Talk:Dogecoin/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2021

Change "reaching a market capitalization of US $5,382,875,000 on January 28, 2021" to "reaching a market capitalization of US $48,136,789,142 on April 16, 2021" 108.31.23.122 (talk) 14:56, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:02, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2021

It would be nice if you added that dodge coin used to have a limit cap of 100 billion shares, but the founder removed the cap in 2014 and keep adding shares to dodge coin. When asked about putting a new cap on it Patrick lodder stated "We, the developers, are not the Fed, we are not the [European Central Bank]; we do not meddle with any issuance. We are apolitical and we maintain an asset that has clearly advertised properties. One of those is a block subsidy of 10,000 DOGE per block. It is there because we, and those before us, believe that this is necessary for the security of the coin. If anyone promoted something different than what the coin actually does, or has been promising certain price points based on flawed mathematics, then these people should in my opinion be prosecuted where possible, and definitely not be granted a way out by our meddling with issuance." You can find this info on marketrealist.com and other sights. But it not having a cap limit is very important information for investors for it makes it so it realistically can't reach as high as bitcoin or other bigger crypto unless they add a cap limit to it. Many investors not knowing there is no cap limit are claiming "to the moon" with dodge coin but it can't skyrocket like they want until the founders stop adding shares to dilute the value of the current shares. (If more people knew about this, maybe enough asking could eventually get the founders to add a cap limit, but idk) thanks 172.58.38.134 (talk) 16:15, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:41, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Elon Musk

There should be disclaimer following paragraph that article shouldn't be take as investment advise (people do whatever he say) 139.138.6.121 (talk) 12:32, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2021

Change “like all currencies” to “crypto currencies” or “unregulated currencies.” Fiat currencies do have a supply limit and are regulated. Perhaps read your own website! 👍 2603:8000:9703:F92C:95ED:36F3:8A4F:1F64 (talk) 12:17, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

I don't see that phrase in the article. Could you be more specific? – Thjarkur (talk) 12:36, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2021

Change the sentence: "Dogecoin started its initial coin production schedule with 100 billion coins in circulation." To instead read: "Dogegoin started with a supply limit of 100 [{billion}] coins."

The current sentence can be interpreted as there were 100 billion in circulation at the start or the coin. This was not the case, but there was a cap saying that no more then 100 billion coins could be created. Hence the change. On https://messari.io/asset/dogecoin/profile, which is a reputable site you can find the sentence "Palmer originally capped the DOGE token supply at 100 billion DOGE." Andreas.deBlanche (talk) 20:10, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Your account is over the 4 day limit for being autoconfirmed, and you have 6 edits currently (May 7 2021). You only need to make 4 more edits and then you are allowed to edit the information without a request. GameTriangle (chat!) 01:10, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Started as a Joke

I think it's important to note in the introduction that this cryptocurrency was started as a joke. There's even a citation in this article to it (number 24). To say the creators decided "to create a payment system that is free from traditional banking fees" is a pure lie meant to hype the price. 77.124.17.6 (talk) 08:57, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2021

Please add that elon musk asked on twitter if we want tesla to accept dogecoin and in future tesla may accept dogecoin. 2405:201:A800:A138:84D2:C486:9D6C:578F (talk) 17:44, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Wikipedia does not predict the future. Musk posing a question on Twitter does not mean much of anything. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 18:04, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Reference to Dogecoin starting as a joke is important

Someone else has also suggested this edit, but I want to support it. In 3 different references in the 'references' section of this entry, it mentions that Dogecoin was started as a joke. I would question the "neutral" perspective of this article if that important fact is not included. This article sounds a bit too much like a sales-pitch for Dogecoin. It doesn't touch at all on the very widely publicized controversies over the lack of true value and other negative aspects of this crypto currency. Ramulose (talk) 15:16, 9 May 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramulose (talk • contribs) 15:04, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Please provide the exact sourced prose you'd like to add, and where you'd like it added. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:20, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Critical items that need to be added to this article

This is not a "change x to y" request. This is a request for a new section to be added. How is that done?

Because people invest in this coin, this article is dangerous as it now exists. It is misleading and erroneous due to critical pieces of information being left out. I don't have rights to edit the main page, but would be more than happy to add this section to the article with more detail and all of the necessary references.

Dogecoin risks and controversies

I have added the ones below which were not already present in the criticisms section. Please feel free to make further edits to it, especially the author below who made the suggested criticisms.

1. The Dogecoin blockchain codebase was long ago abandoned and there is no governing community recommending updates and improvements. Only recently has development been picked up again with the increase in price. There is still no centralized team of developers maintaining it and the current work being done may or may not continue after the price drops.

2. Because it is inflationary, it cannot be a store-of-value. (Dogecoin mints over $4000US per second, with an infinite supply available)

3. The Dogecoin blockchain can only process 40 transactions per-second making it incapable of becoming a transactional currency on any useful scale. if every American starts using Doge the network would be able to do 1 transfer per 1 person in 95 days or 3 months. For a comparison, the Visa platform can process 65,000 transactions per second.

4. Over 65% of all Dogecoin is distributed among just 98 wallets across the world with the largest wallet holding 28% of all Dogecoin. 5 wallets control 40% of the coin's supply, so approximately 100 people control almost the entire $46 billion Doge market.

5. Doge has been identified as an extremely risky pump-and-dump investment by many top analysts.

Ramulose (talk) 17:28, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

References

 Not done for now: You can request that a section be added, you just need to write the section as you'd like it to be placed into the article, and say where you'd like it added. The information below could be included, but it needs to be written into prose, rather than a numbered list. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:34, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2021

Request to remove the "criticism" section added by User Ng.j, which is by definition, biased and undermines the neutral point of view in order to demote Dogecoin. The focus is to attempt to delegitimize this cryptocurrency and leads me to believe that Nj. has vested financial conflict of interest with other coins who have not performed as well. MazRx (talk) 17:48, 13 May 2021 (UTC) MazRx

•  Not done: It may be better to integrate the criticisms into sections of the article, rather than lump then together, but we cannot just ignore criticisms of the cryptocurrency. To present an article that only included positive information would be a violation of WP:NPOV. —C.Fred (talk) 20:21, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 May 2021

Request to add the following section which is a landmark event and deserves its own heading. Accepting comments and critique. MazRx (talk) 17:48, 13 May 2021 (UTC) MazRx

==DOGE-1 Moon Mission==

On May 9th, 2021 the Geometric Energy Corporation announced the DOGE-1 Mission to the Moon. This marked the first-ever commercial lunar payload in history paid entirely with Dogecoin. In addition, it was chosen as the unit of account for all lunar business between Space Exploration Technologies Corp. (SpaceX) and Geometric Energy Corporation. This set a precedent for future missions to both the Moon and Mars.[47] Furthermore, the mission sought to demonstrate the application of cryptocurrency beyond Earth orbit and set the foundation for interplanetary commerce.

References

• Question. Is there any coverage of this any independent news sources, rather than a press release? —C.Fred (talk) 20:22, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

There is already a paragraph that covers the core points in a neutral manner. Care has been taken to avoid sensationalism, and is not taken verbatim from a press release. There are also six references from various sources (including the press release), but none of the news sources assert the notability that support this being a major heading. Instead there are other news articles calling the mission a joke or publicity stunt but have not yet been included. Ng.j (talk) 20:41, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing these items to our attention, I welcome candid discussion. To answer your question, "is there any coverage of this any independent news sources, rather than a press release?" The answer is yes.

Please see press-release link here from CNBC: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/09/spacex-accepts-dogecoin-payment-for-doge-1-mission-to-the-moon.html.

I believe the landmark event deserves its own heading, we should replace the existing commentary on the landmark event and put it in its own heading.

Secondly, as you can see, user Ng.j has continually added bias (like his/her) "criticism section" in attempt to devalue the payment system and inject bias. The payment system started initially as a joke, everyone knows that, user Ng.j has mentioned that about 6 times using provocative language, again creating an attempt to bash the payment system rather than provide simple, yet neutral information. I would like to motion to remove that section as well or incorporate throughout the page (as you've suggested) in a balanced way - I welcome any comments/critique.

Edit request: Consistency in dollar values

In the sub-section History please change "$.711" to "$0.711" and "$.470" to "$0.470". This is for consistency and ease of reading. Searching for "$." will take you right to them. 74.205.219.207 (talk) 20:26, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

DONE Ng.j (talk) 21:32, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Edit Request for Introduction

"It is considered both, the 1st "Meme coin", and more specifically, the 1st "dog coin"." --- The first comma should be removed. There is also a lot of redundency in the intro. 213.8.65.165 (talk) 15:28, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

 Done You are grammatically correct. The introduction needs a lot of work - I am considering beginning a rewrite in my sandbox. Levineuwirth (talk) 18:46, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

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Edit request for Criticism

Please change "Exactly" to "Approximately." It currently says "Dogecoin has instead a deliberately stable, "deterministic inflation" rate of 10,000 Dogecoin per block, with a block time of one minute. Exactly five billion new Dogecoin will be created and enter circulation every year." This is self-conflicting. 1440 minutes per day * 365 days per year * 10000 coins = 5.3 billion. The cited article says "approximately up to" not "Exactly five billion". Hitsthings (talk) 02:31, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

History doesn't mention admission that BillyM2K just copied and pasted from a Devcoin Project wiki tutorial to create Dogecoin code and software orignals.

https://twitter.com/murstrato/status/1490084863822766091?s=20&t=HVHDCl-Q3gTua09AGQr-Vg

proof of tweets in screenshots:

https://twitter.com/BillyM2k/status/1370628993238462465?s=20&t=HVHDCl-Q3gTua09AGQr-Vg

This should certainly be added to the History of the creation of this coin. It is built off the work of non-for-profit devs that just want to help fund other open source devs. This guy won't even acknowledge us at Devcoin (devtome.com and devcoin.org) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Satoshi0x (talk • contribs) 22:30, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

pornography industry

Dogecoin has also been used in an attempted property sale,[50] and has been used in the pornography[51] and gambling[c] industries.

A single instance of a person accepting Dogecoin is enough to garner a special mention on wikipedia, yet there are multiple coffee chains accepting doge, Tesla accepts Dogecoin for sales, AMC cinemas accept dogecoin across the US and there is no mention of that under 'usage'. It doesn't seem like a long bow to draw to suggest this is hyperbole pushed by someone with an agenda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.150.6.131 (talk) 13:42, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2022

Change It is the current shirt sponsor (sleeve only) of Premier League club Watford. to It is the current shirt sponsor (sleeve only) of EFL Championship club Watford. Watford was relegated and is no longer a part of the Premier League 71.181.116.25 (talk) 20:20, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

 Partly done: removed mention of league altogether. Alduin2000 (talk) 23:03, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Edit request for Introduction (from Developer's webpage)

Dogecoin (/ˈdoʊ(d)ʒkɔɪn/ DOHZH-koyn or DOHJ-koyn, code: DOGE, symbol: Ð) is a cryptocurrency created by software engineers Billy Markus and Jackson Palmer who decided to create a payment system as a joke by copying the protocol of Luckycoin and Litecoin. Dogecoin uses scrypt technology in it's Proof-of-Work algorithm and features the face of the Shiba Inu Kabosu who is depicted as the "Doge" meme and as the Dogecoin logo and namesake. It was introduced on December 6, 2013, and quickly developed its own online community, reaching a market capitalization of US$85,314,347,523 on May 5, 2021.

References

Roronshi (talk) 20:40, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Roronshi

Edit request for caption of Chevrolet race car

One of the two pictures of Josh Wise's Dogecoin race car is captioned as a `Toyota` when it is clearly a Chevrolet. 75.239.252.69 (talk) 18:00, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

 Done (but please use Template:edit semi-protected next time, it makes the request show up in our lists) 3mi1y (talk) 08:05, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2022

I request that the line "Dogecoin's implementation differs from Litecoin (of which its code is forked) by several parameters. Dogecoin's block time is 1 minute as opposed to Litecoin's 2.5 minutes." to be changed to "Dogecoin's implementation differs from Bitcoin (it was originally forked from Litecoin, then refactored to Bitcoin. Dogecoin's block time is 1 minute as opposed to Litecoin's 2.5 minutes and Bitcoin's 10 minutes" or something similar. Dogecoin was originally forked from Litecoin but moved to a Bitcoin codebase in Dogecoin 1.7 (Source: https://github.com/dogecoin/dogecoin/blob/1.7-archive/RELEASE_NOTES_1_7.md) Bunkermatty (talk) 15:08, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

 Done with some minor changes. Thanks for your request :) Actualcpscm (talk) 21:28, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2022

The first source in the positives section only mentions that it is volatile, not why (or even if) that volatility is a positive. I request that the first 2 sentences of this section be removed. Admiral user (talk) 01:06, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

 Partly done: Thanks for calling attention to this. Instead of removing the content in question, I have rewritten it and added a source. In general, it is preferable to keep content with significant encyclopedic value if it can be verified through a reliable source. The value here is referring users to day trading and similar volatility-based strategies, which are highly prevalent in the crypto space. Actualcpscm (talk) 10:39, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

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Edit request for punctuation error

In the lede sentence "It was introduced on December 6, 2013 and quickly developed its own online community reaching a market capitalization of US $1,986,736,955 at it's peak on Sunday, January 7th 2018.", the word "it's" should not have an apostrophe. Please remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8801:1b80:241d:11f8:6a91:611b:d66a (talk) 23:18, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Edit request for circulating supply

> Circulating supply 127 billion (113 billion coins have already been mined)

This item in the infobox contradicts the main text. Dogecoin doesn't have a max supply, so I'm not sure why this distinction of "already been mined" has been made, or where the 113 billion number comes from. The circulating supply right now is ~129 billion.

Circulating Supply:

128,921,115,248 / ∞[1]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by IncognitoJam (talk • contribs) 00:24, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Edit request to add to History

The developers were able to copy the Luckycoin and Litecoin software because it was an open-source protocol — meaning anyone was free to use, study, and share it. Luckycoin is a fork of Litecoin (which itself is a fork of Bitcoin).

The community's motto is "Do Only Good Everyday".

— Preceding unsigned comment added by MazRx (talk • contribs) 03:07, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

References

Edit Request for Positives

The second paragraph of positives opens with "Additionally, while the cryptocurrency may have began as a joke, it certainly isn't anymore." This reads as editorializing. The statement offers no information.

Frankly, the entire paragraph at current state reads poorly, with the following two sentences offering nothing to the article nor to elaborating on how the popularity is a positive to Doge as a currency. Perhaps, if rewritten, the popularity of the coin could be addressed as a "plus" for increasing adoption? Not entirely sure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghstmth (talk • contribs) 03:19, 15 August 2021 (UTC) Dogecoin Price Prediction 2023,2030,2040,2050 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sameenamohsin (talk • contribs) 16:39, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2023

please add how dogecoin switch to AuxPoW with Litecoin in 2014.

In early 2014, Lee suggested merge mining (AuxPoW) Dogecoin with Litecoin to the Dogecoin community at large. In September 2014, Dogecoin began merge-mining with Litecoin, providing increased security for Dogecoin and a permanent block subsidy that previously was not available with Litecoin mining. Shanbelew (talk) 16:01, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Coindesk is not considered a reliable source see WP:COINDESK. Lightoil (talk) 12:02, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2023

Add reference to Dogecoin price on Musk's Twitter deal.

"Dogecoin surges 35% as Elon Musk's Twitter deal approaches close". CNBC. 2022-10-27.

"Dogecoin surges on Elon Musk's Twitter deal". Reuters. 2022-10-29. Hodlittillyoumakeit (talk) 06:48, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. I think you are providing these two sources to fulfill the "citations needed" banner near the end of this article. However, neither citation supports the language in this article ("with Dogecoin increasing as much as 46%"), so I don't think these will do. Please do feel free to reopen this request with either a different source that supports this language, or submit another edit request to alter the page language to conform to any reliable sources you provide. Any new language should probably take into account the two different stats given in these two sourced you've provided here (a 35% increase in one and a 70% increase in another). -- Pinchme123 (talk) 05:03, 5 October 2023 (UTC)