Talk:Prince Gong

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In the 1890s, after the death of the 1st prince Chun, Empress Dowager Cixi asked Prince Gong to return to the court, but he died shortly afterwards. (Note added by a reader: This sentence is very doubtful. After the death of the 1st Prince Chun, Prince Gong's younger brother, in 1891, Prince Gong was not recalled to power. Prince Gong was recalled to serve the imperial government when China was very badly defeated by the Japanese in the First Sino-Japanese War (1894-1895). From 1894-1898, Prince Gong was recalled to power because of the great difficulties of the imperial government. On the whole, Prince Gong was strongly suspected by his brother and sister-in-law such that he was delegated power only under very difficult situations.)

CopaceticThought (talk) 10:27, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Move?

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Page moved. There were two consensus opinions in the discussion. Yixin should be moved and the dab page should be at the main name space. So to allow the dab page move, Yixin was moved to Prince Gong (Qing dynasty). Vegaswikian (talk) 23:07, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yixin → Prince Gong –

Per the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese)#Late Qing Dynasty Princely titles. Lonelydarksky (暗無天日) _{contact me (聯絡)} 08:00, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Or move to Prince Gong (Qing dynasty), and Prince Gong (disambiguation) to Prince Gong? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:36, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Move disambiguation page to primary 70.24.248.23 (talk) 00:55, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As a proponent of this, I will obviously support. Colipon+(Talk) 02:42, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 8 October 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved to Prince Gong, dab page moved to Prince Gong (disambiguation). Consensus that this guy is the primary topic for "Prince Gong". Jenks24 (talk) 13:52, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Gong (Qing dynasty) → Yixin, Prince Gong – The current title is imprecise, as there were other "Prince Gong"s in Qing dynasty, e.g. Changning (prince), Yuzhan etc. The Yixin, Prince Gong title would also be consistent with other Qing dynasty princes such as Yinzhi, Prince Cheng, Yinzhi, Prince Zhi, Yongqi, Prince Rong etc. Personally I would have preferred just Yixin, which also redirects to the page because it's WP:PRECISE and WP:NATURAL but there had been a discussion against it at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Chinese)/Archive_13#Late_Qing_Dynasty_Princely_titles. Timmyshin (talk) 04:53, 8 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 08:01, 19 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 12:32, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Prince Gong, per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. If you look at Google book results for "Prince Gong", almost all of them are about Yixin. He is also the only Prince Gong included in Encyclopedia of China. Few other Prince Gongs listed on the dab page are even commonly known as Prince Gong. Most Han dynasty "wang" are actually more commonly translated as "king" rather than "prince" (e.g. in The Cambridge History of China), because they actually ruled their autonomous kingdoms. -Zanhe (talk) 08:40, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Zanhe's proposal makes sense. Move it "Prince Gong". That's what's all the sources call him. Tasty love salad (talk) 00:47, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment. Sorry to prolong this discussion, but as it looks like the consensus may be to displace the disambiguation page, a note (which I'll place after making this relist) will have to be left on that talk page for a reasonable period of time before a move can proceed. Jenks24 (talk) 12:32, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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