Talk:Sail-by salute

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I began this article as a redirect to Costa Concordia disaster, but it turns out that there's plenty of on-line material about it, such as the Christian Science Monitor news story. So I think we can make this a stand-alone article.

My interest in this topic is primarily in regards to ship safety and passenger safety. Please help me to supply sufficient references to establish the notability of this topic. --Uncle Ed (talk) 16:58, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just from the perspective of a gun salute being a function of the armed forces, I'm not sure what the private sector (i.e. civilians) has to do with a gun salute article, though even with my background, I'll confess that I'm not exactly sure what a 'near shore salute' is.Ryecatcher773 (talk) 18:58, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Near-shore salute" does not even appear in the one article, aside from the title. Does a ship fire a gun, or blow the whistle, or wave from the bridge, or what, when they perform this maneuver? Maybe this should just be a redirect, unless there are multiple reliable sources with significant coverage, beside the one article about this ship supposedly doing it. Google Book search has no results for "near-shore salute" , nor does Google News archive. I only see commentary about the practice since this particular incident. Some articles call it a "cruise ship salute" or a "sail-by," or just a "salute."Edison (talk) 21:15, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it's interesting to me because there is controversy over whether such a practice (a) really exists and/or (b) is officially sponsored or unofficially tolerated. I'm collecting different viewpoints on this.

Also, we can move the article to Cruise ship salute or Sail-by if those are better titles for the article. --Uncle Ed (talk) 22:32, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have asked for help with this article at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Transport/Maritime transport task force. --Bensin (talk) 09:19, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is a really murky topic. Do cruise ship operators sometimes "showboat" to get more eyes on their ship - yes. There's also a flip-side, in that it gives the crew and passengers something interesting to look at. Naval ships often wait in a particular "box" laid out on the chart, and will sometimes favor the part of the box that is closest to population areas. On the other hand, there's a requirement for a berth-to-berth voyage plan. Deviating from the voyage plan for a silly purpose puts the bridge watchstanders' licenses in jeopardy. If the captain and navigator sign off on a voyage plan that is indefensibly close to land, the flag state authorities will have cause to investigate.

IMHO, I think the likelihood of finding WP:RS on what Schettino did is about the same as finding an instructional manual on how to talk on a cel-phone and play with your car radio in heavy traffic while drinking. Cheers, Haus^Talk 18:36, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]