Talk:Christine Nesbitt

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Christine Nesbitt

(I've moved your concerns here, Also please see Ownership issues. Creating a page and editing it for 4 years is not an excuse for creating an article with zero inline citations. As I mention in my reply this entire article is suitable for deletion. As well please sign all of your posts with four (~~~~))Krazytea (talk) 05:51, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted one of your many edits of Christine Nesbitt's wikipedia page. You make your changes with no consultation and then suggest that anyone with concerns raise them in the discussion section.

Why do you think you can make the changes without raising concerns first? There are at least two people, myself included, who have been monitoring, updating and building this page since I created it four years ago. Maintaining a World Cup medal tally is not cluttering up the page as you claim, and it is also providing valuable information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Djn81 (talk • contribs) 04:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Here's what I posted in a discussion page elsewhere. Please see other WP:GA rate BLPs such as Apolo Anton Ohno, Dwain Chambers, Tyson Gay. The results section if added should be reserved for essential honours only as it is with Chambers, and Gay. In the case of Ohno if we were to add World Cup victories you would have a list of near 50 victories that would rival the length of the article itself. Please see WikiProject Olympics GA articles on how to properly enter a wikipedia page. You've spent two years creating a terrible article. As Ohno is also a speed skater (albeit in long-track), this is an excellent barometer on how to enter a Speed Skater Wikipedia page.

When it comes to the medal record it should be reserved for essential and important medal records and according to their distinction.

1. Olympics

2. World Championships

3. Other (if any)

4. World Junior (or international junior level competition)

As far as the article please see Good article criteria this article only meets 2 out of the 6 requirements in that it is broad and stable. It doesn't have many pictures (which isn't important and you've done well to get the one there), it's not very neutral, is not terribly well written, but more importantly it lacks any inline citations. If the second phase on the BLPs passes this entire article is suitable for deletion within 7 days. Please see BLPs Phase II The inline citations are terribly important here and need to be improved drastically. Finally there are far too many external links here, the links should be reserved for any links to Nesbitt's team profiles, ISU profiles, personal websites, and again only priority sites. Linking every image and every YouTube video available is non-essential this is not a fan site, this is an encyclopedia and thus this article should follow all BLP criteria and base it on GA ratings. Again this article is suitable for deletion

Krazytea (talk) 22:23, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When I first saw this page, I immediately thought that it looked not unlike a vanity page, or at least something you would see in a "career highlights" page at a personal or promotional website. Now, to be clear, I don't think it's a vanity page, it's just very detailed on the results, perhaps unnecessarily so, and has no sources. It also tends to be somewhat POV. -- Scorpion ⁰⁴²² 22:55, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Observations on the new presentation

Well, now that this page has been subjected to one person's interpretation of wikipedia's guidelines, this entry is entirely unreadable as opposed to its original format which allowed the reader to quickly reference the three major speed skating competitions (world cups, world championships, olympics) without wading through a poorly organized, poorly presented "history". It seems we've replaced the concept of an encyclopedia entry with that of a miserable high school history paper.

Yet, somehow links to videos of races (which might interest users given their historical significance, no?) and detailed summaries of racing results are eliminated. Length in unreadable prose is approved, yet length for detailed results and links to videos is not. I wonder how that seems to accomplish the goal of informing readers, of becoming an easily readable, highly informative encyclopedia entry. Quite the opposite of vanity, a word "Scorpion" is clearly having trouble grasping.

Yes, I spent two years creating a "terrible article" which no one complained about until it was replaced within days of Nesbitt's gold medal by a self-appointed editor with an even shittier one; stylistically and in regards to information. Congratulations on following the wikipedia guidelines, "Krazytea." You're another fine example of independent thought and creativity in action.

What a bloody mess!--Doug Nesbitt (talk) 16:19, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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