Talk:Early life and career of Thomas Jefferson

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This article was nominated for deletion on 2 May 2011. The result of the discussion was keep.

Deletion?

Keep This is a well done ancestry chart, well referenced, on a serious topic --one of the most famous men in history. No reason to erase it--there is nothing like it easily available and it is not at all controversial. Rjensen (talk) 07:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How far back and forward do we go?

His mother was born in England and her family can be traced there. There are also "Thomas Jeffersons" going back to TJ's great-grandfather and an uncle. Malone covers a lot of genealogy but this article should draw a line somewhere as to how far back and how far forward it should go. Brad (talk) 20:55, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Editors took most of this article from Thomas Jefferson and full sources are there. Clearly they should have been corrected and identified in full here.Parkwells (talk) 19:19, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Ancestry

The Ancestry section shows that the earliest known Jefferson ancestors were Samuel Jefferson and his wife Elizabeth... and Christopher Branch's wife was Sarah Almond. Are there source(s) for this information?

I have seen a potential ancestor of John Jefferson with cited sources in Peter Jefferson#Ancestry. The was the name of the Jefferson who was a delegate in the first legislative assembly of Colonial America in 1619.

Thanks!–CaroleHenson (talk) 19:33, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In looking at the information, it seems that there are many other people in this chart that do not have reliable sources, too. It seems as if someone built this from personal genealogy records, versus reliable secondary sources. After more searching, I removed Samuel Jefferson, Elizabeth, and Sarah Almond. I am happy to research the rest of the chart as well, unless someone can help me understand if there are good sources for this info.–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:23, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I have added sources to the Ancestry tree. In at least one case, the source was weaker than I would have liked and in that case I added a {{better source}} tag with an explanation. Where I couldn't find reliable, clear information for the named individual, they were removed from the ancestry tree.

In one case the true name of a mother is unclear, and I added a note in that case with potential names.

In other words, I consider this issue

Done - unless anyone has questions about the cited sources, approach, etc.–CaroleHenson (talk) 01:13, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear citation style tag

I am not understanding this tag, except regarding the Ancestry section.

Was there an issue since resolved? What is the problem (except re: Ancestry chart)?–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:31, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the issue is that not all of books have references with short references {{sfn}} and the long source info listed in the Further reading and bibliography section. If that is the issue, is it a big deal?–CaroleHenson (talk) 09:12, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No one has answered this message, so it's original intention seems to be resolved or no longer an issue. I am going to remove the tag.–CaroleHenson (talk) 00:56, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Removing: 'and graduated in 1762 with highest honors.^{[citation needed]} '

1. There is no source for it. The lack of source have been challenged since 2012 and no one has during these ten years managed to find a citation supporting the claim. 2. William & Mary writes that Jefferson's course of study at W&M lasted for two years, and he then went on to read law for the next five years under George Wythe. If he had manage to get a BA after two years, I am sure it would have been mentioned at that site and also been found in the standard biographies of Jefferson. Creuzbourg (talk) 15:56, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]