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Hello and thank you for contacting me. Unfortunately, I usually don't get involved in disputes regarding articles where I lack expertise. My suggestion is create a section on the article's talk page about the disputed edits or disruptive behavior by other users. If they refuse to talk about it then it's legitimate to warn them (use the "Not adhering to NPOV" templates that you will find here) and have them blocked if they still persist in making unilateral, disputed changes without discussing them. Just warn and revert, and report if they keep inserting their changes after receiving a set of warnings. I hope this helps. Regards,--Húsönd 19:13, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please brief me on the user and with what sort of edits is he disrupting the article? I'll have a closer look.--Húsönd 20:15, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I still can't find enough proof that a particular user is disrupting the article with POV. I've protected the article due to edit war anyway. It would be convenient if some editors agree on the talk page that a specific user is being disruptive. That would certainly help counter disruption after the article is unprotected.--Húsönd 23:11, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Wassail (World of Darkness)

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Why the hell do I have my own personal attack section on that talk page? Oh well, I have removed it. Everything you said EvanCarroll did first (pay attention to where the URL goes) and he has voice on the #peragro channel on Freenode. I would be inclined to believe the other way around. And no I do not have a conflict of interest. I just play the game, and I asked on irc://irc.freenode.net/wikipedia back in June if playing a game implies that you have a conflict of interest, and the consensus was that I do not. Tuxide (talk) of WikiProject Retailing 07:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Metal Storm

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After briefly spot checking your contributions, I "repaired" your re-directs away from Metal Storm, assuming you meant the video game. WurmWoodeT 22:59, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Elder Sign

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Because you don't add citation, you just add external link. L-Zwei (talk) 17:35, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just make proper citation instead of simply lazily linking outside. Don't you see those Notes and References section? L-Zwei (talk) 17:05, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Right, I'm lazy-ass who aren't very friendly. But consider that one who add it made half-ass edit by simply link outside (which may even violate WP:SPAM) instead of made proper citation, I don't see why I should put any more effort. Look, if you want to re-add it then made proper citation, else just leave it. Whatever, I won't do it to you. L-Zwei (talk) 10:30, 15 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Re: Kansas City

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I would suggest putting it up on the talk page. Give it a week or so. If there isn't any discussion, then just do it. You could also propose a move here. I fixed 800 disambiguation links to the page so this is a pretty major change. --User:Woohookitty Disamming fool! 04:31, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That last comment made me laugh hard. Hey. At least you know. :-D In the end, I don't have any problem with the change really. I just get concerned when massive changes like that are made without direct discussion. The old page was a bit troublesome as it was a semi-disam page. --User:Woohookitty Disamming fool! 04:45, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:INVOLVED Darker Dreams (talk) 06:35, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:I am not an admin for pete's sake Jytdog (talk) 06:55, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You've dropped two "admin action" warnings on my talk page in very short succession. I suppose a better comment would be "pot:kettle=black," or just "that's a bit of an odd call given you've got more reverts on Energy (esotericism) than I do, and as many today" but... I assumed you'd get the point. Darker Dreams (talk) 07:01, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Your lack of WP:CLUE is becoming more and more apparent. Anyone can give anyone these notifications Jytdog (talk) 07:02, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And I can't believe you are creating all this drama to try to force websites like "whitemagicway.com" and "sacredspaces.com" into WP. Mind blowing Jytdog (talk) 07:04, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
WP:IUC WP:AGF I don't care about those sources. I care that you're so focused on those sources that you can't figure out how to just WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM. Darker Dreams (talk) 07:10, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That is what you have been edit warring in two different articles to retain. The problem that needs fixing is your bad choice of refs - this is what both nikkimaria and i have been telling you, and you are not hearing it. I won't respond again here. If you want to discuss something at an article talk page, that would be that. Jytdog (talk) 07:12, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No, I was pushing back in place of power to retain the wiki references to things like Charmed which I haven't had a chance to dig out the relevant episode or how to format the citation. Actually, I didn't even look at which citations got scooped up in someone else's edit [1], who was hammering away at source quality, and you promptly reverted out of hand. Darker Dreams (talk) 07:22, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion at Earth mysteries

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I've started a new discussion at Talk:Earth mysteries#Relevancy of deleted Place of power article about whether we have the best title (and content) for the topic. I figured you might be interested in working on the other article. —DIYeditor (talk) 10:14, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Cochranites

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Hi Darker Dreams, according to MOS:DABBLUE, disambiguation page entries should have one blue link to the most relevant article. That is how I edited Cochranites. I moved Cochranianism to the See also section because that is where similar titles are typically listed (MOS:DABSEEALSO). Leschnei (talk) 13:59, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I moved all of the bluelinks to entry starts to standardize them, removed the extra blue link without pushing the main link into a redirect, and restored your fix to a mainpage link caught up the previous redirect. My reading of MOS:DABSEEALSO looks like all three entries would technically fall under the See Also criteria. Darker Dreams (talk) 04:39, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me - thanks! Leschnei (talk) 11:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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take the dispute to Talk please. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:42, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Listing move discussion at Wikiprojects

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Hi, do you know if RMs should be listed at wikiprojects, or how to do that, or if a bot handles this? Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 21:10, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination of Witchcraft (traditional) for deletion

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Finding a home for your content

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Hi, I think you're going about this all wrong (i.e. lots of new pages), but your intentions and your content are good. I've actually just taken all of the material that you placed at Witchcraft (traditional) and split it between Cunning folk, which is where the discussion of European folk healers/mystic individuals belongs, and Witch (word), which is where the evolution of the label of "witch" is best explained. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:53, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Darker Dreams, we also don't need this: Template:Witchcraft sidebar. As I said on that talk page, you've lumped together cunning people and traditional knowledge with witches, who those societies define as those who harm their own communities. It duplicates templates we already have. 00:28, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

You are edit-warring

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I realize you are very attached to the Neopagan redefinition of "witch" as someone who heals, and the debunked witch-cult theory. You claim you are not here to right great wrongs but your edit history shows otherwise:

I know this is hard for you to hear, as you have cast me as an enemy, but I know many people who believe as you do. I have a great deal of compassion for this view. BUT, I am asking you to have compassion for the Indigenous, African, Irish and Scottish cultures for whose traditional people "witch" and "witchcraft" is the opposite of the healers and healing metaphysical work. I'm sorry if you are unfamiliar with these communities, but they/we don't usually trust people who call themselves witches, both because of the "harming their own communities" meaning, but also because American and UK Neopagans are known to culturally appropriate from these very cultures. It's an issue that is very much under the banner of "contemporary witchcraft" and is a huge reason why "contemporary witchcraft" is not synonymous with "neopagan witchcraft". Please, try to understand this as a global, and not just white people, issue. I have raised this multiple times now and you, and a few other editors, are blatantly ignoring it. This, to me, is the major systemic bias issue. Which is why I re-added the systemic bias flag, which you reverted, along with returning a wholly inappropriate link to Indigenous traditional knowledge which is not "witchcraft.[2] Why did you remove it? - CorbieVreccan 23:47, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I know this is hard for you to hear, as you have cast me as an enemy - including repeatedly accusing me of bad faith in various styles and forums; I have provided, repeatedly, sources that demonstrate that "witch" has been applied to a number of categories of individuals. There is significant complexity to this issue because of several redefinitions of the term "witch," including being applied by colonialists and anthropologists based on specific white, anglo-European, colonial, Enlightenment and post-Enlightenment frameworks that sought to map a broad range of experiences and belief systems into their contemporary European experience - even when that was glaringly inappropriate.
Now, we are not supposed to be discussing these issues outside the mediation process at Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Witchcraft. Darker Dreams (talk) 23:57, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am not pinging you here to discuss article content. This is behavioural. You are edit-warring with multiple people, as is evident in your contribs. I'll add diffs, but I think you are aware of what you are doing. - CorbieVreccan 00:42, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Witchcraft sidebar

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Template:Witchcraft sidebar has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. - CorbieVreccan 00:34, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

August 2023

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Information icon Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Witchcraft (traditional). Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Calling edits made in good faith, "vandalism" is a personal attack. You've now done this twice, to two different editors, simply because you disagree with the content. [3][4]

Your edits include the blanking of sources and return of off-topic links, and you are once again edit-warring - CorbieVreccan 21:14, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit-warring again / Tendentious editing

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Waiting a bit and then hitting "undo" again is just continuing the edit war you have been warned about above, along with misleading and incivil edit summaries and blanking of sourced content that you simply don't like.[5] This is disruptive and WP:TENDENTIOUS. As has been explained, you are inserting misleading links. You don't have consensus to use Indigenous definitions for witchcraft as "traditional knowledge." We have consensus, that you have agreed to, that Indigenous cultures do not agree with your redefinition of "witchcraft" as positive magic. Stop edit warring. Your accusing others of WP:OWNy behaviour is projection. It's what you are doing. - CorbieVreccan 17:29, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Witchcraft (traditional). This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

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Request reason:

I created this page and, following its WP:AFD nomination User:CorbieVreccan immediately blanked it[6], has repeatedly made false claims regarding sources in edit statements[7][8][9][10], and elsewhere, sought to redefine the article to match definitions already covered at other pages[11], and done this all in coordination with at least one other user[12] who they have defended as "normal editing" even when the stated purpose of edits was to "undermine the whole premise of this article"[13].


I agree there is a PoV push, tendacious editing, and attempts at ownership in the entire cluster of Witchcraft articles; but it's the doing of a rogue admin who repeatedly claims consensus when no such thing is present[14][15], believes they (and those they agree with) are above the rules they wish to apply to others, and shows a willingness to weaponize systems against other editors to intimidate them.[16] - Darker Dreams (talk) 00:40, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Unblock requests containing personal attacks are not considered. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 01:15, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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@Jpgordon: please clarify which portion of this is considered a personal attack? I do not believe that I said anything substantially different than was said about me in the request resulting in my block.[17] - Darker Dreams (talk) 01:26, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Darker Dreams. To answer the question: rogue admin, believes they... are above the rules, and willingness to weaponize systems against other editors to intimidate them are all statements that seem to fall into the sphere of "personal attacks".
In general, admins won't consider unblock requests where the blocked user talks about another editor's objectionable conduct. No matter how defensible your own actions might feel, people will expect you to commit to not undertaking similar actions in the future.
I'm here because I saw your request at WP:RFAR. Wikipedia will never have balanced articles on witchcraft and magic and related topics. It is built on and bound to a completely different way of knowing, one which has historically deliberately marginalised and vilified women's natural knowledge traditions. I know a lot of witches. This just isn't the right website for this. Sorry to have to frame this with such finality, but I thought it might be kinder if you heard it from someone who understands both sides. Folly Mox (talk) 17:11, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded and with a new lead. Cast an eye and make improvements where you see problems. Skyerise (talk) 19:50, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, not sure exactly where your interests lie, but another new stub is Witchcraft in the Middle East. Skyerise (talk) 20:48, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hope that we can discuss this over a few days, and maybe involve some more editors, such as by seeking a third opinion. Please be mindful of 3RR. BestAlalch E. 14:19, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit to Witchcraft

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Hi, Darker Dreams. Did this recent edit do what you thought it would? It just adds a trailing space to a paragraph (+1), not "Undoing revert; restored sourced material." Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 10:18, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

September 2023

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Signing comments

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Hi! Could you please sign your comment [18] in the ‎Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 17#Lək̓ʷəŋən RFD discussion for clarity? Let me know if you have any questions. Skynxnex (talk) 19:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

magico-religious

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I noticed you linking the term magico-religious in many articles. What is your intention there? Are you intending on making an article on the phrase? I just redirected it to Magic and religion but if you have an article you want to make then go ahead with it. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 03:23, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to point to a discussion already underway at Talk:Bandlet_of_Righteousness#Magico-religious. Short version; I don't know. It's just getting used a lot (that redirect receives links from 85 main space articles), in some places like it's supposed to carry significant meaning, and isn't defined or explained... - Darker Dreams (talk) 03:39, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Witchcraft as shamanism

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As I'm sure you know, there are many sources which equate witchcraft in Europe with shamanism throughout the rest of the world. When shamanism is suppressed, it is nearly always called "witchcraft" in the process. Many of the "examples" of the suppression of witchcraft as malevolent originally in the Asia section were about one or another form of shamanism, but the editor who added the material simply cherry-picked the opposition without providing any background about the tradition being suppressed. I've compiled a fairly large list of sources that support this view here. It is neither a minority, fringe, or "neopagan" view. In fact, if it is not now the majority view, it is certainly the second of the prevailing theories. Skyerise (talk) 11:25, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Darker Dreams!

In the discussion at the RfD linked above (now closed as "keep"), you suggested to add link to relevant map(s) in redirect talk page to provide future context. What exactly did you have in mind? As mentioned at the RfD, there are lots of maps that may be relevant. I gave links to about a dozen there (with potential to expand that list to 100+). Do you find it necessary to link them all? Maybe it is best to just point to the RfD, and briefly explain the reasons for keeping? Renerpho (talk) 00:21, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Renerpho: I'm not suggesting that you (or anyone) needs to go hunt down all the relevant maps, but if you've already got between a dozen and 100+ that's a swath of identification someone else doesn't have to do if they decide to fix it. Identified maps should be getting collected somewhere or it's never going to get on anyone's radar as a real project or just going to be more annoying when it does. Thinking about it, a category may be better because it'd be easier to find/manage than a list on a talk page - then just link from the redirect talk page to the RfD and category. I don't know if this makes sense. - Darker Dreams (talk) 00:37, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Intermediate state has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 4 § Intermediate state until a consensus is reached. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:37, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Notice of ANI discussion

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Requested moves

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You can't directly edit Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions to post move-related comments there. That page is created on-the-fly by a bot, and changes you make to it will simply be elminated a few minutes later. To comment in an RM discussion, you go to the talk page of the page being proposed for move/rename.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  04:25, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Robertsky provided this same notification two sections above. I have made no further edits to the WP:RMC page. I will address relocating those comments if I have time. - Darker Dreams (talk) 06:08, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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