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Hello, I'm Mako001. I wanted to let you know that I removed one or more external links you added to Raiffeisen Bank (Ukraine) because they seemed inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page or take a look at our guidelines about links. Thank you. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 08:08, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymous users from this IP address have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for adding spam links. Persistent spammers will have their websites blacklisted from Wikipedia and potentially penalized by search engines.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:54, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Please explain why my links were considered spam?

I want to abide by the wikipedia rules. There was no malicious intent. I'm not going to spam.

Inserted information related to the companies on which I edited the pages.

I look at wikipedia and pasted links like other information sites. But for some reason, I got blocked and deleted, and their links continue to be on the pages. And many more unformed ones, such as anchorless links. But mine was considered spam, and they continue to be on the pages. For example, on the page of Ukrtelecom.

If I inserted links in the wrong place, then I apologize and explain what and where is not correct.

A few questions for you:

1) Why are my links spam?

2) There are no commerce and information sites in the links, why is this spam?

3) Why then do other such links to informational sites remain, but mine was blocked? For example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrtelecom https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instituto_Polit %C3%A9cnico_de_Kiev_%C3%8Dgor_Sikorski#Historia

On the pages of my site to which I put links, information refers to companies. And I also found pages on Wikipedia pages where links to similar databases like mine are on the pages, but for some reason mine is deleted.

I certainly don't agree with the block and the spamming confession.

I would understand if I put links to commerce or to left articles and pages. But that's not the case. I repeat on the pages that I put links they corresponded to the pages on Wikipedia and there is information about the owners, court decisions, capital, information from the tax office and documents related to the company.

Help me to understand. 109.86.177.144 (talk) 11:55, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COI, WP:SPAM, WP:EL. See also WP:OTHERSTUFF. In general, adding a link to the same site across many articles, as you did, is inappropriate. You are welcome to readd your links once (1) you have declared your conflict of interest, and (2) you have obtained community consensus to do so. Not until then. --Yamla (talk) 12:00, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If this is a shared IP address and you are an uninvolved editor with a registered account, you may continue to edit by logging in.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

109.86.177.144 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Good afternoon! I was blocked by IP for spam. I post links on company pages. There is a website with information about owners, beneficiaries, court decisions, equity holders, complete information about the company. This information applies to companies. Does not fall under spam. There is no commerce on the site. Please unblock. The information that she entered refers to the companies on which she edited the information and added links to the pages on the site of each company. The site opendatabot.ua and on it we store a database of information that we update by company - this is Address, EDRPOU code, owners, director, court decisions. From the pages of the companies I put a link to the corresponding pages of the company on the site on which this information was. Didn't do spam. Put links to up-to-date information on companies. Maybe somewhere I made a mistake in affixing. Or it was necessary to do it from the account. Please unblock and return links. And also please point out the mistakes that I made and that I would not allow them further in the future and contributed to editing Wikipedia.

Decline reason:

Please show where you disclosed your conflict of interest, as per WP:COI. And please show where you obtained consensus to add these links. Yamla (talk) 19:26, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

109.86.177.144 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Hello. Please cancel the block given to me. My actions were not against your rules on the site. I edited company pages. Where I inserted links to the pages of companies with information about them, about their owners, about legal decisions on companies. These are information pages. They don't sell a product or anything. They don't break the rules. Maybe I made a mistake in editing the company pages where I just inserted a link to the page in the note. But some companies do this and their links are on the pages. For example, the page Ukrtelecom there in the first note is just a link. I ask you to unblock and return the editing that I did. I did in the image and similar to how notes and links have already been made on the pages. But for some reason, other links remain, but mine was banned and removed. Again, I didn't break anything. I put links to the site with information about companies. There are no services or products for sale on these pages. And it's not against the rules.

Decline reason:

You did not do as you were requested; show us the consensus for adding your link, and disclose your conflict of interest. Since you don't seem to think that you did anything wrong, there are no grounds to remove the block. 331dot (talk) 15:56, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

You forgot to show where you disclosed your conflict of interest and where you obtained consensus to add these links. --Yamla (talk) 13:15, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the request for unlocking, I indicated a link to the page on which I saw the blocking and on which I put the link. Here it is Ukrtelecom https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ukrtelecom&oldid=1119082917

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

109.86.177.144 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

In the request for unlocking, I indicated a link to the page on which I saw the blocking and on which I put the link. Here it is Ukrtelecom https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ukrtelecom&oldid=1119082917 Please cancel the block given to me. My actions were not against your rules on the site. I edited company pages. Where I inserted links to the pages of companies with information about them, about their owners, about legal decisions on companies. These are information pages. They don't sell a product or anything. They don't break the rules. Maybe I made a mistake in editing the company pages where I just inserted a link to the page in the note. But some companies do this and their links are on the pages. For example, the page Ukrtelecom there in the first note is just a link. I ask you to unblock and return the editing that I did. I did in the image and similar to how notes and links have already been made on the pages. But for some reason, other links remain, but mine was banned and removed. Again, I didn't break anything. I put links to the site with information about companies. There are no services or products for sale on these pages. And it's not against the rules.

Decline reason:

You've being told several times that you may not canvas links, regardless of what you think the merits of that site our. You're not going to be unblocked as long as you have future intentions of doing that. If you (or other accounts) continue spamming that site, the site will be blacklisted as well. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 22:05, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

You don't seem to understand what we are asking. Please link to the community discussion where you established a consensus agreement to add the link. You aren't doing this. 331dot (talk) 09:07, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please tell me how to do it? Where are these discussions? I can't edit anything anywhere. And it is nowhere to write except on this page. And that's why I'm writing here. Everywhere where I tried to write about this problem, I got an error that I had a block for supposedly spam. I don't spam though. Put links to your site with information. I wrote about this above. Help to understand please. So that I can do everything right. 109.86.177.144 (talk) 10:17, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You aren't blocked for "supposedly spam", you are blocked for actually spamming. We add sources to articles after the sentence (or part of a sentence) they confirm. The example you give at Ukrtelecom (diff), where you add the link after the title of the article, is a textbook case of REFSPAM. You've done this from August to October until the block prevented you from spamming more. ~Styyx^Talk? 11:18, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry I didn't insert the notes correctly. I understood from your message where you can not insert. Tell me how can I be unlocked? And can I return at least some of the links that were posted without violating the rules?

If possible, tell me where you can read the rules on how to insert notes and I will take this into account in further editing. Where I inserted right after the name there and henceforth I will not do so.

I realized the mistake and understood why I got the blocking. But the intent was not to breed spam. Thanks for the clarification and clear answer. 109.86.177.144 (talk) 13:01, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ответите мне?

Я хочу понять и разобраться. Помогите. Я прошу помощи и разобраться в ситуации, пишу что не понимаю и без ответа. Что я должен предоставить и какие дискусии? Дайте пожалуйста обратную связь. В прошлом сообщении я писал вопросы. 109.86.177.144 (talk) 16:20, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

109.86.177.144 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Так мне помогут разобраться в ситуации? Мне говорят что заблокировали за спам. Мне дали бан на неделю, потом другой админ мне пишет, что бан не снимется. Пишет что если я буду ставить ссылки на этот сайт в дальнейшем то меня внесут в черный список. А можно узнать причины? А то это все выглядит однобоко только. Просто я смотрю что одним ссылки ставить, даже не анкорные и на просто новостные сайты можно, а другим нельзя. Какие=то двойные стандарты. Когда прошу помощь у вас, то меня просто такое чувство что игнорируют и отписываются стандартными фразами. Я хочу помочь википедии и хочу редактировать. Но я смотрю что от администрации помощь нельзя получить, а только получается угрозы по блоку мне и сайту без обьяснения. Повторюсь еще раз ссылку ставил как все, но смотрю что одним проектам которые ссылки ставят на википедии то их можно ставить, а мои удалили и дали мне блок за спам. Хотя некоторые инфоресурсы у которых стоит намного больше ссылок чем я поставил и у них все нормально, это как? Я вот это не понимаю. Почему им можно, а другим нельзя? Так же мне сказали что не там ставил примечания, хорошо тут я понял ошибку. Потом последний комментарий от какого-то админа и он мне говорит что если после разблокирования ты поставишь ссылку еще раз то мы тебя внесем и сайт в черный список и все аккаунты с которых будет ставлена ссылка на этот сайт. И тут вопрос снова к вам, почему одним можно ставить ссылки на инфоресурсы и в частности такие же базы как у меня, а другим нельзя? В частности выше приводил пример с Укртелекомом и там просто в Примечании ссылки безанкоры вставлены на сайт новостной и получается им можно, а профильному сайту на котором собрана информация о компании, бенифициары, капиталы, судовые решения нельзя. Еще мне пишут что я должен кинуть ссылку или еще что на дискуссию по решению проблемы. Я пишу что не понимаю что это и где это должно быть и решить, мне отвечают снова что я ничего не понимаю и пишут снова про тоже. Я не понимаю вам что сложно помочь разобраться человеку? Я же вроде пытаюсь разобраться и понять всё. Но меня просто куда-то кидают без обьяснений.

Decline reason:

Procedural decline; this is en.wiki and you are expected to communicate in English here. I'll note that the block will expire in a very few hours and I hope (sincerely hope) that you don't resume the same behaviour once your block expires. Yamla (talk) 11:15, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This is English Wikipedia. Please communicate in English if you expect others to respond. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 22:36, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So can you help me sort out the situation? They tell me they blocked me for spam. They gave me a ban for a week, then another admin writes to me that the ban will not be removed. Writes that if I put links to this site in the future, I will be blacklisted. Can you find out the reasons? And then it all looks one-sided only. It’s just that I see that it’s possible to put one link, not even an anchor one, and to just news sites, but it’s impossible for others. Some double standards.

When I ask for help from you, I just get the feeling that they are ignoring and unsubscribing with standard phrases. I want to help wikipedia and want to edit. But I see that it is impossible to get help from the administration, but only threats are received on the block to me and the site without explanation. I repeat once again I put the link like everyone else, but I see that for some projects that put links on Wikipedia, they can be put, but mine was deleted and they gave me a block for spam. Although some information resources have much more links than I have set and everything is fine with them, how is it? I don't understand this. Why can they do it and others can't? They also told me that I put notes in the wrong place, well here I understood the mistake. Then the last comment from some admin and he tells me that if after unblocking you put the link again, then we will blacklist you and the site and all accounts from which the link to this site will be put. And here the question is again for you, why can one put links to information resources and, in particular, the same databases as mine, while others cannot? In particular, he gave an example with Ukrtelecom above and there, simply in the Note, the anchorless links are inserted on the news site and it turns out that they can, but the profile site that collects information about the company, beneficiaries, capital, court decisions is impossible.

They also write to me that I should throw a link or something else to the discussion on solving the problem. I write that I don’t understand what it is and where it should be and decide, they answer me again that I don’t understand anything and write again about it too. I do not understand you that it is difficult to help a person understand? I'm trying to figure it out and understand everything. But they just throw me somewhere without explanation. 109.86.177.144 (talk) 08:22, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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