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Hi Gandydancer, regarding this edit, for any medical claim it's better to source the material directly to the GuLF Study, or to another medical source discussing the study, rather than to a newspaper reporting on it. SlimVirgin (talk) 19:45, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see you added a press release from the NIEHS. Can you say which part supports the edit, and can we not use the study itself as the source (whatever it is publishing)? SlimVirgin (talk) 23:51, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Slim, I was still working on it and planned to ask you for an opinion. As far as I can tell, they have not released their study. Do you think I should delete my edit? Best, Gandy Gandydancer (talk) 00:07, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Slim, I am using this as a guide:

Statements and information from reputable major medical and scientific bodies may be valuable encyclopedic sources. These bodies include the U.S. National Academies (including the Institute of Medicine and the National Academy of Sciences), the British National Health Service, the U.S. National Institutes of Health and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the World Health Organization. The reliability of these sources range from formal scientific reports, which can be the equal of the best reviews published in medical journals, through public guides and service announcements, which have the advantage of being freely readable, but are generally less authoritative than the underlying medical literature.

I need to get this right as I am using it in the Health article as well. Gandydancer (talk) 00:30, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Some information from the study has been made available during conferences (e.g. this one). There's nothing about published papers on their website. We should probably email them to ask how we can keep this article updated.
In the meantime, yes, that edit needs a MEDRS-compliant source. The newspaper's source was this conference in January 2013. The reporter quotes Richard Kwok, staff scientist with the National Institute for Environmental Health Sciences' chronic disease epidemiology group: "Initial research already confirms that those working on vessels during the spill cleanup as roustabouts or floor hands had higher exposures to the chemicals of concern than those who worked inside the ship, Kwok said." But it's not clear whether Kwok said this during a presentation or an interview with the reporter. What we need is Kwok's paper so that we can be very precise. The material about the women is from a separate study, WaTCH. SlimVirgin (talk) 00:39, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm moving this here for now, as I can't find it anywhere except in that newspaper article, which was copied in the NIEHS press release.

Richard Kwok of the NIEHS said in January 2013 that early research suggested that people working as roustabouts or floor hands on ships during the spill had a higher exposure to certain chemicals than those who worked inside the ship. He also said that the chemicals to which the workers were exposed were more likely to have come from the BP oil than from the diesel or gasoline fumes to which they were also exposed. Early results of another study, Women and Their Children's Health (WaTCH), indicated a statistically significant relationship between the reported symptoms of 244 women enrolled in the study and their exposure to the spill.[1]

  1. ^ Mark Schleifstein, "BP Deepwater Horizon spill: Scientists say seafood safe, but health effects being measured", The Times-Picayune, 22 January 2013.

SlimVirgin (talk) 04:34, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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