Talk:Royal Albert Dock, Liverpool

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Albert Dock at Night

That picture 'Albert Dock at Night'... isn't that actually looking over the SALTHOUSE dock? :p 81.31.97.129 (talk) 17:53, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. Thumbnail label has been clarified. Snowy 1973 (talk) 10:45, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stacks vs Pavillions

I note that the article refers to 'Pavillion (formally xxx stack)'. Does this mean the formal name of the pavillion is xxx stack - or that it used to be xxx stack, with 'formally' being a mistake for 'formerly'? To my mind, 'formerly' is probably the word intended. If I don't get any argument ot proof to the contrary, I'll change it in a week or two. Peridon (talk) 19:00, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Beatles Story

Hello thats not right.

Two years later in 1990 The Beatles Story museum opened, the only Beatles themed visitor attraction in the world, providing yet another draw to the Albert Dock

Have a look [1] and de:Beatles-Museum Halle. Regards --Knochen ﱢﻝﱢ‎ 14:16, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good point - I changed it to "in Britain". --David Edgar (talk) 15:04, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Page title update

The title of the page needs to be changed from The Royal Albert Dock Liverpool to Royal Albert Dock Liverpool.

Is there any reason why other than just branding? Dormskirk (talk) 17:19, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It should be something like Royal Albert Dock, Liverpool or even Royal Albert Dock (Liverpool), but the current format doesn't meet WP:TITLE.

I'd also question whether Royal Albert Dock should go to the London dock (which is later), or to the set index page Albert Dock (disambiguation). Andy Dingley (talk) 08:35, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of Atlantic slave trade?

Just curious here: there's no mention of the Atlantic Slave Trade despite the Merseyside Maritime Museum being host to the International Slavery Museum, and the dry docks being located directly adjacent to (then not Royal but now) Royal Albert Dock, with the warehousing on the dock itself storing products yielded by the kidnapping and sale of Africans, with the main prewar economic boom of the city owing almost everything to the slave trade itself. It seems a little wild that it's not mentioned at all — I'm happy to include it based on secondary sources written by the museum itself as well as other sources, but I'm trying to build consensus first because of the rating of this article. Anyone care to chime in? ɯɐɔ 💬 08:11, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but having had a quick read up, the Slavery Abolishion Act was 1833 and the dock opened in 1846. I'm sure all slavery didn't end exactly in 1833 and money earned from the slavery probably funded part of the docks, but I can't see anything in the article, or about Jesse Hartley, that says how the dock's construction was funded. That aside, it does seem unusual there is little reference of slavery when the association with Liverpool is so strong. Did you have an idea what you were going to write about the links? LicenceToCrenellate (talk) 08:50, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Largest single collection of Grade I listed buildings anywhere in the UK

The claim that the dock contains "the largest single collection of Grade I listed buildings anywhere in the UK" is made in the lead, although I can't see it directly repeated in the body, sourced to this 2003 Guardian article, [2]. What the article actually says is "at 1.25m sq ft the largest group of Grade I buildings in Britain". I think there is a confusion between "largest" as "biggest", and "largest" as "greatest number". The Dock has five Grade I listed buildings:

Atlantic Pavilion (1205175) (formerly Warehouse A)
Britannia Pavilion and the Colonnades (1068409) (formerly Warehouses B & C)
Merseyside Maritime Museum and the International Slavery Museum (1280847) (formerly Warehouse D)
Edward Pavilion (1068410) (formerly Warehouse E)
Dock Traffic Office (1356264)

There are many sites in Britain that have a greater number of Grade I listed buildings, e.g. Stowe Gardens which has around 40. So, I don't think that the claim for the RAD, "the largest single collection of Grade I listed buildings anywhere in the UK", can be supported. Moreover, I don't think it's actually what the Guardian was saying. I think it is saying that the five-building RAD complex is, at 1.25m sq ft, the "biggest" (in size) group of Grade Is in the UK. Happy to make an amendment to reflect this, but wanted to offer an opportunity for views, given the article's GA status. The article's main author appears not to have edited in over a decade. KJP1 (talk) 06:27, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with your proposed amendment. Best. Dormskirk (talk) 08:15, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded, good spot. LicenceToCrenellate (talk) 10:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]