Talk:Ithilien

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Merging Emyn Arnen

I propose the merging of Emyn Arnen into Ithilien as they overlap on important details as the provenance of the Numenorean nobles and the Stewardship of Gondor, and the later Princedom of Ithilien by Faramir, ruling from Emyn Arnen.

Without much opposition, I will do this soon to minimize redundancy and improve Ithilien as a compacted whole deriving from several short articles. Feel free to comment!

Also, I have seen several hidden Gondorian outposts in Ithilien, created by Steward Ecthelion I, an outstanding example would be Henneth Annûn. I am also considering to add this info..

--11:11, 28 January 2007 (UTC)—- .:Seth Nimbosa:. (talk • contribs)

DONE

no comments so far

Agree. Merge is best for this and Henneth Annûn. Carcharoth 13:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Old talk from Talk:Emyn Arnen

Actually, the movie got the scene pretty much right. It really was just a hidden cave behind a waterfall with supplies stacked here and there. ---Ricimer, October 30, 2004

The Emyn Arnen are not where Faramir brings Frodo that's Hennuth Anun. That's Northeast of Minas Tirith in North Ithilien, while the Emyn Arnen are in South-East Ithili---Ricimer

Correct on both accounts. For a quick confirmation of the actual location of the Window on the West, see this map.

Furthermore, the intended meaning of the name is not "High Hills", but rather "Hills beside the water" (Vinyar Tengwar 42:17).

I've corrected this article, and will take care of the Henneth Annûn redirect shortly. --LRC 20:56, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

etymology of "Emyn Arnen"

Emyn Arnen (Sindarin "Hills of Arnen", Arnen being of pre-Númenórean origin)

I won't dispute that, but wouldn't it mean "king's water" in Sindarin? That could have been either

Tolkien's original idea, which he later decided to change to the pre-Númenórean origin, or
a chance resemblance (as we say in Middle-earth), which nevertheless would influence many people's understanding of the name

Thnidu 17:13, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Rangers of Ithilien to here?

I'm not going to do the templates tonight, but I was wondering: both Ithilien and Rangers of Ithilien are incredibly short, so shouldn't they be merged together? Anyone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nrodovsky (talk • contribs) 07:44, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I have tagged both articles.--Jack Upland (talk) 08:22, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rangers of Ithilien info might also be included at Rangers of the North. Goustien (talk) 17:52, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly the Rangers of the South are not Rangers of the North. I think if this article is not deleted, then Ithilien is the best merge target.--Jack Upland (talk) 23:55, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]