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New Shows

Our family loves the show Deadliest Catch!!!!!!! And we have been praying for Phil.....Would love to know how he is?? And the boys,,,,see if their still hanging in ?? Everyone misses the show,,,,,where are you guys,,,we miss the different ports and people. Our son is 8 he adores yall's shows,,he keeps asking mom ,dad where is the Fishing boat movies,you know the one where I (Kyle 8) eat the crabs they catch,,,I just looked and was amazed.Your his crazy guys from tv. Enjoying the jokes played one one another,seeing who will loose their cool first,,lol Will the show ever return?

Fans:The Frencl Family, Mark(dad),Cheri(mom),Dakota Lynn,Kyle,&Hannah & Winnie beagle(puppy) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.194.133.66 (talk) 03:47, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There will be a fifth season. You can follow the show's blog at http://blogs.discovery.com/deadliest_catch/. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 17:49, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why no anti-slip?

I don't usually watch this, but I find it remarkable to see some bozo captain laughing while his guy is sliding all over deck between a winch in operation and the edge of the boat. Can't they put down some kind of anti-slip strips on the deck like people put in bathtubs? Wnt (talk) 17:26, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am simply guessing, but as a veteran of some getoffs from motorbikes over the years, it hurts a lot less to slide than BOUNCE. If it were practical to use an effective antislip, you might find that the men and equipment would be more likely to tumble end over end, as opposed to sliding. In a 40 foot sea, you would probably find that anti slip decking would not be anywhere nearly horizontal for half the time...

I also just read about Captain Phil. Sad news indeed, and my heart goes out to the boys, and his family. I suppose the only consolation is that he dropped doing what he does...crabbing82.6.1.85 (talk) 17:51, 10 February 2010 (UTC)Lance Tyrell[reply]

Rationale for material I have added

The material that was removed is citeable from the TV series itself. I am endeavoring to waste time to find the episodes in question. 68.146.81.123 (talk) 12:27, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here are my specific issues with some of your edits:

Suggesting that Phil Harris wouldn't have been allowed to fall asleep if a cameraman was in the wheelhouse is speculation, IMO.
The additional paragraph on interactions between the camera crew and the fishing crew seemed to be commentary, again IMO. That whole section could probably be tightened up.
I question in the current season whether Phil Harris can really be considered captain for a boat that never leaves the dock.

Again, this was my impression of the edits and why I reverted them believing them to be commentary and speculation. This is a community effort and I have no desires to start an edit war over it. If the consensus is that I was in correct in my reverts, so be it. --TreyGeek (talk) 14:20, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The automated camera stuff and film crew leading to conflicts are indeed stated like speculations. But the rest looks fine.Kxx (talk) 05:38, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Coffee

Phil Harris was selling coffee under the brand name "Deadliest Brew" from June 2008 or so until recently? Blends included "Deck Hand," "The Greenhorn," and "In the Trough." I cannot find the website, but I know our local grocery store carried the coffee for a while. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Memmyjr (talk • contribs) 04:35, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bank Robber?

I came across this link:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100101/D9CULG300.html

It's about greenhorn Josh Warner.

Here is it cut 'n' pasted:

Police: Bank rob suspect was on 'Deadliest Catch'

Dec 31, 9:03 PM (ET)

<< Copy/paste of article has been redacted as an unnecessary copyright infringment. Visit the link above for the story. — Huntster (t @ c) 06:50, 4 January 2010 (UTC) >>[reply]

It's up to whomever who wants to add this into the article or not. Coffee5binky (talk) 02:49, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it's notable. I added it to the "Criticism and controversy" section, under the "Reception and achievements" slot. If one thinks otherwise, please discuss before reverting edit. I'm sure I can round up more sources if I must, but I think I've provided the necassary sources to show it's factual and notable. Thank you. Geeky Randy (talk) 03:10, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neither incident is related to the show itself; each involves the cast members not the show. Also, the references cited make no criticism of the show related to these people. The first makes no mention of the show; the second simply states the person involved was on the show. Placing these incidents under a "criticism" section is misleading. --TreyGeek (talk) 03:59, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly TreyGeek, that's pretty much what I stated in my original edit summary. Geeky Randy, you'll need to show that the series has been itself criticised or negatively impacted if such information is to go into the article. As it stands, there is no place for this information here. Just because something is factual or notable doesn't mean it *must* be included in an article. Seriously, some discretion must be used to determine if the data actually *adds* to the article, or if it is just trivial information only tangentially related to the series (as this is). — Huntster (t @ c) 06:47, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So instead of revising it to meet the necassary standards, you just omit it? One of the articles was in the Associated Press, therefore people will come here seeking a link to that. Perhaps TreyGeek makes an excellent point in saying that criticism is misleading, and therefore it should be revised and put into a more appropriate section. So, where do we put it? Or, as you stated User talk:Huntster there is no place for the information here, how does one go about making the information appropriate for inclusion in the article? Certainly the information can be adjusted to meet the article's standards and I'm happy to take on the assignment if we can come to an understanding. Thank you. Geeky Randy (talk) 21:06, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In order for the information to be added to the article you would have to show that the information is relevant to the show. How does one of the cast members being accused of bank robbery become relevant to the "Deadliest Catch," the show? How does one of the cast members being accused of animal abuse become relevant to the "Deadliest Catch," the show? Remember that this article is about the television show/series. Biographical information about the cast of the show would belong in a separate article about that person (assuming that person is WP:notable enough to have an article). --TreyGeek (talk) 23:49, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I would go further and state that neither of these individuals are notable enough to warrant an article here...Deadliest Catch certainly hasn't made them notable, and given the large number of people who are charged with crimes in the U.S., that doesn't immediately grant notability either. Randy, as an aside, I hope you don't see this as some effort to suppress this information. The big problem that Wikipedia continues to suffer is an over-abundance of trivia and tangential information, exactly like this, which makes it significantly harder for "non-expert" readers (as opposed to we editors who might be more capable of distinguishing such info) to actually get useful information out of the articles here. — Huntster (t @ c) 00:12, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Recently died" tag?

Since there is no individual article on Phil Harris, would it be appropriate to place the "Person who has recently died" tag on this article? Also, we need to be careful about our facts. I just corrected an error in the footnote that said Harris died due to complications related to the health issue he had during Season 4, when in fact it was due to the stroke he suffered in late January of this year, per news reports. Having said all this, given that the main fishermen have been now starring in an internationally broadcast series and have developed fanbases, I think it's time to consider individual biographical articles. Sig has one, so I don't see a reason why Phil Harris couldn't have his own, too. 68.146.81.123 (talk) 13:50, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would say no. That tag would be more for a persons biographical article. I have added a 'red' link to Phil Harris (Captain) as there is already a Phil Harris who is a musician. Can't comment on his notability. If you collect material and write it up you can request for an article to be created and then you just have to paste in your text. —220.101.28.25 (talk) 14:56, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

An article has been created, so this is moot now. 68.146.81.123 (talk) 01:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Filming Phil Harris after stroke

The new CNN/People article on Harris indicates that he gave permission to be filmed after his stroke (I added this to the article, with source). Beyond that we shouldn't make any predictions as to what, if any, footage will be included in the show (presumably they will address it). 68.146.81.123 (talk) 01:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I still don't believe details should be included in this article, especially now that he has his own. At the risk of sounding callous, it feels too much like trivia, considering we don't typically add such details of production. This article should focus on broader aspects of the show. — Huntster (t @ c) 02:12, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree and I removed it. For now, I think the article should stick to just the seasons shown, because we have no idea how the producers will handle the situation. This article is about the series as seen on TV, so should stick to just items seen on the show so far. That's why I have removed mention of Derek Ray taking over for Phil. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 02:22, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You know, if the list of episodes article had general season descriptions, it might be a good place to mention this, but unless all the seasons were developed thusly, such a description shouldn't be added to *just* season 6. — Huntster (t @ c) 02:57, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Series logo

I notice the logo has been deleted as having no rationale. Since no warning was given on this talk page, as normally happens so edits have a heads up, I'm going to restore the image and add a rationale. Any other admin who disagrees is fully welcome to redelete if they so choose. — Huntster (t @ c) 03:07, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vessel Appearances in Other Media

Was just watching a special "top 25 moments" episode of Man vs. Wild, and just realized that the fishing vessel the host leaps onto off of an iceberg is the F/V Alaskan Leader, the same vessel seen in season 6 of Deadliest Catch requesting Coast Guard assistance when one of her crew suffers a heart attack. Orca1 9904 (talk) 21:54, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, but only tangentially related, so I don't see any reason to mention it in the article. Remember, the article is about the TV show, not about the vessels. — Huntster (t @ c) 00:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I know, that is why I posted this information on the talk page instead of in the article itself. Orca1 9904 (talk) 04:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Right, was just an FYI in case you were seeing if it should have been added to the article. — Huntster (t @ c) 05:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Angling personalities" template relevant to this article?

I respectfully submit that it isn't, at least the upper section listing a variety of names of individuals associated with angling, commonly known as the practice of catching fish or sea life with a hook and line; I'm hard pressed to remember one instance in which any of those names were even mentioned in the show itself. The show's inclusion on the lower part of the template frame almost seems an aside when the other shows (which deal with "soft" fishery for sport or subsistence) seem so incongruous to the show's content; it's more documentary than instructional-program. If that template is to be retained, might I suggest possibly considering adding the two lobster programs ("Lobstermen: Jeopardy at Sea" and "Lobster Wars") to it as well? --Guillaume 69.174.146.134 (talk) 16:50, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. I've sectioned the template. --Epipelagic (talk) 19:42, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1990?

Alaskan Monarch Ran aground at St. Paul Island due to ice in 1990. - what does an event from 1990 have to do with the series, especially since the boat in question was destroyed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.8.52.115 (talk) 00:08, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't recall exactly why it was shown, but I imagine it was to shown to illustrate the dangers of either fishing or a storm. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 02:28, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Theme on DVD Release

I'm re-watching the show on Netflix, and noticed that the openning theme is just a generic instrumental instead of Bon Jovi's song. Anybody know why this was done? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frohike14 (talk • contribs) 18:09, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Recruiting/casting greenhorns

Do show producers influence the recruiting of greenhorns? So many of them had never even set foot on a boat. Seems daft to take on such people for the job, but it does make for better TV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.76.119 (talk) 17:51, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Format: Phrasing?

Is it just me, or does the Format section read a bit like an advertisement for the show? Some of the phrasing in it seems more appropriate for someone trying to sell the show than write an objective article on it. Just thought I'd solicit opinions before making any edits. NotGaryStu (talk) 16:01, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Error: Crosslink

I noticed an odd error - in the text of the article, reference 8 (USCGC Acushnet), (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadliest_Catch#ref_8) - is shown as reference 9 - at the bottom of the section, it's properly shown as ^8. What's going on here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.41.58.130 (talk) 17:45, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was a reference labeling issue. I fixed it, though there is still some quirks due to repeated reference IDs. Thanks for pointing it out. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 23:53, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When did filming start?

I couldn't find from the article when the filming for the series began (for which crab-fishing season/year/month). Did I miss it or is this an omission? LookingGlass (talk) 19:43, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've been watching season 5 and I've noticed that the Trailblazer is not included.

The page section which includes fishing vessels with camera crews states that the Trailblazer is included in season 5. I have watched almost all of season 5 and I have not seen any scenes including the vessel. Could somebody please give me more information? Otherwise the page section contains false information about the Trailblazer. Thanks. 124.180.239.15 (talk) 03:55, 20 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Accolades?

I found some more accolades I could add to the awards section. Would a table summarizing all nominations and wins be useful? It seems there is quite a long list of just Primetime Emmy Awards (51 nominations with 16 wins already). Should a new page be created to show all accolades found? CYAce01 (talk) 22:43, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have created a draft for Deadliest Catch's accolades. It can be found @ Draft:Deadliest Catch accolades. Since it is a long list of respectable nominations and wins, I believe the page/article would be a great addition to Deadliest Catch. Please review the draft. CYAce01 (talk) 19:16, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Crew lists

Would it be appropriate to add a section listing the crew members for each ship? Or would it better fit the ship's individual pages? Corey N (talk) 07:17, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirecting all FVs to this page

There are a lot of fishing vessel articles that do not meet the Wikipedia general notability guideline that would be better suited as redirects to this article. Rather than taking all of them to AfD, I was planning on being WP:BOLD and redirecting them all to Deadliest_Catch#Current_fishing_vessels or Deadliest_Catch#Former_fishing_vessels as appropriate, but felt that consensus through discussion should be established first to avoid headaches later. The pages in question are as follows:

Thank you for your consideration. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 15:43, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's been two weeks and seeing as there's been no objections, I'll redirect all these to the appropriate section. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:54, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Slight-Oppose: Qwaiiplayer I'm not too sure I can agree with some of these as the FV Cornelia Marie, FV Northwestern, FV Time Bandit, FV Wizard are four vessels that have been main stays on the show for years, but when it comes to notability, the FV Northwestern seems to fit that category as the boat also appears in other media, i.e. Cars 2. The others, I can understand, while I hate to see the articles deleted, but I think the FV Northwestern needs to stay and be further developed as it is the only boat that has been in all 17 seasons. Neovu79 (talk) 01:48, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Neovu79: If you feel that the article can be improved to meet notability standards, then I'd welcome a WP:BRD to try and improve it. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 02:00, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Qwaiiplayer: I can agree with that. What do you think the article is missing in order to meet your criteria for notability? Neovu79 (talk) 02:05, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Neovu79: It needs to meet the general notability guideline, which means significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. If you can find 2-3 reliable sources that are independent (i.e. not from Northwestern Brothers Marketing) that provide more than just a passing mention of the ship then it should be enough to meet the notability standard. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 02:14, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Qwaiiplayer: I added a few third party citations. Hopefully it will be enough until I am able to find more time to do a complete research of the boat's history. Neovu79 (talk) 02:26, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Were you ever able to find more information for the page? Brotherbenz (talk) 13:39, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is citation 8 "Alaska's Crab Fishery: Big Money Days are Gone" by Amy Carrol real?

I can't find the original article for this citation, and it seems to be an article written in Dec 2005 about events in 2006. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:282:1200:108:11E9:F445:60A2:C73B (talk) 00:46, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Robot narrator

Ok what is up with the narrator on the season finale in 2023? I will have to stop watching if they don’t stop this. Can’t stand it….! 45.46.158.157 (talk) 00:48, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]