Talk:Duchy of Luxembourg

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On 18 August 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Duchy of Luxemburg to Duchy of Luxembourg. The result of the discussion was moved.

Comments

This article was intended to explain the formative history of Luxembourg, particularly during the middle ages (similar to articles about other medieval fiefs). So I'm not sure inclusion of the modern Grand Duchy is appropriate, mention of the List of Prime Ministers even less.--Caranorn 17:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The title does seem to have led to some confusion as to what the article's purpose is. In fact, I'm not entirely sure myself. May I suggest that it be named 'Constitutional history of Luxembourg', 'Dynastic history of Luxembourg', or something in that form? Bastin 21:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

It was essentially intended as an article on the formative history of medieval Luxembourg, comparable to such articles on other counties or duchies that did not later become sovereign states. Essentially the problem was that unlike many other medieval fiefs you would rarely get detailed historic information about the county/duchy of Luxembourg and instead land on an article about the modern grand-duchy... Since Stijn Calle's edits I'm not sure what to do with the article either, though it was certainly originally my fault not to have finished the article I'd planned.--Caranorn 22:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I understand. In that case, I believe that County of Luxembourg and Duchy of Luxembourg ought to be separate articles, whilst (obviously) Grand Duchy of Luxembourg can continue to redirect to Luxembourg (whilst this one can either disambiguate between them or redirect to History of Luxembourg). Previously, I intended to expand History of Luxembourg, and then gradually subdivide it. The divisions were to be those seen in the article and in {{History of Luxembourg}}. However, so long as those time periods are related to dynastic possession, there really isn't much scope for separate articles on the County and Duchy. I think that the two options for pre-1790 history are to organise it by either:

Constitutional periods - up to 963 (History of Luxembourg (before 963)), 963-1353 (County of Luxembourg), 1353-1790 (Duchy of Luxembourg).
Dynastic periods - as there currently are in History of Luxembourg, except with 1815 being changed to 1790, and a new article being created for Luxembourg under the French occupation (per the World Wars ones, but perhaps not quite as good).

Bastin 00:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Requested move 18 August 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) EggRoll97 ^(talk) 17:58, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Duchy of Luxemburg → Duchy of Luxembourg – Luxembourg is the default English spelling in general. I'm happy to withdraw this move request if there is evidence that the duchy should be spelled differently but I do not expect so. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:32, 18 August 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 13:46, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Soft support For consistency's sake, and because it was moved without discussion about 10 years ago, then moved back to "-bourg" and again moved forward to "-burg", all without discussion and in disregard of the inconsistency this created. But I would not object to keeping it "Luxemburg" either because of historical English spelling. If we do, however, we should also rename House of Luxembourg and all items in Category:House of Luxembourg to -"burg". See background discussion here. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 03:46, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Luxembourg has been notified of this discussion. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 13:47, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.