Talk:Mary McCarthy (author)

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Mary McCarthy (author) article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Biography: Arts and Entertainment

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the arts and entertainment work group.

Literature

	Literature portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Literature, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Literature on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.LiteratureWikipedia:WikiProject LiteratureTemplate:WikiProject LiteratureLiterature articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Women writers High‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women writers, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of women writers on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women writersWikipedia:WikiProject Women writersTemplate:WikiProject Women writersWomen writers articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

United States: Washington / Seattle Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Washington (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject Washington - Seattle (assessed as Low-importance).

Text and/or other creative content from this version of Mary McCarthy (author) was copied or moved into Literary feud with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Untitled

but by the latter half of the decade she had repudiated Soviet Union-style expressing solidarity with Leon Trotsky after the Moscow Trials,

Does this clause mean anything? And if so, what? I shall be recasting to my best guess as to the intended meaning.

It looks like this is the product of a random deletion back in March. The line originally read:

"but by the latter half of the decade she had repudiated Soviet Union-style Communism, expressing solidarity with Leon Trotsky after the Moscow Trials[...]"

Your edit appears to return it to the original intent. ~CS 21:22, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed this to "Soviet-Style Communism." This was my original intent, since the term encapsulates both the Russian "Soviet" and such movements in America. User:SAWIT 9:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was no consensus. —Nightst a llion (?) 08:48, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

Mary McCarthy (author) → Mary McCarthy … Rationale: The author is the historically significant person. The former CIA analyst is already out of the news and will be a footnote to history in another two weeks. ~ trialsanderrors 08:49, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~

"'Support'"--Mary Therese McCarthy (author) will likely remain the primary object of interest. It it worth noting that the author has already indured a number of such identity trials including conflation with a Hollywood screenwriter.

Weak oppose -- As long as a proper dab page exists, there's no problem with this article having its new, "qualified" title. Atlant 11:45, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I don't see any real reason to get rid of the dab page, while there's still an ambiguous article here. If/when the other Mary McCarthy is deleted, that'd be the time to address the issue. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 20:57, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong suppport Primary usage. Dab header, of ocurse. Septentrionalis 02:54, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support as the requester. With only two entries under Mary McCarthy, there is no need for a dab page, as long as there is a dab header in each article. ~ trialsanderrors 04:47, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: It should be noted that, contrary to the information provided in the header for this straw poll, the McCarthy from the CIA is not out of the news. In fact, there was a large article about her in the Washington Post just yesterday. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 13:16, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I linked to this Saturday night. It was, of course, the first article of note in about three weeks, and I've been monitoring the situation fairly closely. ~ trialsanderrors 17:26, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Sigh...the author is clearly the primary usage. But I suppose the previous poll was too recent. If someone refers to "Mary McCarthy" without any context, it's going to be the author, not some minor figure from the news. john k 13:20, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hellman lawsuit

It isn't true that the lawsuit against McCarthy kept on until both women's deaths. Someone has "documented" this with a reference to Kiernan's biography, p. 702, but in fact there is no reference to this happening in that biography. In fact, on p. 701, Kiernan documents that Hellman's estate ended the suit in August, only a little over a month after Hellman died.

Isn't the lumping together of the Moscow Trials and the Popular Front inaccurate and misleading as the latter was also part of a strategy employed by non-communist and liberals to ally with the Soviets and their followers against Hitler which culminated in the three power alliance of the Allies against the Axis? Unfortunately, much of the Partisan Review set oriented around the isolationalist America First crowd based on their anti-communism, an attitude that informed the "withchunt" of the 50s and Cold War Liberals like McCarthy who colluded with it.

Moreover, McCarthy's scurrilous attacks on former POW Risner whom she had visited in Hanoi in 1968 tend to corroborate Hellman's characterization of McCarthy as a malicious, narcissistic and unscrupulous philistine, an example of the stereotype of the bourgois intellectual as an unsavory cosmopolitan type.

I hate boxes!

Why? The one on this biographical page provides a classic example of the stupid editting promoted by boxes. Ever detail of where this woman died and what she died of is inside that box. Well, I suppose that her death is a verifiable fact! However the box tells me nothing whatsoever that I need to know. I can get the birth and death dates and nationality from the first line of the intro.

So the box presents lung cancer as the most significant event in a productive life! Amandajm (talk) 07:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moreover, the marriage dates in this box make no sense at all. Especially for the last two spouses it looks like she was married to both at the same time... --140.247.40.254 (talk) 23:12, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 3 external links on Mary McCarthy (author). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 20:51, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified (January 2018)

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Mary McCarthy (author). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070929032834/http://kenspeckle.net/blog/2007/08/26/mary-mccarthys-nyc/ to http://kenspeckle.net/blog/2007/08/26/mary-mccarthys-nyc/

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 10:41, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Autobiography

In the wiki page for The Company She Keeps, McCarthy’s autobiography Memories of a Catholic Girlhood is described as her best-known work. Yet the link on this page only clicks-back to the listing. Somebody might care to generate a dedicated page for this book. Valetude (talk) 12:15, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Place of death

Ms. McCarthy did not die at "NewYork Presbyterian Hospital" as her death was years before the merger. She died at either New York Hospital or Presbyterian Hospital and the article should specify which. 72.105.78.189 (talk) 02:23, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reuel Wilson

Mary McCarthy and Edmund Wilson had a son, Reuel Wilson. Reuel Wilson wrote a memoir of life with his parents: Holding the Road: Away from Edmund Wilson and Mary McCarthy (CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform, 2019). Perhaps this reference should be added. Bluehen (talk) 18:35, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bluehen, I put it in as "further reading". Schazjmd (talk) 18:58, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]