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I'm moving this article to WNWO in order to merge it with soon-to-be-edited information about the television station, an NBC affiliate in Toledo, Ohio. -- SwissCelt 02:55, 27 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bit late on this one, but this article needs to stay at WNWO-TV as those are the FCC assigned call letters. See WP:NC#Broadcasting for more info. —A 07:48, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, but I should say in my defense that at the time of the move (July, 2005) the article was at WNWO Tower, and dealt only with the structure that housed the broadcasting antenna. So the move wasn't from WNWO to WNWO-TV and back to WNWO, but from WNWO Tower to WNWO (as of July, 2005) to WNWO-TV (as of December, 2005). I agree that the article should remain at WNWO-TV, as that is now the standard. (I'm going to check for double redirects now, while I'm at it.) -- SwissCelt 02:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good, I'm glad some people understand the reason behind having a naming convention. —A 02:24, 3 February 2006 (UTC)==Fair use rationale for Image:24now.jpg==[reply]

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newscaster?

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 What happened to Shenikwa Stratford?  Does anyone know where she is?  I sure miss her?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.241.141.189 (talk) 21:47, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unreferenced lists of former employees

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GA Review

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Passed. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 03:29, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This review is transcluded from Talk:WNWO-TV/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 02:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Rollinginhisgrave (talk · contribs) 17:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll start this review over the next few days. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 17:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General comments

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As this is the first TV GA review I'm undertaking, I'll go about it in a more dribs and drabs style than usual; hope this is okay, it can be reviewed as I go or all at once at the end. Thanks for bringing this to GA, as you both will have heard many times. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 06:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Finishing up. Clearly exceptional article, sorry for the time the review took as I've been trying to refer back to previous GA reviews of your work to get insight into possible fixes. Some questions/quibbles below, size of lede and some questions about ref #63 are all that are outstanding. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 02:47, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou Sammi, sorry this was a bit protracted and nitpicky at times. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 03:28, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prose/content

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Lede

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  • The lede is a too long, it should be around 2-3 paragraphs for the article's word count. I'll leave looking at this until the end since it'll be trimmed (unless there's a good reason I'm missing) Magenta clockclock

WDHO-TV

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  • and consequent shifts in multiple alignments: What are alignments?
  • which reimbursed the two firms a total of $17,200 in expenses incurred in their applicants -> which reimbursed the two firms $17,200 for expenses incurred in their applications ? I might be misunderstanding
    • Nope
  • on the air idiom. I'm not sure if there's a better alternative, although I'm sure "broadcast" would feature somewhere within.
    • This phrasing is so common that it remains encyclopedic, in my estimation.
I agree. I do have more of a concern with WNWO's newscasts finally found something of a stride
  • at the same time deferring -> and to defer
  • In 1971, Overmyer pledged the stock of WDHO's license subsidiary What is the licence subsidiary?
    • Reworded
  • and sought control present tense?
    • You're misreading the sentence; it's right. Here it is without the big appositive: FNBB then sued Overmyer on May 7, 1974, ... and sought control of 249 shares.
I did see that reading. The issue I had was the "and" implies distinction they didn't sue them and seek control, they sued them to seek control. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 22:20, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The first bankruptcy proceeding for WDHO was dismissed in 1980; the same day the SDNY denied an appeal by Overmyer, on February 6, 1981, WDHO filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy again, this time in Cleveland, Ohio. Too wordy
  • which regarded the takeover as proper and part of their debt collection This feels like repetition and obvious given we already know they sued for control of shares as collateral for defunct loans.
  • FNBB sold WDHO to Toledo Television Investors, Ltd. (TTI) for $19.6 million in June 1985;[55] TTI was owned by I. Martin Pompadur and Ralph Becker, both of New York. Is this semicolon replacing a conjunction?
I think that would reduce ambiguity. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 03:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done — also handled the "stride" item. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

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  • Ref #3 Green tickY
  • Ref #22 Green tickY
  • Ref #25: Can you attach a quote supporting the $5-6 million figure?
It's not in there at all. Removing that figure and revising the citation to cover another appropriate page. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:27, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref #51 Green tickY
  • Ref #63 Magenta clockclock
This contradicts #22 as it says the double-wide was not repossessed.
It's not clear in the source if the cheering was literal or figurative.
Really odd contradiction on the first one. I can't really change the second given what was said by the source. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:27, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref #76 Green tickY
  • Ref #80 Green tickY
  • Ref #112 Green tickY
  • Ref #118 Green tickY

Other

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  • Stable Green tickY
  • NPOV Green tickY
  • Images Green tickY: update the purpose of use for 2011-2014 file
  • OR Green tickY
  • COPYVIO Earwig 23.7%, mainly long names of committees Green tickY
  • CRIT 3: Broad, not too detailed.

Suggestions

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Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 06:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 15:46, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk) and Nathan Obral (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 704 past nominations.

Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good – the only thing is I believe there needs to be a citation directly after the sentences assignment editor Matt Zaleski later told The Blade, "That's when my reaction was, 'My God, I've got a front-row seat to a train wreck.'" and During this time, the news department operated out of a leased double-wide trailer parked next to the studio building, which continued for three years (from 1977 to 1980). as they're the hooks. Otherwise fine. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:49, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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