Talk:I Wonder (Kanye West song)

I Wonder (Kanye West song) is currently a Songs good article nominee. Nominated by K. Peake at 20:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

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@Kyle Peake: You might consider adding this song to Template:Kanye West songs. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:29, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Redundant

A lot of sections simply restate the same information that has already been covered previously in the article. I wanted to mention this here because I am not personally that good at rewriting (or even deleting) sections and wanted to leave that to someone else who is. Shamokinite (talk) 18:02, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Shamokinite It is notable you brought this to attention, coincidentally I had been working on removing the unsourced or duplicate info before seeing this comment and the article is now hard enough worked to be a GAN! --K. Peake 07:51, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:I Wonder (Kanye West song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Kyle Peake (talk · contribs) 20:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: That Tired Tarantula (talk · contribs) 20:31, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm That Tired Tarantula. I'll review this article during this week. That Tired Tarantula^Burrow 20:31, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. WP:MOS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

First look

No maintenance templates: Y
Relavent images are present: Y
No recent edit wars: Y
Nominator is a signifcant contributor: Y

Copyright

No copyright violations/plagiarism: Y
Images are free (unless a rationale is given if they are not) and tagged: Y

Prose

Broadness and focus

The writing covers all the necessary sections for an article about the song and the article isn't too long. Sometimes the article goes a bit off-topic and starts talking about Kanye's career in general, but this only happens in a couple spots.

Writing and MoS

The prose is good overall, but there's some small spots that need copy editing. I'll look at the article and do a cleanup.

So far I've looked at the lead and background sections. There's a couple spots I have some recommendations for:

In the first paragraph of the background section, it says, "After touring with the band on their Vertigo Tour from 2005 to 2006, he became jealous witnessing lead singer Bono open stadium concerts with their 2005 single 'City of Blinding Lights.' West then sought out to compose rap songs that could operate just as effectively in similar live venues." The article doesn't mention why Kanye was jealous or what's meant by the song being effective, so it's sort of jumping to conclusions. The sentence after these two says how Kanye wanted to make his lyrics slower and simpler to have more of an impact, so it'd be good to relate it to how "City of Blinding Lights" sounds in an explanation between the sentences.
Closer to the end the second paragraph of the background section, it says "Prior to the release of Graduation, West spoke of wanting to write songs that listeners could connect with. This is largely demonstrated in the song, which also resembles an anthem." I'd recommend moving this sentence closer to the start of that paragraph and removing the second one, since the sentences at the start already talk about how Kanye worked to make his music more relatable.

Neutrality

There's some puffery in the lyrics and composition section and for the reception, sometimes the critics' opinions are presented in the voice of the article, but that can be changed with some slight rewording. I'll fix it during cleanup.

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