes should be sourced, and all controversial changes should be discussed on the talk page (click on 'discussion' at the top of the page in question). If you want to talk about it, that's one place to start. Another is to contact the user directly; if you look in the page history (click on 'history' at the top of the page in question) you can see who replaced the information and send them a message on their own talk page. You can move a page by clicking on 'move' at the top, but it's always a good idea to discuss this first as there may be a reason why it's at the current name.

Regarding your content dispute in this particular case, however, I'd suggest you first take a look at WP:NPOV. Wikipedia strives to present all sides, and unless you have a valid reason for removing negative information people are likely to keep adding it. This is an encyclopedia, not a tool for corporate propaganda, and you'll note that companies such as McDonald's, Starbucks, and Dow Chemical Company all have sections on criticisms. Ziggurat 21:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Second question replied on user's talk page. Confusing Manifestation 02:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Stickam

I created an article on Stickam. I created it in good faith, but it got speedy-deleted as being "blatant advertising". Is it possible to find out who deleted it so that I can communicate with them to find out why it was deleted without taking notice of the {{hangon}} tag I put on it? Unfortunately, I cannot look at the article's history because, of course, the article's been wiped! (The Talk page is still there, though, at Talk:Stickam. Thanks in advance, --A bit iffy 21:20, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Check out the deletion log. The fact that the article has been created and deleted before is probably what made Bogdangiusca quick on the trigger. You should talk with him. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 21:36, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Meni. --A bit iffy 21:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 22:23, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

A bit of a problem

How doother people like the Welcome Group welcome me and talk to me and such?

Hint taken - I've left you a welcome note. Addhoc 21:36, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Once again..how do I view it?

You can view your personal messages at User talk:King Pong, or by clicking "my talk" at the very top of each page. McMillin24 _contribs^talk 21:59, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

arthritis joint pain

What medication is suitable to relieve arthritis joint pain in a person with bi-lateral kidney disease with a 35% kidney function?71.53.8.87 22:12, 16 October 2006 (UTC) Martin

Wikipedia is not for medical advice. That being said, you might find better help elsewhere, such as the Reference Desk, as this Help Desk is specifically for questions concerning the use of Wikipedia. —Keakealani 22:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Regitration issues

I can't register.. My name is Howard H. Levine and e-mail address is <somespambestoppedhere>. What to do? Advise. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.238.101 (talk • contribs)

Exactly what has gone wrong? Did you click the "Login / Create account" link at the top and follow through with it? Did it show an error or something? -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:39, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

adding an English idiom

i wanted to add an idiom to the English idiom page but there is no opportunity to do so. how can i accomplish this?

By going to List of idioms in the English language, clicking 'edit this page' at the top of the page, and typing in your idiom, using the same format as the idioms already listed. --Kwekubo 23:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

U.K. 1939 population, census results

I would like to find out the 1939 United Kingdom population. I can not get past thw chasing my tail dilemma at your site.

I can be contacted at [spamproof]

Thank you for time, attention and patience.

William Howes

There was no 1939 census, and the 1941 one was called off because of the war; detailed statistical data is understandably hard to come by, because people were somewhat preoccupied at the time.

However, I have a 1942 source which gives an estimate for mid-1938 of 41,215,000 people in England and Wales and 4,993,000 in Scotland, and a "1937 census" figure for Northern Ireland of 1,280,000. The Channel Islands come to about 90-100,000, and the Isle of Man to a further 50,000. Shimgray | talk | 23:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

In the future, questions not related to Wikipedia itself should be asked at the reference desk. -Elmer Clark 21:35, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Backlogs

Do articles that have a cleanup tag, as well as an uncitable source tag qualify as backlog? --Imdanumber1 ( Talk | contribs) 23:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

• No, a backlog is the name given to a particular administrative page that list multiple hundreds of entries and thus needs extensive work to get cleaned up. Usually the things that were tagged the way you mentioned are easily fixed by either adding or formatting content or find sources to add. Backlogs require much, much more work. Generally, you don't want to add yet another tag to the article. By the way, uncited is not the same as uncitable. uncited is that it doesn't have sources, uncitable is that it cannot have sources. Anything that cannot have sources at all (even if the internet, books, magazines, newspapers, etc have all been searched for info) is unverifiable and not suitable to be included to begin with. Make sure you understand the difference between those two words. - - 131.211.210.14 08:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

October 17

Help Please

I am trying to get Hinduism to run for WP:FAC and I have already moved the first unsuccessfull run to Featured artilce canidates|Hinduism/archive1, but I am having a hard time setting up the new one. Please help ASCAP--Seadog.M.S 00:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Trouble categorizing request for article on NXIVM/Executive Success Program

I'd like to request an article on Keith Raniere's organization, NXIVM, formerly Executive Success Program. There are many indications that it is a cult and I'd like to know more about it.

You can request an article at Articles for Creation, or alternately you can Create an account...there are many additional benefits that an account can offer, so I would strongly suggest it. —Keakealani 03:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Entering my opinion on deleting an entry

An entry called "List of clichés in music" is marked for deletion. I would like to enter my opinion but don't know where or how.

Please advise.

JerryFlattum

The deletion notice has the following line: "Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's entry on the Articles for deletion page"; if you click on the 'this article's entry' part you'll go straight to the deletion discussion. Ziggurat 02:00, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Entering my opinion on deleting an entry

Hope this comes through. Apologies for the duplicate message. Thanx for the advice. JerryFlattum

regions

just wondering what the regions are catergorised as in the release dates for dvds. 04:07, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

This help desk is for questions about how to work on things in the Wikipedia. For factual questions outside the scope of the workings of Wikipedia, see the Reference Desk in the future. For now though, your answer should be at DVD. Dismas|^(talk) 06:29, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Search problem

I am editing a page on "Hay, New South Wales". The commonly used abbreviation for New South Wales is NSW. If I search for "hay" it goes straight to a page on hay (the stuff horses eat). If I search on "hay nsw" I get various things relating to the town Hay, but not the major page of "Hay, New South Wales" (which should be top of the list). I suspect I should be using a "re-direct", but I'm not sure. What do I do? ikeshut

The search feature isn't very good at approximate matches unless helped by humans. You're correct that a redirect would probably be useful; if you edit Hay, NSW (without the comma the page is likely to be deleted) and place

#REDIRECT [[Hay, New South Wales]]

on it, you will create a redirect that you or anyone else can use to reach the page. --ais523 07:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Type / Font conflict?

Dear Wikipedias,

I'm on a Mac / System OSX (in case it's relevant).

Every page on my setup is littered with links or italics which, due to some typograhic abberation, appear as complete gibberish - though some, if they are in blue, can be highlighted by hovering over them with a mouse, and in the highlight one can read the actual meaning of the 'gibberish' (so it wasn't Slav after all, phew!) ...

Is there any way I can get round or correct this? It's been a problem for several months at least. can't remember if my old Mac with OS 9.2.2 had the same problem - but that had issues of its own!

As ever, thank you for your sterling efforts.

Best Wishes

Jean-Luke Epstein

You may have better luck if you switch to a different skin. Here are two simple skins: Myskin (which has no special coding at all) and Simple. If either of those works you may want to go to your preferences (Special:Preferences) and change skin. Otherwise, report it at the technical village pump to bring your message to the attention of people who know more about such things. --ais523 07:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

username change

How do i go about changing my username?

Wanderlust Records 09:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Oops, sorry for not saying, the link is: WP:CHANGE. Addhoc 09:53, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

How to use a Wikimedia Commons image in Wikipedia

I am trying to enter Image:Riazor Stadium from the commons into the Riazor Stadium article, but can't figure out how.

You insert an image on Commons the same way you insert an image from Wikipedia: write [[Image:Riazor Stadium.jpg]] in the appropriate place on the page (the file extension (in this case .jpg) is important). There is explanation about more complicated formatting on Help:Image. --ais523 10:12, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Finding the root of a word

what can do with your website to find the root word for justice

If you're interested in the meanings of words and etymologies, you may find more help at Wikipedia's sister project Wiktionary; wikt:justice has a small amount of information on its etymology. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia; Wiktionary is a dictionary, and therefore more suited to dealing with words. --ais523 10:27, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

total deletion of article

Someone has totally deleted our article regarding the Diagonal Lock and has replaced it with a different item, the 2 items are not related and I cannot understand why our item has been deleted. How can we get it back on? or find out who deleted it and why?

thanks in anticipation

(email removed to prevent spam)

I can't find the article you're referring to. If you know the exact name, you can check the deletion log and enter the exact name you're looking for in the 'Title' field; this will tell you who deleted it and why. For further information, you should contact the admin who deleted it on their User Talk page. --ais523 11:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, it may be that your article was not deleted (removed) as such, but was simply edited to replace the old content with new content. In that case it will not appear in the deletion log. On the current article page, use the "history" link at the top, which will display the entire sequence of edits to the page's content, and you can go through each revision and see where your content was replaced, and why. Then you can post on the article's Talk page to discuss the issue. --MCB 17:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Subscripts and other characters

Hey! I was wondering where can I get information on writting the little subscripts and super scripts (ex. squared, cubed, or the numbers in chemical formula reactions). Thanks! Or do I just have to memorize them? --Agester 12:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

There are several methods. One is to use the box of symbols below the edit box (for instance, this: 3² was entered like that); it looks best in the edit window, but it only works for some superscripts. Another is to use <sup> and <sub> tags: for instance, 3²+a_x, which cannot stack superscripts and subscripts. Another is to use mathematical markup, such as $a_{x}^{2}$, which is fully general (and therefore has to be sent as images sometimes, like in the example shown there); avoid except for mathematical equations and when you really need to. --ais523 13:08, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Internet Explorer will not open wikipedia

When using Mozilla, wikipedia works fine, but it will not work through Internet Explorer. The word done appears in the bottom left corner, but nothing appears on the screen. 165.139.41.20 13:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)cjones

All versions of Internet Explorer are somewhat broken. Microsoft simply refuses to follow W3C standards. Wikipedia is a fairly sophisticated XHTML site; it displays okay in some versions of IE and breaks badly in others. My personal feeling is that it's a waste of time to cater to IE.

You've got Mozilla; why not use it? John Reid 14:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't think the problem is IE rendering engine. You should try to compare the connexion settings with Mozilla and IE, if you got both. You can try to delete the cache (Tools - Internet Options). Is Mozilla on the same computer than IE? -- lucasbfr ^talk 19:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Images not appearing

Please have a look at the Monkton Combe article. I put a picture on this article yesterday, but it shows a red cross in the frame and no picture. If I click on the picture, the enlarged version shows completely normally so I know the picture is on the server. CTRL-F5 makes no difference. Is there a temporary fault on WP? Thanks - Adrian Pingstone 15:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

For some reason the Commons image server isn't generating the thumbnails like it normally does. I suspect it's a temporary problem that will go away soon. You might want to try asking on the Technical Village Pump to see if the contributors there know anything about it. --ais523 15:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

(By the way, I apologise for your original message being deleted; it was a misbehaving bot which has since been blocked.) --ais523 15:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Adrian, I am seeing the proper thumbnail now, at least in my browser (Firefox on MacOS X). --MCB 17:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

The second image does not show up for me in IE6 (Windows) or Safari (Mac). This does seem to now be in discussion on the village pump (basically the URL for the image is giving an error message) Notinasnaid 18:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Both images seem fine for me (IE and Firefox on Windows). Weird... -- lucasbfr ^talk 19:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Reverting

Hello I have reverted vandalism scores of times this morning. Is this considered to be breaking the 3RR. Let me know on my talk.--Seadog.M.S 15:31, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Responded. —Centrx→talk • 15:39, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Monobook

Can a kind soul tell me how to create a monobook?--Lord of Illusions 16:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Simply add on /monobook.js after your user page name (i.e. User:Lord of Illusions/monobook.js) and you can add things frm then on. --Alex (Talk) 16:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much.--Lord of Illusions 16:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

to download wikipedia

I like to download this encyclopedia freely. If it is possible please reply me. Since it helps me more to do research in physics. And to achieve my goal. And so please help me . If so, please send me some science facts to my ID.

The information about downloading all of Wikipedia at once is at Database dump, but that probably isn't what you want. If you're clearer about what you're trying to do we may be able to give you more help than this. --ais523 16:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Model Forests - a definition

I am writing from the Canadian Forest Service to enquire how to go about putting in a definition of "Model Forests" (an Canadian concept that has been widely used internationally for over 15 years). Do I put this in as a news article, or is there another section for a definition of terms?

Thank you.

Hi, could I suggest you have a look at Sustainable forest management to see whether Model Forests should be part of this article... Addhoc 17:14, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

You have a username already, so you can just start by clicking on Model Forest and editing it. However, be careful about some things:

• Only add the entry to Wikipedia if there is something encyclopedic that can be said about the subject. For instance, a discussion of what the phrase means internationally and something about the history would be much better than just a definition. If you can't write very much on the page, write {{stub}} at the bottom to signify that the article is shorter than ideal. If you only have a definition, it may be worth mentioning in a pre-existing article instead.
• Make sure that you don't have a conflict of interest in writing the article; make sure you write neutrally. (Many users from companies and organisations end up advertising, sometimes deliberately, sometimes by mistake, and this isn't allowed.)
• If you're not sure, you can make the page as a draft at User:Model Forest/Model Forest, and then post back here to ask whether the article will be acceptable. --ais523 17:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Easily accessible election year information

When is wikipedia going to create a site listing all the candidates for election years with link to each of their own pages? I think this would allow people to more easily find information on their candidates so they can make the right decision. Also it would be nice if wikipedia could provide information on what bills candidates have proposed and votes for/against.

Thanks for reading this, Steven May

Serious warning: you should on no account base your voting decisions on what you read in Wikipedia, just as we tell students they should on no account write their homework based on what they find here. Anyway, whose election? There are elections somewhere in the world every week. Notinasnaid 20:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

You can find a list of 2006 elections here, with links to more information on many of them. The articles on the individual elections generally contain links to articles about the candidates. -Elmer Clark 21:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Converting DokuWiki to MediaWiki

Is there an app that can do this?

I cant prove data in my article

I am submiting an article which relates to a military organisation which I served with for some considerable time. However, I see to be falling foul of an inability to produce a reference point (either in a book or on the web) to verify the content. A citation is required on much of the text but I am producing the piece on my first hand.

Can you assist in my plight???

Archangel1 18:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

This is a serious problem. If the facts in an article cannot be verified, they must be removed from the article. (For example, even if Bill Gates edited the article about Microsoft, the facts have to be verifiable, for example, a newspaper report.). First hand knowledge, which cannot be verified, must not be used. The idea is that Wikipedia is a collection of references to information: not the information itself, just a summary of what the sources say. No source = no information. Take a look at Wikipedia:Verifiability to see if there is anything in there that you might be able to draw on and rescue your article. Let's hope so. Notinasnaid 20:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thumbnail doesn't show

This thumbnail I don't see

This I can see

I was browsing the page Visibility and noticed that the image Image:Fog&Sunny.png doesn't show on that page, or the page about that image, or on some of the pages that I checked that used this image. I saw this with both FireFox and IE. Other PNG images seem fine. I played with it some, and it seems that I can see the image at thumb sizes other than 380px. How can I fix that? Is there a cache of thumbnails that has a problem? BartonM 19:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC) Update: now both images above don't show. BartonM 20:00, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

How to add a language that is not on the list

Hi Wikipedia. I would like to know how to add a language that is not on the list of languages that you have, and thus, start adding contents for that language.

Thank you!

Camilo 63.148.211.78 19:32, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

First, be sure to look at the complete list - there are currently 250 Wikipedias, so it's very likely that one already exists in the language you want to contribute in. IF not, take a look at this page. -Elmer Clark 21:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

fonts

After referring to the VFAQ & FAQ (and not finding), I submit this:

Where do I find the fonts that shall make visible all textual information? At this point some special alphabets display as question marks.

Thank you.

Ittai 19:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)19:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)19:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Too many References?

I am cleaning an article and there is a lot of references for every fact. Can I safely remove the redundant one or is it better to keep everything? The article in question is Accusations of French genocide against Algerians -- lucasbfr ^talk 19:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Controvertial articles are, inevitably, those over which people will argue every point. So whereas an article about a Friends episode might only have one or two references, something like the article you mention will, ideally, have many. Even if a reference is truly redundant, folks will argue that some sources are poor, and that multiple sources corroborate disputed points. That said, every reference has to be from a quality, reliable source. One tactic some mal-users take (I'm not referring to this specific article, as I've not studied it) is to put in lots of references, but when you look at them in detail they're not all from reliable sources (but instead from fringe groups, blogs, and partisan sources). For a controvertial article I'd recommend discussing any proposed reference-cleanup on the talk page first. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 20:08, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I already started the cleanup (there is no ref balisa for example, refs are sometimes in the wrong place). I'll provide a diff on the Talk page afterwards for review. -- lucasbfr ^talk 20:13, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Wondering

Hey...i just created a page called Runescape Screenshots and i dont believe anything is wrong with that page if so please tell me and i will change it right away. But the main thing i want to ask is if i could create a page on burlington and things that go on there and if i could mention my dad's site based on burlington on it, if not im fine with it....i like your site and dont want to ruin it.

thank you!

Wikipedia is not a gallery, and it's certainly not a gallery of copyrighted images (as screenshots of games are).

As for Burlington, assuming it's a town then it would probably merit an article - most real towns etc. are considered notable. If your father's site has content on Burlington that would be of interest to readers, then you can add it as an external link. It's difficult to be more specific without knowing the nature of the article - there are quite a lot of places called Burlington, as that page shows, so I don't know what you mean - and without knowing what the website contains. You may want to read Wikipedia:Introduction and Wikipedia:Your first article to get a better idea of how to write an encyclopaedia article. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 21:19, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Adding internal links

Why does "Wikipedia:Sandbox" work as an internal link on:

"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial_%28Formatting%29/sandbox"

but it doesn't work on:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sandbox

?

If you link to the page that you're already on, it appears in bold - for example, Wikipedia:Help desk. I'm assuming that's what happened when you tried it on Wikipedia:Sandbox. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 21:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks but that's not what happened. On one page it created a hyperlink and on the other it didn't.

Give it a try.

More specifically on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial_%28Formatting%29/sandbox

I would like to link to that page with this "Tutorial Sandbox 2" as a hyperlink.

Do you have any suggestions?

130.76.64.14 22:19, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Adding Paragraphs

How do I add another paragraph or section?

For a new section in an article, just surround the title with two equals signs, like so:

== Title of section ==

For a subsection, use three ===, for a sub-sub section use four ====, etc. -Elmer Clark 22:01, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Breakdown of Ref function by Gallery

Recently the <Gallery> function breaks down the Reference output of the function <Ref>, as in articles Indo-Greek kingdom or Hasekura Tsunenaga. Basically, every reference before the Gallery is dropped, but every reference after appears. I have temporarily replaced Galleries by individual images, but it would be nice to repair this (recent, like 1 or 2 weeks) bug. 82.123.131.127 17:53, 10 October 2006 (UTC) — This was added to the talk page at Wikipedia:Inline Citation. I placed it here in the hope that someone more familar with the problem can fix it. TomStar81 (Talk) 21:55, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Signing my name

When I am editing and I type four '~'s, my name shows up, but it's not linked to my page. Are the 4 '~'s supposed to generate the brackets, User: and duplicate copies of my name, or only one copy of my name and the date and time? MathMan64 22:02, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

In "My preferences", the first tab, there is a check box "Raw signature". If it isn't checked, it provides the link automatically. If it is, it inserts exactly what you have typed in the "signature" box (plus timestamp). In your case, you have checked the box but did not write the link manually. Uncheck the box, or modify your signature as you see fit. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 22:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! It works great now. --MathMan64 23:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Welcoming Newbies

I will often welcome Anons to WIKI; usually I do such by posting Welcome with in {{ }}. I recently say a much better tool using, "Welcomeg" within {{ }}; however, there are places for inserting the Anon's handle, etc. Is there somewhere I can go to learn how best to use this tool? Thanks. Storm Rider ^(talk) 22:35, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Image Linking

Hey! I would like to link a preedited thumbnail on the page (not using the [[Image:image.png|thumb]] function but putting straight in [[Image:thumb.png|frame]]), and this thumb would link to the full picture description within the wiki.

Example: This image would be shown on the page, and if I click on it it would show this one

Thanks, --Adys 22:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

As far as I know, this isn't possible without some CSS trickery (ie. template:click). You should not use this template in the articles, as the hack breaks accessibility and doesn't work in all browsers. This functionality isn't built-in as it's just a generally accepted convention that the image you see is what you'll get when you click on it. You could always put a note in the thumbnail's page pointing to the other image if you absolutely have to. I'm not sure if that's allowed for fairuse images, though you shouldn't be modifying those anyways. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 23:01, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

No CSS trickery is needed. You could use this code, which specifies another image as a thumb: [[Image:somename.jpg|thumb=Image:someothername.jpg]]. However, as Consumed Crustacean mentions above, it's not the standard thing to do and you surely shouldn't do this with a fair-use image. NielsF 23:29, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! --Adys 23:32, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Help

== Who is the author of this site

What year was it created ==

See Wikipedia. If you're trying to cite the Wikipedia for a school project or something, see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 22:55, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Skins

How do I get a CSS skin to work? Please reply on my talk page.Drahcir^{my talk} 23:19, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

This Help Desk is for the benefit of you and others which is why you have to go to the inconvenience of checking back here for responses to your question. You are free of course to copy the responses to your own user space. --hydnjo talk 23:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)