Talk:Stephen Collins

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Sexual Abuse "Allegations"

Should the section be called "sexual abuse allegations"? He admitted to sexually abusing girls, so shouldn't it just be something like sexual abuse? Any ideas for a better title to the section? Denisrodman88 (talk) 01:40, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding is that in the USA, at least, the law considers people to be innocent of a crime until proven guilty. The word 'alleged' must be used if a court case has not proven guilt. This is true whether or not people have admitted to the crime in public or private. Corrections from people with more knowledge than I are welcome here. David Spector (talk) 17:51, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

David spector is correct. Unless we have a source that he was convicted, it is alledged. Sundayclose (talk) 19:22, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Both of you would be correct if the question at hand were whether or not the section were titled Sexual Abuse Convictions, but as he has personally admitted to being a sexual abuser and as having sexually abused people, as per the references contained within this article, and even the article itself..... the section title should be changed. To what though I do not know. I will think about it. Denisrodman88 (talk) 20:37, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with a title change. While they are not convictions, they are also not simply allegations, as he has admitted to them. Stillvio (talk) 12:07, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

They are still allegations as nothing have been proven in a court of law. Let's leave it as "allegations" for now - anything else seems to border on a WP:BLP violation. I'd rather err on the side of caution in this case. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 12:56, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's still worth mentioning that he confessed, in addition to being accused. Stillvio (talk) 22:48, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you are not going to say what he did...or what he admitted to ... other than lump it all together under the general category of "sex abuse" ...then it is very misleading. Sex abuse could range from forced kissing that made people uncomfortable...all the way to intercourse. It is a label that makes situations less clear, not more clear.

What is the claim? What is the admission? How serious is it? These are not idle questions. And while all such situations are serious, some are more serious than others. CHESSPRIDE204.186.81.238 (talk) 18:13, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Collins (Actor) to Stephen Collins (actor)

Is there a reason, the actor is capitalized in the article title? CamdenEric (talk) 13:43, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just a typo. It's in the works toward getting remedied. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 13:54, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Great. CamdenEric (talk) 14:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

mentioning allegations in the lead paragraph

Although a number of the recent IP edits here have been clear vandalism, it does seem like Collins' confessing to sexually abusing children probably belongs in the lead paragraph. Would anyone object to adding: "In 2014, Collins admitted he had "inappropriate sexual conduct with three female minors" in 1973, 1982, and 1994" to the last sentence of the lead? Or something else along those lines? At this point, it seems unlikely that this will stop being a central component of his bio, so it doesn't make sense to leave it at the bottom of the page. Nblund^talk 18:10, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]