Talk:Sleeve gastrectomy

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Removal of the section "Costs"

I support the removal of the section "Costs" as it was mostly unsourced and certainly did not represent a worldwide view. It was more cherry picking. The Banner talk 10:25, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't. There should be something on costs and prices, maybe boiled down to a paragraph. JuanTamad (talk) 12:02, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It leaves many countries out who have a type of health insurance that pays directly for the surgery without the patient knowing the costs. Just cherry picking a few countries, with a strong focus on the USA and eastern Europe, is not a neutral worldwide view on the matter. The Banner talk 12:38, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, not arguing with that. I agree it needs revision, but not just delete it all. The focus on US and Europe probably can't be avoided. I can work on it, try to find some citations. see what you think. JuanTamad (talk) 03:16, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In all the medical articles I've read on Wikipedia, this was the first I've seen that mentioned anything about costs in this way. I cannot see how it could be encyclopaedic. Just like the article about bread does not discuss the cost of a loaf of bread, the article about Lufthansa does not mention the prices of their flights, and the article on The Dorchester does not tell you the cost of spending a night there - prices are just not a relevant detail in most cases. Only if the price itself has been discussed in several independent reliable sources would it be encyclopaedically valuable. An example of that would be Pyrimethamine where the price gouging was widely reported. 88.217.152.166 (talk) 05:45, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think whoever created the section thought of sleeve gastrectomy being somewhat like a Abdominoplasty, which has a cost section. And it is purely elective, sort of cosmetic, for many people, so probably something a reader is looking for, at least to get an idea. 3-4 sentencces, but the tummy tuck is the only one I see and it has problems. JuanTamad (talk) 07:21, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Readers don't come to encyclopaedia articles to find out the price of medical procedures. That information is not something that an encyclopaedia article should provide, for the reasons I outlined above. If the cost itself is discussed in reliable secondary sources, it should be discussed in the encyclopaedia. Otherwise, you're only going to be able to base it on primary sources, it will be geographically biased, it will be outdated quickly, and it simply will not fulfil an encyclopaedic purpose. 88.217.152.166 (talk) 07:33, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ok, agree. Delete it from the Abdominoplasty page also. JuanTamad (talk) 08:37, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]