Talk:Chard, Somerset

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Economy, Oscar Mayer, immigrants, racism - all missing from this article

This article has nothing on the economy of Chard, its largest employer Oscar Mayer, its large immigrant population (especially from Portugal) and the racial tensions and attacks that have resulted from this. It seems to me to be an important part of what makes up Chard and should added. Anyone care to comment? --Simple Bob (talk) 16:24, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've added an economy section about Oscar Mayer, but I'm having trouble finding reliable sources which discuss immigration or racism in the town.— Rod ^talk 13:53, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a mention of foreign workers at the factory to the article, using the BBC source. I couldn't find any sources about racism and discrimination against the foreign workers, but if you can find one then please add it. Cordless Larry (talk) 12:59, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What else is needed to get this article to GA?

I've been looking at the guidelines at WP:UKCITIES and would be interested in what other editors think is need to get this article to meet the Wikipedia:Good article criteria? Obviously we need to reference (or remove) the uncited claims, but is there anything else which would be required?— Rod ^talk 15:46, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The references could do with some work. There's a mixture of date formats, some titles aren't in italics where they should be, and so on. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - I've found some errors but if you can see any others please say.— Rod ^talk 15:29, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, here we go. I'll jot queries below. Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:34, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~A 1663 will by Richard Harvey of Exeter established Almshouses known as Harvey's Hospital.~~ ~~- plural --> singular?~~

I think the plural almshouses is correct as they were individual dwellings for the poor/distressed, when combined into one "hospital" (different meaning to current hospital) they became a single institution. The ref from English Heritage says "Harvey's Hospital (Almshouses)", therefore I think the current construction is correct.

gorse, bracken or broom. - I'd link these.

Done

It is also part of the Yeovil county constituency .... - shouldn't start a paragraph with an 'It' - is 'Chard' due to go here?

Done

~~...and support study of palaeontology in Britain~~ ~~- I don't get this bit~~

I've changed this to "making it a key locality for the study of palaeontology in Britain" which comes directly from ref 22

~~Any indication of the geological age of the chalk beds?~~

I've added "which was laid down in the Middle Cenomanian era between 99.6 ± 0.9 MA and 93.5 ± 0.8 MA (million years ago)". Imprecise I know but wp doesn't have an article for the Turrilites acutus Zone which might define it more closely.

~~The town's public transport links to Taunton are now provided by First Somerset & Avon (bus route 30)[34] and Stagecoach Southwest (bus route 99).~~ ~~- some indication of frequency might be good. Are they hourly? weekly? Also serves to buff the single sentence para that doesn't neatly fit anywhere else.~~

I've added that both services are hourly during weekdays.

~~The Church of St Mary the Virgin dates...~~ ~~- be good to mention denomination~~

Anglican added

Otherwise looks pretty good to go..Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments, and your edits which have helped to improve the article. I hope the issues raised above have all been addressed?— Rod ^talk 09:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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i.e. Good to Go. Casliber (talk · contribs)

School building in Fore Street

The bit about the old school is both plagiarized from the source and obviously wrong -- although it is difficult to tell exactly how.

The on-line source is specifically saying: "rainwater head dated 1583." This does not necessarily mean that the entire building is dated to that year (with my limited knowledge of English architectural history, I would say that it could well be from about that time, but I guess that it could also be a few decades younger). It then goes on to say: "Built as a private residence for William Symes of Poundsford in Somerset. In 1671 he conveyed the property to 12 trustees so that it should be converted into a grammar school with residence for the master."

It is difficult to imagine that the same William Symes both had the house built in 1583 and still was active in 1671. Something is either missing/unclear or wrong in the source, the Images of England website, but it has rather carelessly been copied into the article, compounding the unclarity through the minimal changes made to the wording. Images of England cites N. Pevsner, Buildings of England: South Somerset, p. 118 (the full subtitle of the volume seems to be South and West Somerset). Someone with access to Pevsner should check what he actually says about the school. --Hegvald (talk) 09:46, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mayor's conviction

The mention of the mayor's conviction for sexual discrimination and victimisation against a town employee and the Mayor's subsequent banning from office has been removed several times [1]. The justification removing it was "Governance" (somewhat misleading) once and "Conviction spent" twice. Thoughts? Meters (talk) 04:27, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My take on this is that this is worth covering. A sitting Mayor in a "sex discrimination and victimisation" case against a town employee. The mayor resigned, town and mayor had to pay compensation to the employee, and the employee left the town's employ. I note that the cited source does not confirm the claim that the mayor was banned from running for office for nine months. Meters (talk) 04:41, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Prior returned to council in 2010 and was in the news again in 2012 when he called the council "incompetent, crooked, and corrupt to the core." http://www.yeovilexpress.co.uk/news/9687374.Former_Mayor_brands_Chard_Town_Council__crooked_to_the_core_/?ref=rss Meters (talk) 04:47, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Found a ref for the nine-month ban ~~http://www.somersetlive.co.uk/shamed-ex-mayor-returns-council/story-12289369-detail/story.html~~ [better ref] http://www.thisisthewestcountry.co.uk/news/8251100.Tony_Prior_is_back_on_Chard_Town_Council/. I'll add it, and mention of his return to council. Meters (talk) 04:49, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I also think this is a significant event in the towns history and therefore should be included in the article. Thanks for finding better refs.— Rod ^talk 08:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Petter puzzle

< Percy and Ernist Petter, who formed Westland Aircraft Works, witnessed some of Stringfellow's demonstrations in Chard and often asked for help in the formation of Westland's first aircraft development factory on the outskirts of Yeovil. >

Yes but no but, Stringfellow had died years before: so who was it from whom the Petters 'asked for help'? 2A00:23C7:D29D:4E01:6838:C2A3:2023:DAD9 (talk) 16:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]