Talk:Poecile

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Chickadee

I propose that chickadee be redirected to this page instead of to tit (bird). When considering this, please keep this in mid: If someone types in "chickadee", what do they want to see? I think this page, greatly expanded, would fit the bill best. All chickadees clearly are in the core group of this distinct genus. If these pages are merged information specifically on the behavior etc. of these birds could appear here in more detail than on the tit page. If you have anything to say on the matter please put it below. If you have anything to tell me, please see my talk page. Innotata 16:32, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure about this. I'd be interested to know what more American birders think. When us coarse European-types are discussing our tits do you think we're talking about chickadees? Do you see a Great Tit and and think of agile little chicks back home hanging upside down pecking at your nuts? (okay sorry I'll stop now). Sabine's Sunbird talk 03:02, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Genus endings of Poecile

In the second paragraph of the article one can read: "It has traditionally been treated as feminine (giving name endings such as cincta); however, this was not specified by the original genus author Johann Jakob Kaup, and under the ICZN the genus name must therefore be treated by default as masculine, giving name endings such as cinctus." But that is obvious nonsense to anybody who knows latin lagnuage: Kaup named the bird "Dohlenmeise" as "Poecile palustris". So he DID define the genus name as female - otherwise he would have named the bird "Poecile paluster". Andreas von Stackelberg (talk) 12:56, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

By the way: The marsh tit is still named "Poecile palustris" - so IF Poecile would be male, the marsh tit would have to be renamed "Poecile palustre" - what is even worse than to change the wrong name of all the -us endings to the correct -a. To admit it had been "traditionally" been treated as female is in full text: When people still knew latin, it was handled correctly. Andreas von Stackelberg (talk) 13:02, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]