Talk:Anthony Wayne/Archive 1

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Requested his own Court Martial?

According to a bio on his Find a Grave(validity unknown),

His command at the Battle of Brandywine, September 1777, suffered more casualties than any other American unit, Wayne requested his own court martial as a result. The Court of Inquiry unanimously found him not guilty of misconduct, and he was acquitted with the highest honor.

Are there any other sources? Is this something that should be included here (I say "yes" if can be confirmed) Samatva (talk) 15:24, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

References

Wayne's campaigns

Can anyone elaborate on the burning of Snaketown (now Florida*, Ohio) in 1794 during Wayne's march to the Fallen Timbers battle?

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Musicwriter 00:40, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Can anyone tell us why he was "Mad"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.16.24.235 (talk) 05:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Here's an article delving into that question. Not sure if there's material for the article, but it's worth a read. Canute (talk) 20:47, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

• Sheehan, Michael J. F. (6 February 2020). ""Mad Anthony": The Reality Behind the Nickname". Journal of the American Revolution.

An earlier version of this article included that information and a great deal of other historically interesting biographical material, but someone seems to have sanitized it and added the terrible and incorrect opening paragraph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.29.214.34 (talk) 06:34, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Clearly, it's time for the "sanitized material" of the pre-Revolutionary campaigns of "Mad" Anthony Wayne to be placed back in this article, because its deletion was immensely destructive to the value of this article for providing information about Gen. Wayne. If no one can locate and re-post that information, I'll have to do it.

Answering the question, Wayne was called "mad" (British English for "insane") for anticipating the use of what were then irregular infantry tactics, which among other things helped win the French and Indian Wars for Great Britain. King George III (no stranger to accusations of insanity himself because of the symptoms of his porphyria ) said after Wayne's victory on the Plains of Abraham near present-day Montreal, Quebec, Canada "I wish Wayne would bite some of my other generals... "loupgarous (talk) 11:00, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

I don't think so - he was 14 when that battle happened. Bit young to be a general. Rmhermen (talk) 12:51, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

How embarrassing. Not only not the right general, but not the right first or last name, and the anecdote even occurs in the reign of George II, not George III. You're right, the general being discussed was James Wolfe, hero of the Plains of Abraham during the French and Indian Wars in North America. Thanks for the correction, and the lesson NEVER to rely on wetware. loupgarous (talk) 20:52, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

'Mad Anthony' and Batman

'Mad Anthony' Wayne was a relation of Bruce Wayne's ancestors, not a direct ancestor.

Darius Wayne rang Gotham's church bells to alert the town of the impending arrival of the British fleet.
For this he was given a land grant, after the war, by the town elders. This became Wayne Manor.
Naturally, comic book continuity is very fluid. The above could no longer be the case. That's why
I haven't made an edit of the article itself. Someone should probably try to reconcile the two stories.Chrismrich (talk) 18:21, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

I agree, any update on this?

What of "Mad" Anthony Wayne's pre-Revolutionary experience?

Wayne earned his sobriquet as "Mad" Anthony Wayne as a British officer in the French and Indian Wars, long before there was a United States in whose army he served. Where is THAT in this article?loupgarous (talk) 10:52, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Source of Mad seems to be the end of Rev War (1781) and popularized by historians decades later still.[1][2] Rmhermen (talk) 12:56, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Although history.com disagrees (1779): [3] Rmhermen (talk) 12:58, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Now here is an interesting link[4] Rmhermen (talk) 13:00, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

As I corrected myself above, I mentioned the wrong general, wrong first and last name, and the anecdote even occurs in the reign of George II, not George III. You're right, the general being discussed was James Wolfe, hero of the Plains of Abraham during the French and Indian Wars in North America. Again, thanks for the correction, and the lesson NEVER to rely on wetware. There is, as you say, NO pre-revolutionary experience to be recorded for Anthony Wayne, and the only possible connection would be the meme of generals being named "Mad" (insert general's name) loupgarous (talk) 20:58, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Wayne family in Ireland

I removed "Category:American people of Irish descent". According to Nelson, Wayne's grandfather moved to Ireland from England, then later moved to Pennsylvania. While in Ireland, Wayne's father was born. He later moved to Pennsylvania, also. While it's true that Wayne's father was born in England, I don't think we can say Wayne was of Irish descent. As I understand it, we're not sure of the nationality of the family matriarchs. It's possible there may be some Irish heritage there, but until we have proof I think it's best if we consider Anthony Wayne of English- not Irish- descent. Canute (talk) 22:51, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

3rd Infantry

In the Death and Legacy section, there's an entire paragraph devoted to the 3rd U.S. Infantry Regiment (The Old Guard), and Wayne is only casually mentioned once. Does this info really belong in this article? Canute (talk) 14:53, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

To add to article

To add to this article: mention of Wayne's Congressional Gold Medal. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 02:00, 13 October 2022 (UTC)