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Edits by user Vivek Cherian

The user has provided invalid citiation.

the user says

"(Cited references to various Leftist/Communist groups through out India which support this spliter group. The original Free Software Movement in India has been associated with the Free Software Foundation of India.)"

and provides this as the citation http://www.fsmi.in/member-organizations

I am not sure how the author calls these leftist/communist organisations. free software and open source supporters might not like them being called communist without a basis or their subscription to such an ideology.

The user doesnt seemt to support neutrality of content and is quick in giving wrong citiations without factual basis. there were simillar debates on the fsmi page earlier as well — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.242.28.100 (talk) 06:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Contributer connected with the subject !?

"A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies, particularly neutral point of view. Please discuss further on the talk page. (March 2010)"

This notice was seen pasted in the article Free Software Movement of India which I created. I stoutly defend my action of creating the article.

I have absolutely no connection whatsoever with the subject or the Movement described in the article.
I have absolutely no connection whatsoever with any of the personalities described in the article. I had not even heard of the names mentioned in the article. I could understand who they are only after getting to know of their profiles.
My only interest in the subject was my fascination for the concept of Free Software.
Many people, including myself, consider The Hindu as a respected, reliable national newspaper reporting authentic news. I could not get any other third party references regarding the subject.
I believe that, despite the controversies surrounding the formation of the FSMI, which has been faithfully recorded in the article by somebody (not me), the Free Software Movement of India is a new significant addition to the growing number of organisations and movements trying to spread the idea of free software.
Further, the sheer fact that the subject of the article attracted so much of controversy and discussion in the public sphere within a few days of its formation is itself reason and justification for the notability of the subject and its inclusion in Wikipedia. The article is obviously and clearly written with a neutral point of view. If anybody feels otherwise, he/she is free to edit and modify the article appropriately. Deletion of the article is not the answer to the problem.
I strongly urge that the article be not deleted. If it is eventually deleted it will be a huge paradox on the basic tenets of Wikipedia, one of the staunchest supporters of free knowledge and free society. This is like a self-proclaimed champion of freedom blocking somebody the freedom to talk about an organisation formed with the declared objective of spreading the concept of freedom.

Thanks.Krishnachandranvn (talk) 00:53, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That the author has close connection with the organisation is not a rightful reason to delete the article. Wikipedia is a forum to gather all the world's information. The existence of "Free Software Movement of India" is a fact. It should be documented. If it isn't presented in a neutral point of view or not in an encyclopaedic style, feel free to change it, for that exactly is the spirit of Wikipedia. But facts can't be deleted. --n@vneet 15:56, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_Wikipedia,_X_is_an_Article,_not_Evil clearly states that anyone is free to edit and there are no iffs. The objection is invalid. Vincent (talk) 05:47, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

I guess the following are reliable and neutral secondary sources of information. Whats the motivation for deletion. I find the entry in accordance to these newspaper reports. I request the tag author to point of specific anomalies what he/she thinks is not in accordance with neutral sources of information. It will be a loss to wikipedia if the entry is deleted.

Deccan Herald : A independent newspaper of repute in Bangalore

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/59304/making-sense-unjust-world.html http://www.deccanherald.com/content/58966/free-software-movement-gaining-ground.html

The Hindu : Is also reputed newspaper

http://www.thehindu.com/2010/03/17/stories/2010031751130200.htm http://www.thehindu.com/2010/03/19/stories/2010031961140300.htm http://www.thehindu.com/2010/03/20/stories/2010032064330300.htm http://www.thehindu.com/2010/03/21/stories/2010032154350500.htm http://beta.thehindu.com/news/cities/Bangalore/article245413.ece http://beta.thehindu.com/news/article261275.ece

web paper:
http://bangalore.citizenmatters.in/events/show/2260-a-run http://bangalore.citizenmatters.in/events/show/2210-national-conference http://bangalore.citizenmatters.in/articles/view/689-richard-stallman-btm-layout

Blogs
http://ideasareimmortal.blogspot.com/2010/03/national-conference-on-free-software.html http://ideasareimmortal.blogspot.com/2010/03/nc2010-day-2-and-free-software-movement.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.163.216.217 (talk) 03:09, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

some more search in kannada space

Prajavani is a newspaper of repute and smapada has beeb around as well

http://avadhi.wordpress.com/2010/03/13/%E0%B2%95%E0%B2%A8%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%A8%E0%B2%A1-%E0%B2%B2%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%A8%E0%B2%95%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%B8%E0%B3%8D-%E0%B2%A4%E0%B2%82%E0%B2%A4%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%B0%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%82%E0%B2%B6-%E0%B2%AC/

http://www.prajavani.net/Content/Mar252010/netmail20100324176349.ಅಸ್ಪ್ http://sampada.net/article/೨೪೩೯೪ http://mandyamultimedia.com/news040310.html

"In the past, Richard Stallman has approved of the creation of organisations parallel to FSFI[17]. FSFI and organizations part of FSMI such as FSMK have worked together on many aspects together.[18] Dr. Nagarjuna, Chairman of FSFI Board of Directors[19], was unable to participate in the conference due to certain commitments[20]."

Though the above are facts and are correlated with secondary sources. This can be considered reporting mailing list reference in wiki articles. Hence can be dropped otherwise I find the article to be in accordance to secondary source of information

There is no need to remove valid sources from mailing list communication. The template style may need modification though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_mailing_list Vincent (talk) 05:49, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

From the above reliable sources, the notability of FSMK and FSMI (of which FSMK is a part) is established. Vincent (talk) 06:41, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The FSM-I is born and widely reported in print and web media. The FSM-I has started organising events. The first such event is planned in Bangalore on April 10-11, 2010 ie "FOSS for budding developers". http://www.nc2010.fsmk.org/LDW/ Prof. Gopinath, IISc, Vice President, FSMI will give the inaugural address.

One of the main aim and objective of FSM-I is to consolidate the free software activities in different states in order to deepen and widen the free software activities across the states in the mass movement mode. Among umpteen free software groups and organizations which differentiate FSM-I is that the FSM-I believes that only the mass movement can take the free software to the last man. Regarding other organizations joining the FSM-I, the http://fsmi.in/ reads as follows.

“FSMI considers all organisations working for free software, free knowledge, free science & technology and free society as allies and intends working with them closely. It also invites such organisations to join FSMI.” —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.174.83.70 (talk) 07:46, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion on content improvement

Suggestions are invited to improve the article so that it does not sound promotional, non-compliant with Wikipedia policy. Vikram Vincent 13:05, 28 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincentvikram (talk • contribs)

The article has been cleaned up significantly to ensure WP:NPOV and several more links have been added to support notability WP:N of the formation of the organisation mentioned in the article Vikram Vincent 10:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)Vincentvikram (talk • contribs)

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