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"The GOASTT" redirect

Hello! I removed {{R from misspelling}} from The GOASTT, as, unless I'm an idiot, does seem to be an alternate name and not a misspelling of an alternate name (similarly to GOASTT), and such is used by many sources online. Please feel free to correct me if I'm missing something there! ~ Eejit43 (talk) 02:04, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

They seem to more commonly go alternately by "GOASTT" without the "The" so in that case it's more of an alternate to their common alternate, but I didn't find a suitable {{R from...}} for that 😉 I'm sure it's fine how it is now; thanks for getting in touch :) Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 02:15, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

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Robert Lanza

Hello!

Regarding that pending edits on Robert Lanza, I reverted it as it removed a bunch of negative viewed comments, and added positive ones, some being unreferenced. A couple were also poorly formatted and worded, such as he forces a reappraisal of this hoary epistemological dilemmaLanza subsequently published several books that further.. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 14:25, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Yep; I am entirely in error and reverted myself almost immediately when I saw the result. I often find diffs confusing and simply read it wrong .. again. I will say, though what you do with it is up to you, that changes to articles being unexplained is not a good enough reason to revert work, and explaining (the irony is not lost) why those changes were bad would be more helpful. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 14:33, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

No worries! Yeah that diff took me a while to fully understand!

I try not to put too much information in summaries, as I feel that just clogs it up. Instead I like to directly leave messages if needed.

Thanks! ~ Eejit43 (talk) 15:32, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Module

I like what you are doing so i don't want to rain on your parade in public in case it is just an example. But FYI just in case: MOS:FOREIGNITALIC says that e.g. Confédération Mondiale des Activités Subaquatiques must use {{Lang}}, not italic markup. Which is partly why is asked if a lang= could be added. Best wishes. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 23:50, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

I really do appreciate your kindness, but I'm fine with being called out in public 🙂 I've integrated {{lang}} handling in Module:GetShortDescription but haven't finished either it or Module:Annotated link yet. In fact I only just started annotatedLink. I shared the fact of their existence to get feedback, so let's carry this on back at annotated link's talk. I just stopped to eat and watch a movie; the pizza was good, but Cell (film) was meh. Fun fact; {{lang-fr}} and {{lang|fr}} make different outputs, but the former handles LTR/RTL text by default e.g. French: Confédération Mondiale des Activités Subaquatiques Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 00:18, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello! I didn't mean to ask for any additional functionality when I pinged you in the GAN thread; it was just a friendly note of a potential use-case. The module looks great to me, thanks for working on it! Olivaw-Daneel (talk) 18:03, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

No worries; I appreciated the ping 🙂 I'm happy to assist getting things done, and as stated, if that means extra functionality, that's fine. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 18:24, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls

Are you finished with your experiment? Can we remove your pages from Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls? Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 16:19, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

@Plastikspork: not so much an experiment as examples of possible misuse existing to support performing tests on modules and templates. By "remove from the category"; do you mean delete or alter the pages? I will need to hardcode the tests some other way in that case. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 16:27, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

I have requested deletion for both pages and they'll be no more bother; I will find another way. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 17:14, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 20:53, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Re your AIV report

I blocked 110.164.139.93 for one month after reviewing all their edits. If there were specific edits you believe ought to be revdel'd, feel free to send me (or another admin) an email, though at first glance I don't see anything that transcends "ordinary" vandalism. ^Complex/_Rational 03:10, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the attention and heads up 😊 I sent the email already. It's in their recent history on Talk:Tsunami. I leave it up to you. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 03:16, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

I haven't received anything, though after another look, I don't think further action is necessary here. ^Complex/_Rational 03:52, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Maybe I've been marked as spam 😉 I don't feel okay about repeating the specifics but I doubt anyone building or researching the encyclopedia wants or needs to read the content of two of the three edits at that page. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 03:58, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

In general, revdel is reserved for serious BLP violations, slurs, threats, links to virus-infested websites, etc., where there's a real risk of harm if it's left visible. There's plenty of vandalism that nobody wants/needs to read which gets banished to the page history but doesn't need revdel. I do think it's quite likely that different admins have slightly different thresholds outside the "obvious" cases, however. ^Complex/_Rational 14:57, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Understood; since it looks like it won't be revdeled; I feel that "fuck your siblings" and "dick your mother" are the sort of content that makes no useful contribution to an article's history and expunging that kind of thing can only serve to improve the project. Until the next time; have a great day 😊 Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 15:06, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello

I just wanted to drop you a note to let you know that you are banned from posting comments on my talk page, unless, of course, you are required to by Wikipedia policy. If you are required to post a notice on my talk page, please clearly indicate in the edit summary what policy you are doing so under. Any other posted comments will be deleted without being read.

Please note that this ban also applies to pinging me.

Also, if you email me to get around this ban, I will assume that you are agreeing in advance that the entire contents of the e-mail can be released to anyone I wish to.

Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:07, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Template:Annotated link

Belated thanks for your work on the template, especially for the very simple and effective fix for the case issue. I'm afraid most of the rest of your changes go over my head, but I trust they're also valuable. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 16:37, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you 😊 It probably does look quite complicated now, but most of the extended functionality will rarely be needed and can be safely ignored; the vast majority of the extra parameters are for foreign language handling. At the module level; most of the changes are for a significant improvement in accuracy and robustness against edge cases and misuse. I'm nearly ready to rollout a refactoring of the modules after a lot of study of the real world use cases via the many maintenance categories; currently triple checking everything before triple checking everything again 😉 Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 16:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

That barnstar design thing

Hi, Fred, thanks for your feedback at the barnstar request. Could I prevail upon your good skills and good humor for one more thing? It concerns my last comment there, but basically, it's this: I liked Jerium's last change at File:Scripting Barnstar.png (as viewable at {{The Scripting Barnstar}}, with that little screen monitor lower right. I wanted to try to replace the '>_' with a snippet of code, so I tried with "Paint", and came up with File:Scripting Barnstar-2.jpg (better viewable at {{The Scripting Barnstar/sandbox}}). But I'm pretty bad at it; I managed to get the code snippet in there, but the old characters are still there, plus it flipped the background to black, which was unintentional. If you have the bandwidth, can you have a look, and try a fix to Barnstar-2 (or just start over, using Barnstar-1 as a base) and replace Barnstar-2 with what I was trying to do? Which is basically identical to Barnstar-1, except with that little code snippet in there, replacing the '>_'. Feel free to make any other changes to the image that you think make sense. Thanks ,Mathglot (talk) 05:15, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

I'm not really that good with image editing. Those examples I offered were just cobbled together out of tricky markup and the original barnstar image. I'll give it a go but can't promise anything. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 13:45, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Yeah; I dunno how to do that. It would take me a very long time to try and match the grey gradients to cover the white parts up. You'll need a more proficient image editing person than me. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 14:08, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

K, thanks. Mathglot (talk) 09:38, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Spotting uncommon white-space characters

Hi, Fred! Thank you for your cleanup efforts, such as this edit. I've seen editors making that fix before, and it's made me wonder: How does one detect such characters? I can't spot the difference in the traditional source editor. — voidxor 16:47, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi. It's one effect of searching for inappropriate unicode characters in short descriptions; an issue raised at Project talk:Short description § Are unicode symbols appropriate in Short descriptions?. The basics are that I'm using the insource:regular expression ability of the site search; more details at Help:Searching § Parameters; if non-standard whitespace characters are where standard spaces should be, they're added to the search results. Please ask if you need more details or explanation 😊 Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 17:19, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Keep up editing good! Babysharkboss2 (talk) 16:28, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks 😊 Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 17:11, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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Can I please use your logout confirmation userscript's code for my userscript? - Master of Hedgehogs ^{(converse) (hate that hedgehog!)} 22:35, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

You are free and welcome to use any of my contributions to Wikipedia as you please :)

Let me know if you need help with whatever you're doing. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 22:46, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Okay, thank you! - Master of Hedgehogs ^{(converse) (hate that hedgehog!)} 22:48, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Strictly speaking, I guess everything I contribute is covered by Wikipedia's standard licencing, which is the CC BY-SA 4.0 License, so that applies *shrugs* Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 22:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Buke & Gase

Hello. If possible please change the short description on Buke & Gase to be very brief. The current one is about twice as long as what fits in the search box. Although I do think that an alternative spelling is not a candidate for a possible article on the same topic. Wizmut (talk) 02:28, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Could you not understand that it is also the title of a film? Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 12:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

There would probably be "(film)" added to such an article title. My guess. Wizmut (talk) 15:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Special:WantedTemplates

I noticed a new "transclusions of non-existing templates" pop-up pointing to User:Fred Gandt/fixDodgyShortDescriptions.js. Would it be possible for you to add

// <nowiki>

at the top of that page, and

// </nowiki>

at the bottom of the page? This will prevent the backend software from thinking that the page is transcluding Template:Short description" + " . Since the <nowiki>...</nowiki> is inside of javascript comments, it won't impact the functionality of the script. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 15:34, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Sorry about that; did it work? Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 16:41, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Yup, or at least it looks like it did. Let me know if I cause any more bother :) Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 16:56, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

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Hayat Tahrir al-Sham page

Hi Fred

You asked me to respond to your message via your talk page. You left me a slightly odd message. I recently edited the above page, making three edits. One was a slightly incorrect tense - 'has been designated' vs 'was designated' - which is a common error by non-native speakers. The second was the use of the definite article when describing a UNSCR, which is again grammatical. The third was adjusting a link which seemed to be misdirected - the word 'terrorist' should link to the general terrorism page, rather than to Islamic terrorism speciifcally.

You said 'Your edit can be considered to have changed the meaning conveyed'. Please could you explain how? Thanks. MosheDov1 (talk) 17:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi. The "has been" to "was" is my primary concern being summarized as a "grammatical [fix]", since it could be considered a change in meaning i.e. "was" could be considered a prior determination as opposed to "has been" being considered a current determination previously established. We must take very special care with these subtleties, and as such the edit should be more clearly summarized and not marked as minor, as some watchers may not be notified of minor edits. The use of "the" should also be reviewed, as MOS:THEINST shows by example that "the United Nations Security Council Resolution 2254" is (or was) correct according to our Manual of Style, as well as common English usage. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 17:41, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

The "the" might not be as I thought, since the "United Nations Security Council Resolution 2254" could be considered a thing itself rather than a thing by an institution; it kinda depends on the reader as to which they might take it as. While our MoS has no absolute and specific guidance in this regard, we can leave it to WP:CONSENSUS to determine. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 17:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

I think your second comment is more on the mark. A resolution of the UNSC is not an institution, it's a resolution.

On the other point, there is no distinction in international law along the lines you suggest between current and prior determinations. UNSCRs do not lapse. My change was purely grammatical: It's simply poorer syntax to use 'has been' for a specific past event. MosheDov1 (talk) 08:54, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

The change could be considered by some as a change the meaning. It is therefore essential that the summary is not marked as minor and the summary should more accurately reflect that possibility. Whether you believe your edit to be purely grammatical or not, this is a larger community of editors, any of whom could reasonably believe differently, and effectively hiding the change as minor with a generic summary is shifty. I am asking you simply to be more considerate of your fellow editors, especially on sensitive articles. That is all. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 09:16, 25 December 2024 (UTC)