Talk:Capotain
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slightly conical?
[edit]How can something be "slightly conical"? Maybe "nearly conical" or "somewhat conical" would be closer to what is meant? From the pictures, truncated cone seems a better description. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lriley47 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Sugarloaf
[edit]In the article on the Top hat, the term "sugarloaf hat" redirects to this article — but "sugarloaf hat" is nowhere mentioned here. --87.112.89.202 (talk) 20:39, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
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Capotain → ? – "Capotain(e)" appears to be a ghost word created by Walter Scott. The closest thing that can be found in early modern sources is "copataine", which occurs once in Shakespeare. The more usual terms for this kind of headwear were "copintank" and "sugarloaf hat". I suggest using one or the other as the title of the article. Zacwill (talk) 03:12, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Google Books search shows a number of reference books using "capotain" to refer to the hat style. I think the article should use the title reflected in modern sources, and mention the terms that were used at the time. Schazjmd (talk) 14:26, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- A number of terms are reflected in modern sources: copotain,[1][2] copintank,[1][2] sugarloaf,[3][4] high-crowned hat,[5] steeple-crowned hat,[6] and yes, capotain.[7] I notice that the latter underwent a massive increase in usage in the 21st century, perhaps because it was brought out of obscurity by this very article. Zacwill (talk) 15:45, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- That ngram shows the rise in capotain starting a few years before the article was written, so I don't think we can blame ourselves. But ngram comparisons do show a slight edge to sugarloaf hat.[1] Schazjmd (talk) 15:59, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- A number of terms are reflected in modern sources: copotain,[1][2] copintank,[1][2] sugarloaf,[3][4] high-crowned hat,[5] steeple-crowned hat,[6] and yes, capotain.[7] I notice that the latter underwent a massive increase in usage in the 21st century, perhaps because it was brought out of obscurity by this very article. Zacwill (talk) 15:45, 22 September 2024 (UTC)