User talk:Bas1982xx
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May 2020
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Hi Bas1982xx! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor at Pete Best that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia — it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Sara Ballingall
[edit]I notice you have made several edits to the article about Sara Ballingall, and have confirmed yourself to be an individual involved in a court case regarding her. Per our policies on biographies of living people and conflicts of interests, it's strongly advised you do not edit Ballingall's article, especially because of the nature of the situation. Your contributions to the article contain a noticeable bias, and do not cite anything that actually supports the claims made. It only cites laws that were (presumably) cited in the case, and contains blatant, unverified denial of Ballingall's claims, which do not fall in line with the encyclopedic tone required for Wikipedia pages. By your own admission, the media didn't report on anything to do with the case after the brief spout of coverage in the early 2000s; this, along with what is mentioned above, is why this cannot be included in the article. Wikipedia generally forbids unverified claims that may be libelous, especially about living people, and because what you mentioned in your edits did not receive any media coverage to verify it with, it absolutely has no place in the article. ToQ100gou (talk) 13:12, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
Sara Ballingall section has been removed; apology
[edit]The entire section to do with the case (including material you might have an issue with) has been removed and is being reviewed by another user. As an editor here, I apologize if you were upset about the way the section was written. All Wikipedia editors have a responsibility to ensure that the material posted here is not defamatory. BUT, we do have conflict of interest guidelines here that don't recommend anybody involved with the subject of an article editing said article. This goes for any situation, whether an article subject is editing their own article or someone heavily involved with them. If you have any problems with material that you believe to be libelous or defamatory, you can email the address on this page with details of the article and the error. The way the section was written (before your edits) definitely wasn't that great. Completely disregard the above warning. ToQ100gou (talk) 05:55, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
- I note your reply.
- I am accurate with any of my edits and try to do things the wiki way.
- Note I have 2 university degrees and am a accountant.
- On this matter there were some one sided media reporting and incorrect citations & omissions at the time 20 years ago merely parroting allegations, not facts. The case was dismissed in June 2004 when Ballingall refused to give evidence. I can give you a copy the court decision if you want. Police at the time fiddled court processes so the dates when I got favorable rulings no media was there.
- This dismissal arose because a stupid little cop rushed in without checking the facts on the basis of an unsworn statement when the matter began in 1999. Ballingall had made false statements arising for other people telling her the wrong thing and this is why she did not want to give evidence. I previously attempted let her off by raising a legal point.
- In 2000 a Magistrate agreed with that legal point that the offence did not apply to persons outside this State and found the charge illegal. Police appealed and won on an issue that later would have been overturned but the Judge's order were overruled in 2003 on another issue by the Court of Appeal (3 Judges) because of the way the Magistrate's decision was done (on the basis of an agreed set of allegations being the police best case and not actual facts which my lawyer organized to save video link costs) was not a satisfactory form of evidence for the higher courts to make a ruling on so it was remitted back for that purpose. The effect of their order was that the Judge's decision was neutralised. So on the re-run of this Ballingall refused to front up via video link on legal advice. A very complex set of facts and all shouldnt have happened.
- I request you make a note for this page not allowing any reference to this again because of that bad reporting it not only upsets me, but also her. And remove any links to such reports from this page. She is embarrassed and doesnt want people pestering her.
- Note - allowing this to be mentioned (ie any false or misleading reports) - including an old media reports & links - also makes Wikipedia or anyone else subject to current local defamation law irrespective of the fact of being based outside Australia. This rule applies to ANY false or misleading info about anyone on any topic. So I suggest Wiki be real careful about people making edits on crime or civil legal matters citing one media report about people slanted a particular way and not others or where there is followup. Often with court matters there is a initial report then you do not hear about the what really happens thereafter in the end. Bas1982xx (talk) 18:41, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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